JumpinJim

All those cars, except the veyron, have right at 500 ft/lbs or less of torque. The veyron's DCT is a special build and heavily reinforced. It's big, heavy, and costs more than an entire C63 all by itself. The practical limit for a DCT for us paupers is 500 ft/lbs of torque with current technology.

CoOlSlY

OK, I understand. So... We could suspect they plan to have more than 500ft/lbs of torque? I was thinking they would have even with the V8, somewhere like the GTR at ~465ft/lbs.

JumpinJim

I would suspect so. The RS7 puts out about 520 ft/lbs with it's 4.0tt v8. Also keep in mind they plan to replace the 5.5tt with this one in the other models with higher output. It probably wouldn't make financial sense to develop 2 transmissions for the same engine even if the C did come in at 500 or less tq. You wouldn't want to get one and then run into a tuning wall with the DCT limitations if that were the case anyway.

TT C6

This is BULLSH#T.
Please think for yourself and stop spreading ridiculous misinformation.

I am SO tired of reading stupid posts like these.
The Audi S6 is running a DCT.

The GTR DCT has a RETAIL cost, with NO core, of $11,000 and we all know GTR's are running 800-1500hp through that DCT.

There is NO excuse for the C63 IF if does not get a DCT.

JumpinJim

The S6 also only produces 406 ft/lbs or torque. Not a whole lot. The RS6 does not use a DCT despite having the same engine as it produces more power and the DCT isn't up to the task.

The Alpha 9 GTRs with 900hp still only produce a hair above 500 ft/lbs torque. The GTRs producing big power are not running the stock transmission.

HP has nothing to do with how much the transmission can handle. TQ is the limiting factor. Do some reseach.

JumpinJim

Go look for yourself then.

TT C6

GTR only makes a hair over 500 with an alpha 9, eh?
You just proved to everyone here that you are COMPLETELY CLUELESS.
To those who have no idea what you're talking about, please stop trying to argue with me because I will expose you and your false info online.

If the SLS and a 4,400lb S7 can run a DCT, AMG can give the 3,900lb C63 a DCT. Don't even get me started on what tuned versions are running though their DCT without issues.
Don't even get me started on what a stock GTR DCT can do, let along a Bugatti and 911 Turbo's DCT.

JumpinJim

Nice try, but that car that is not using the stock transmission. Again, please look before doing a cut and paste.

Again, the SLS and S6 don't produce a lot of torque so they can get away with using a DCT. I had a 911 turbo with the PDK and it was tuned. I know what it's capable of. It also had transmission problems after I tuned it and ran it hard. Common for for the tuned turbos running the DCT.

TT C6

Trying to tell me about a car, and owner, I've known since 2006?
You're funny, kid.

Don't try to back peddle.
You have no credibility because I already exposed you.
Give up your pathetic argument.
The 2015 C63 is a GROUND UP REDESIGN, so there is NO excuse IF the C63 doesn't get a DCT.

JumpinJim

Back pedal? You're trying to say a GTR can put all this torque through its DCT by providing an example with a car that specificaly doesn't use it? You just exposed yourself. I don't need to provide any excuses. AMG has already provided the reasoning for not using one.

TT C6

And you believe everything a car salesman tries to sell you?
Bugatti and Shep Transmissions have been running DCTs that can reliably take X,XXX hp and torque for years.

The C63 is a entirely new car with ground up redesign.
There are no excuses.
AMG can build a 3,900lb C63 with a DCT.
Trying to say anything else makes you look like a fool.

Pufftrees

Wow September such a long way off! I guess we can look forward to more leaks by the summer though. This car is shaping up to be extremely epic!

PSA: Don't feed the trollls. Arguing with a troll on the forums is like competing in the special Olympics, no matter who wins you both are still retarded.

TT C6

FYI: Ferrari will unveil it's redesigned California with a DCT, 500lbs of torque, in a 3,900lb car next week.
So, just another example that shows AMG can, and better, give the C63 a DCT.

callmiro

...because the Ferrari is $200,000...yet another great example

JumpinJim

Ignore him, he's just trolling. It's already been confirmed the next C63 will not have a DCT or AWD. It's also been confirmed the US C63 will be built in Alabama with the engines being built in germany and shipped over to be installed. Not sure how I feel about that.

TT C6

The GTR DCT has an outright RETAIL cost of $11k and the GTR had a dealer invoice of $63k in 2009.

Are you ignorant of that car or did you fail to read my previous posts on the subject?

TT C6

Oh, ya?
Then explain this, genius:

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-63-amg-...onal-none.html

callmiro

Yah...and how many tranny's snapped that first year...no GTR sold anywhere in 2009 for $63K


I'm at a loss for your blind stupidity...you used the example of a Ferrari costing $200k to compare to a $68K C63


You're getting lost in your own turd storm

TT C6

So, the same people who openly insult me, go crying to the mods like little b#tches, and I get an infraction and they don't ?????
I'm not going to waste anymore time on here if you girls are going to play like that.

Hopefully, I'll be back in September to praise the new C63 and place my order.
If not, I'll make sure to revisit the girls in this thread and point out how the new C63 is a failure.

Enjoy your ugly interiors and pathetic and obsolete transmissions in the meantime.

callmiro

Hsg08

Lol

ADV.1 Wheels

I'm heavily interested in this as my next car and would need DCT.

dremorg

http://www.worldcarfans.com/11402066...red-as-a-sedan

abcut973

I might go back to Paris in September

mainly

hey. why dont you post a pic of your ugly piece of crap corvette so we can all have a laugh. (serioulsy, i could use a good laugh.)