C63 LSD
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I am currently looking at W204 C63s and found that most of them apparently have open diffs? If this is true is there an easy way to tell if it was fitted with an LSD without lifting it/emailing Benz themselves for original equipment.
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Yes, the W204 came standard with open differential, except for the Black Series. The easiest way is to use a VIN decoder and look for option code 471. I don't know how it was optioned for the US market. May have been part of a performance package or something. The LSD became standard equipment with the W205. The PFL non-S had a standard mechanical LSD and the S had a standard electronic locking differential. With the FL, AMG discontinued the mechanical LSD and both the S and non-S have the electronic locking differential, with the S getting the 9-stage traction control from the GT R to differentiate it from the non-S.
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That is true for USA cars. All performance package (APX) cars sold in Canada had a LSD. Not sure about European and ROW cars.
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whoa! That’s an interesting spec. That’s about where my sweet spot would be. Just throw a wavetrac in it and it’s money! I loved my 722.9 with the torque converter. It was a great daily and I never experienced any of the jerkiness that some of the MCT cars seem to have.
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You are thinking P30 for the 2009 cars with the LSD and stiffer suspension. The 2010 cars had the P31 package with the uprated engine and increased engine power but the LSD was a separate option. The charge over started with builds sometime in December 2009.
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I am not positive about the 2010 and 2011 cars, but AFAIK all Performance / Development Pack cars here came with the LSD. Unlike in the US, there was no standalone P31 package. All facelift cars (2012+) that had the APX development package definitely came with an LSD as well as the stiffer suspension from the P30 package (which was completely dropped and not available in the US). Are you only referring to the 2010 and 2011 pre-facelift cars?
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I am referring to the 2010 because I had one with the performance package and the LSD was a stand alone option and not included in the performance package for that year. Not sure about the 2011 model year and how it was packaged.
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I don't know what the actual lock ratio is, but typically LSDs lock between 25-40%. I found BMW uses a 25% ratio. As said above, 100% lock is only possible in a straight line. That's one of the benefits of the eLSD in the W205. It can transition to 100% lock coming out of a corner and reduce the lock ratio according to the steering angle etc. to allow turning. I see RENNtech has an LSD for the W204 that claims 100% lock in a straight line, but not sure how they do that w/o an electronic component to it.
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Here's a decent write-up of how diffs work on the Bimmerforums site:
https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...56#post3750056
The LSD that RENNtech sells is an OS Giken Super Lock. The language is somewhat misleading, but you can see how it works at https://osgikenusa.com/pages/the-os-...-lsd-explained. OS Giken does make excellent diffs... I have one in one of my race cars.
https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...56#post3750056
The LSD that RENNtech sells is an OS Giken Super Lock. The language is somewhat misleading, but you can see how it works at https://osgikenusa.com/pages/the-os-...-lsd-explained. OS Giken does make excellent diffs... I have one in one of my race cars.
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Correct. Some German company was selling custom-made drop-in diffs where both the accel and decel are at an angle, and I have either extra or thicker plates in mine to modify the preload. I get some lock on decel as well - IIRC it was a 60/40 or something like that (instead of the OEM 30/0) when new. As the clutch plates wear out you lose some of the lock, but they are easy to rebuild.
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2009 came with the LDS
471 MECHANICAL LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL
do some more digging, there are a bunch of Dodge/ Chryslers out there with the same diff in them.
