C63 507 204 Does it come Standard with LSD
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C63 507 204 Does it come Standard with LSD
Folks, new here and looking at purchasing a 507 that was Australian delivered in 2014. I've read other threads here on this topic but they do not exactly answer the question below, hence the thread.
Seems like lot's of conflicting information re Electronic Limited Slip Differential vs Option code 471 being described as a LSD and also a Rear Axle Differential Lock. I believe these are 2 different things which are being confused. I've seen a MB brochure on this forum for the 507 which also calls the 471 a Limited Slip Differential and no mention of a the word "Lock".
A datapoint from a different 507 for sale. I have looked at the datasheet for a 2015 507 with option 471 and it is called on the datasheet a "ÄMG Rear Axle Differential Lock" which conflicts with the Brochure terminology.
My Question is, Would a Australian delivered 507 from 2014 come standard with a electronic limited slip diff. ie When It does NOT have Option code 471? ie what's the standard?
Seems like lot's of conflicting information re Electronic Limited Slip Differential vs Option code 471 being described as a LSD and also a Rear Axle Differential Lock. I believe these are 2 different things which are being confused. I've seen a MB brochure on this forum for the 507 which also calls the 471 a Limited Slip Differential and no mention of a the word "Lock".
A datapoint from a different 507 for sale. I have looked at the datasheet for a 2015 507 with option 471 and it is called on the datasheet a "ÄMG Rear Axle Differential Lock" which conflicts with the Brochure terminology.
My Question is, Would a Australian delivered 507 from 2014 come standard with a electronic limited slip diff. ie When It does NOT have Option code 471? ie what's the standard?
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The W204 C63 never came with an electronic limited slip differential. The base or standard differential is an open differential. Option 471 is the limited slip differential and if the option is not listed on the datacard the car has an open differential.
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Hi Mort, thanks for the reply. What I'm seeing via the VIN Decoder for Option 471 is "AMG Rear Axle Differential Lock". This is straight off the Mercedes VIN Decoder. Is this what you'd expect to see as the description for Option 471?
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Yes it's MB code for their standard LSD.
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Folks, I really need to dig into this a bit more, because right now, what I'm seeing, there are 2 very different position s on this.
1) Limited Slip Diff
option 2
2) Option 471, AMG Rear axle Locked Diff.
The marketing literature calls it option 1. Is Option 1 standard on the 507's?
1) Limited Slip Diff
option 2
2) Option 471, AMG Rear axle Locked Diff.
The marketing literature calls it option 1. Is Option 1 standard on the 507's?
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LSD was not standard equipment. I have a 2015 507 that came without LSD. I wouldn't base buying a car on having factory LSD or not since there are good aftermarket options. People like their Wavetracs and I like my OS Giken.
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Why all the drama. No, LSDs we’re absolutely not standard equipment. It either has 471 listed on the build sheet or it doesn’t. If for whatever reason you don’t actually believe that, your only other options would be to ask the seller to confirm either way, or go look at the car yourself, get it up in the air and spin a rear wheel. That’s it. Case closed.
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Depends on the market. AFAIK LSDs were always optional equipment on US cars. European cars received the LSD as standard. In Canada it was part of the optional performance package but not offered as a stand-alone option.
Regardless of whether it was standard or optional, if it left the factory with the LSD it has the 471 code on the build sheet. Obviously some cars may have an aftermarket unit installed, but the only way to check / verify short of disassembling the diff would be to do what @BLKROKT suggested next time your car is up on a hoist. Start the car with the key (not the button - otherwise you won't be able to shut it off in neutral), shut it off in neutral and spin one rear wheel by hand. If the other rear wheel rotates in the same direction, it has an LSD. If it rotates in the opposite direction, it doesn't.
Regardless of whether it was standard or optional, if it left the factory with the LSD it has the 471 code on the build sheet. Obviously some cars may have an aftermarket unit installed, but the only way to check / verify short of disassembling the diff would be to do what @BLKROKT suggested next time your car is up on a hoist. Start the car with the key (not the button - otherwise you won't be able to shut it off in neutral), shut it off in neutral and spin one rear wheel by hand. If the other rear wheel rotates in the same direction, it has an LSD. If it rotates in the opposite direction, it doesn't.
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Are you in the UK? Looks like you got the same deal as the Americans. I don't think you could buy a C63 without an LSD in Germany.
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My 13' coupe has the factory 471 option, and it was delivered to the Italian market before ending up in my country. From what I understood when looking around for a C63, the LSD was an option item, but probably came standard on the BS I would imagine
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Depends on the market. AFAIK LSDs were always optional equipment on US cars. European cars received the LSD as standard. In Canada it was part of the optional performance package but not offered as a stand-alone option.
Regardless of whether it was standard or optional, if it left the factory with the LSD it has the 471 code on the build sheet. Obviously some cars may have an aftermarket unit installed, but the only way to check / verify short of disassembling the diff would be to do what @BLKROKT suggested next time your car is up on a hoist. Start the car with the key (not the button - otherwise you won't be able to shut it off in neutral), shut it off in neutral and spin one rear wheel by hand. If the other rear wheel rotates in the same direction, it has an LSD. If it rotates in the opposite direction, it doesn't.
Regardless of whether it was standard or optional, if it left the factory with the LSD it has the 471 code on the build sheet. Obviously some cars may have an aftermarket unit installed, but the only way to check / verify short of disassembling the diff would be to do what @BLKROKT suggested next time your car is up on a hoist. Start the car with the key (not the button - otherwise you won't be able to shut it off in neutral), shut it off in neutral and spin one rear wheel by hand. If the other rear wheel rotates in the same direction, it has an LSD. If it rotates in the opposite direction, it doesn't.
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A differential can be one of three types - an OPEN diff (0% lock), a LIMITED SLIP diff (variable lock) - regardless of the type and how it internally functions in order to achieve the torque transfer - and a WELDED diff (100% lock) that always keeps both of the driven wheels spinning at the same rate. Whatever it is that you understand by MLD is a type of a limited slip diff in the same way that beef is a type of meat.
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You are way too confused kid. An MLD is like an LSD but not the same... that's like saying autumn is like fall but not the same or that twelve is like a dozen but not the same. I am surprised that you don't know about this after joining this forum.
A differential can be one of three types - an OPEN diff (0% lock), a LIMITED SLIP diff (variable lock) - regardless of the type and how it internally functions in order to achieve the torque transfer - and a WELDED diff (100% lock) that always keeps both of the driven wheels spinning at the same rate. Whatever it is that you understand by MLD is a type of a limited slip diff in the same way that beef is a type of meat.
A differential can be one of three types - an OPEN diff (0% lock), a LIMITED SLIP diff (variable lock) - regardless of the type and how it internally functions in order to achieve the torque transfer - and a WELDED diff (100% lock) that always keeps both of the driven wheels spinning at the same rate. Whatever it is that you understand by MLD is a type of a limited slip diff in the same way that beef is a type of meat.
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Oooookay. Yeah, watching videos is where I get my knowledge. 
There are many types of differentials and variations, but ALL OF THEM fall into one of the three categories I previously described. There are also many types of meat I like to eat - some of which may be birds like chicken, others like beef, pork and lamb are red meats, and some of which are fish. ALL OF THEM are meat, and the beef, pork and lamb are all RED MEATS despite their differences and variations.
Seeing as that seems too difficult for you to comprehend, I have nothing more to add.
There are many types of differentials and variations, but ALL OF THEM fall into one of the three categories I previously described. There are also many types of meat I like to eat - some of which may be birds like chicken, others like beef, pork and lamb are red meats, and some of which are fish. ALL OF THEM are meat, and the beef, pork and lamb are all RED MEATS despite their differences and variations.
Seeing as that seems too difficult for you to comprehend, I have nothing more to add.
