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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 09:08 AM
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Yes everything looks good, only $ 100 refund is missing. The lease payment is off by about $90 from what it should be with current numbers.
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 09:36 AM
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 10:17 AM
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Dima
C&D just tested m340i at 3.7 sec, 0-60, same wight, fewer horses, how can C43 be almost a second slower? What's AMG magic?
Going back to this. Just did some correlational analysis. Everything post 2020 seems to have a completely unrealistic 0-60 times and don't even match real world testing. 1/4 mile times are very close, match real world data and the drag race calculator for advertised weight and power figures.

I wouldn't be surprised if MT/C&D post a ~3.8 0-60 times for the w206 c43. Meanwhile it should do the 1/4 mile in the 12.5 second range (+/- 1 tenth). Which should be really similar to w205 performance but still slower than the m340i - the m340i is just a beast hitting the 1/4 in the 12.3x range (again real world data and matching the tested figures on the same site).
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by alexasa
Going back to this. Just did some correlational analysis. Everything post 2020 seems to have a completely unrealistic 0-60 times and don't even match real world testing. 1/4 mile times are very close, match real world data and the drag race calculator for advertised weight and power figures.

I wouldn't be surprised if MT/C&D post a ~3.8 0-60 times for the w206 c43. Meanwhile it should do the 1/4 mile in the 12.5 second range (+/- 1 tenth). Which should be really similar to w205 performance but still slower than the m340i - the m340i is just a beast hitting the 1/4 in the 12.3x range (again real world data and matching the tested figures on the same site).
Can we just simplify it so everyone understands: 0-60 => 1) Power to weight, 2) Drag coefficient, 3) how power is transferred, 4) launch control / tranny
Somewhere in there BMW is superior. It's not number 1 and probably not 2.
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 12:48 PM
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So mine is at the port in East London, anyone else? still no ship assignment.
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dima
Can we just simplify it so everyone understands: 0-60 => 1) Power to weight, 2) Drag coefficient, 3) how power is transferred, 4) launch control / tranny
Somewhere in there BMW is superior. It's not number 1 and probably not 2.
I mean if you really care about 0-60, this may not be the right car for you

But this video shows the difference in advertised claims vs realistic measuring:



the B58 has ~150Nm on the M139
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by alexasa
I mean if you really care about 0-60, this may not be the right car for you

But this video shows the difference in advertised claims vs realistic measuring: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Px...channel=carwow



the B58 has ~150Nm on the M139
No I am only interested from the technical point of you, my priorities have nothing to do with that.
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 01:40 PM
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Interesting that Car & Driver put their own estimates for 0-60 knowing the 4.6 that MB put out there. That being said, 0-60 times or comparisons to other similar vehicles had zero weight towards my interest / continued interest in the '23 C43.

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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 01:55 PM
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Interesting that Car & Driver put their own estimates for 0-60 knowing the 4.6 that MB put out there. That being said, 0-60 times or comparisons to other similar vehicles had zero weight towards my interest / continued interest in the '23 C43.

Because they used formulas with given parameters supported by many years of testing various cars. I get even lower number, I get high 3s.
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 02:12 PM
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Interesting that Car & Driver put their own estimates for 0-60 knowing the 4.6 that MB put out there. That being said, 0-60 times or comparisons to other similar vehicles had zero weight towards my interest / continued interest in the '23 C43.
MT has the CLA45 at: Mercedes-Benz CLA-Class 2020 AWD 8A 3.6 sec 12.1 sec @ 113.6 mph Motor Trend (@https://www.0-60specs.com/0-60-times/)

I've NEVER seen a real world draggy come back with 3.6 with a fully stock CLA45. All testing is right around the 4.0 mark. Like I previously said, all post 2020 data seems EXTREMELY skewed due to testing methodology. Thus my prediction for C&D/MT to post something around 3.8 0-60. Which should make all the keyboard warriors happy lol

In reality it should be like 4.1 via draggy results. Again 1/4 mile times seem pretty accurate so it's whatever weird rollout maths these publications are doing.
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by alexasa
MT has the CLA45 at: Mercedes-Benz CLA-Class 2020 AWD 8A 3.6 sec 12.1 sec @ 113.6 mph Motor Trend (@https://www.0-60specs.com/0-60-times/)

I've NEVER seen a real world draggy come back with 3.6 with a fully stock CLA45. All testing is right around the 4.0 mark. Like I previously said, all post 2020 data seems EXTREMELY skewed due to testing methodology. Thus my prediction for C&D/MT to post something around 3.8 0-60. Which should make all the keyboard warriors happy lol

In reality it should be like 4.1 via draggy results. Again 1/4 mile times seem pretty accurate so it's whatever weird rollout maths these publications are doing.
I am planning to take it to a track that I had reserved.
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My SA called me and expects my car to show up by this Saturday
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by alexasa
I mean if you really care about 0-60, this may not be the right car for you

But this video shows the difference in advertised claims vs realistic measuring: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Px...channel=carwow



the B58 has ~150Nm on the M139
Actually, that video is inaccurate, the A 45 S tested there have a faulty cooling pump resulted in worse performance than it should be.
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 05:15 PM
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My SA called me and expects my car to show up by this Saturday
Wow, that is quick. I will hear more tomorrow on transportation, so hopefully they will have some positive info on if it ends up on a truck ASAP. I'll let you know. My Dealership is about 4 hours from the VPC so not too far.
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by alexasa;[url=tel:8745162
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Amazing! I can't wait to see pictures if mine isn't coming too (my guy picked an awful day to be off)
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I might be waiting until 4/10 to take delivery - so we will see. Excited to see real pictures of US cars and real reviews either way.

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I might be waiting until 4/10 to take delivery - so we will see. Excited to see real pictures of US cars and real reviews either way.
How come? Curious. Don't we all want to get it as soon as possible? After all, been waiting for a year I think since the initial reveal?
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I might be waiting until 4/10 to take delivery - so we will see. Excited to see real pictures of US cars and real reviews either way.
could you wait that long once the car is delivered to the dealership? I mean do they hold the car more than a week ?
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I won't have time unfortunately. SA says it's "yours". Not ideal but it is what it is.
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