OIL additives are BAD stop using ceretec and mos2
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OIL additives are BAD stop using ceretec and mos2
Flush them out guys trust me they are hurting more than helping your engine. Just run a good quality oil with nothing added to it.
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Oh...... the motor oil Geek says oil additives are bad. I have to stop using them right away.
He uses a frother to mix it up and comments how much it foams up. Last time I checked a frother is made to introduce air into a fluid. WTF
He uses a frother to mix it up and comments how much it foams up. Last time I checked a frother is made to introduce air into a fluid. WTF
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That guy is actually an oil engineer and makes oils for racing companies lol
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Makes you wonder how some m156s with 90k miles have cams that look brand new and cars with 40k miles that need a whole top end done.
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No but we all try to keep our top end from healthy and all this time we could of been causing the cams and valve buckets to wear out with adding additives.
Makes you wonder how some m156s with 90k miles have cams that look brand new and cars with 40k miles that need a whole top end done.
Makes you wonder how some m156s with 90k miles have cams that look brand new and cars with 40k miles that need a whole top end done.
My experience is different My first C63 had 150k miles and I used ceratec. The lobes and buckets looked perfect. It's the same with my second C63 with 60k miles. Both driven daily or at least every other day.
I think it comes down to how long the car sits in-between drives. It's usually the intake cam lobes and buckets which start to go first. That makes me believe the oil film isn't solid enough when started.
I have used ceratec or some other moly additive in all my engines since 2000 and never had an issue.
Makes it hard for me to believe that the oil geek really has enough data or examples to sate that all oil additives are bad.
There are plenty of other "experts" out there who would promote additives.
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<snip>... Both driven daily or at least every other day.
I think it comes down to how long the car sits in-between drives. It's usually the intake cam lobes and buckets which start to go first. That makes me believe the oil film isn't solid enough when started.
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I think it comes down to how long the car sits in-between drives. It's usually the intake cam lobes and buckets which start to go first. That makes me believe the oil film isn't solid enough when started.
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he actually, didn't say anything negative against LiquiMoly MoS2 or LiquiMoly Ceratec other than the generic statements of, additives can dilute your oils additive package. also, that he designed a well designed premium oil that has all the right additives. and...buy an oil with all the right additives.
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I think it’s important to keep in mind that Lake Speed Jr has a relationship with Joe Gibbs Racing/Driven Oils. Some of the additives that he alludes to are already baked into Driven Oils.
If what one has been doing successfully to prolong these engines especially with regard to cylinder bore wear on the m157 and the earlier M278, I’d keep doing what you’re doing.
If what one has been doing successfully to prolong these engines especially with regard to cylinder bore wear on the m157 and the earlier M278, I’d keep doing what you’re doing.
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8972470]I think it’s important to keep in mind that Lake Speed Jr has a relationship with Joe Gibbs Racing/Driven Oils. Some of the additives that he alludes to are already baked into Driven Oils.
If what one has been doing successfully to prolong these engines especially with regard to cylinder bore wear on the m157 and the earlier M278, I’d keep doing what you’re doing.
If what one has been doing successfully to prolong these engines especially with regard to cylinder bore wear on the m157 and the earlier M278, I’d keep doing what you’re doing.
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When the people that really know what they are doing - namely the triboloigists that work for reputable companies and design an oil to meet specific standards and specifications - properly blend a quantity of something in the oil during the manufacturing itself, it usually works. When a "Google certified" enthusiast / mechanic starts adding things to the recipe to "improve" it, it always ends up being worse than the oil by itself, and often very detrimental or sometimes even disastrous.
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he actually, didn't say anything negative against LiquiMoly MoS2 or LiquiMoly Ceratec other than the generic statements of, additives can dilute your oils additive package. also, that he designed a well designed premium oil that has all the right additives. and...buy an oil with all the right additives.
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That perplex me as to why he did a test of Ceratec + engine flush, who would run that combo in their engine? Would you just run engine flush 15-30mins on idle to flush before fresh oil change?
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He didn't say anything bad about Ceratec by itself. The actual data from his first initial test actually looks like it passed and he does not have anything negative to say about MOS2 or Ceratec . He then later points out a porsche i think that had Ceratec and engine flush which you can't necessary say that the Ceratec did anything wrong at all in that aspect. Without knowing for sure what exactly that person did it could be looked at as he added both and drove the vehicle around or they was still some of the engine flush in the system after they changed the oil, but to blame it directly on the Ceratec is misleading. I would say that he almost skips over the Liqui Moly additives for the most part and concentrates on others that have data to back it up. Notice how he never brings up any data at the end when he is talking about real world circumstance's of just oil and Ceratec, he only brings it up when it has engine flush.
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He didn't say anything bad about Ceratec by itself. The actual data from his first initial test actually looks like it passed and he does not have anything negative to say about MOS2 or Ceratec . He then later points out a porsche i think that had Ceratec and engine flush which you can't necessary say that the Ceratec did anything wrong at all in that aspect. Without knowing for sure what exactly that person did it could be looked at as he added both and drove the vehicle around or they was still some of the engine flush in the system after they changed the oil, but to blame it directly on the Ceratec is misleading. I would say that he almost skips over the Liqui Moly additives for the most part and concentrates on others that have data to back it up. Notice how he never brings up any data at the end when he is talking about real world circumstance's of just oil and Ceratec, he only brings it up when it has engine flush.
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A local shop had a sale on driven oils so I picked up a case for the next change in the m157. It just has strait motul right now. So will be a nice comparo.
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