I think I included those

 

^ Sorry. Common core educated so I'm slightly illiterate.

 

Everyone doesn't have to agree with me.
Just make and intelligent point and support it.
I can agree to disagree. As long as the opposing position is properly supported.


Sure, there is still an argument to support continuing to offer a clutch pedal in a sports coupe. It's an emotional and physically engaging option for SOME people.
I have no problem accepting that EMOTIONAL desire, as long as those same people are willing to conceded that DCT is superior to a clutch pedal in ALL ways, but that they still want the "emotional" connection that the "feeling" of a clutch pedal represents for them. Providing that they are willing to PAY for it and that there is a business case for it, they should have the option of a clutch pedal.
Corvette orders have proven there is still a market for clutch pedals in 2014, and I would not try to deny people that option if there is a business case for it, as long as that doesn't deny us the option of a superior transmission in a DCT.


Case in point: As long as a RWD C63 doesn not deny us the superior AWD drivetrain, I think RWD should be an OPTION.
But, if MERCEDES makes us choose only ONE drivetrain, it MUST be AWD.

 

I am not saying for a second that the DCT is better. I am sure it is and my brother (1stamg) has this tranny in the SLS. It is great to drive and I have driven many laps on the track with it.

As great as it is, personally, you could strap a 3 speed GM auto to the 6.2 and I could probably live with it.

My 2014 shifts much better than my 2011 with the newer transmission. After it warms up it is pretty much in manual, yes. It is very good, but like I said earlier I wouldn't get another brand because the transmission is quicker.

There are many variables that go into which car I get and the positives of the other aspects outweigh by far. One aspect is the transmission but it is weighted against styling, comfort, badass V8, handling, etc...so while other brands may have a quicker transmission, it wouldn't make a difference to me in which car I get.

 

You lost me there, angry young man. I'm the guy who drives a C63 year round, so don't know what you are talking about me relying on ALL WHEEL DRIVE . And yes, I have driven a car with a DCT...it is very very nice.

You don't have to accept anything, it is a free market and you can choose whatever you want. I would rather my C63 with the MCT, the horror of it all, over an M3 or RS4 with a DCT. Or any Corvette. Ever. That's just me.

I would like a C63 with DCT, who wouldn't? I don't want AWD, though. I think it is fine RWD and more fun.

 

Angry?
Young?
Ok, junior.
Either your reading comprehension or your ability to do math sucks.

You're C63 over "any corvette....ever" shows your level of education, experience and bias.

I'd love to see the expression on your face when you in your precious C63 meets up with weather or a Corvette that makes you their bitc#.
I guess you're right, and the 2014+ E63 is wrong.

 

Dont feed the troll lol

 

My expression? How old are you for real? Like, who cares, I'll just try and live with the shame.

I have a university degree. that satisfies your education requirement.

ZR1 is a very nice car, driven it a few times. There is your experience

Yes I am biased. This a C63 forum, isn't it?

Let me explain this in terms that may be easier for you to understand, please pay attention this time.

Your Corvette has the most laughable POS interior of any sports car known to man. And because it is a great car, people will live with it because of the other positives it has: Engine, braking and, for some, styling, and handling. Heritage and mystique of owning a Corvette is also a plus, a living legend in the car world...warts and all. So yes, the interior is crappy but that is just one factor. that doesn't detract people from buying it because of all the other things it does well.

And so it goes with my C63 507 not having a DCT. It would be great if it had it, but it doesn't but the other qualities far outweigh that aspect of what is missing.

Now do you understand?

 

Typical euro-snob douche response.
Who's the one trolling ???
I know plenty of valet's that park ZR1's too and there are plenty of people with ZERO common sense and intelligence that have University Degrees.
Your attempt to impress me is a FAIL.

I will probably be buying a W205 and I am NOT biased because, just like Jay Leno, I appreciate all great cars, regardless or brand or country of origin.
I look forward to buying a W205 C63 and breaking Euro car stereotypes,
just like I did when I bought a new C5 in 1997,
because I'm a un-biased "Car Guy".
With that said, the C7 ZO6 is, and will be, crushing a lot of egos.


If you think this interior isn't respectable, your fan boi leg-humping and euro-douchery is obvious to all.





But, I think we all can agree that THIS is THEE interior for 2014:

 

I agree with things on both ends here...

First off, gents, if it wasn't for TT C6 many of you would be more on board with the awesomeness of the corvette. I will be the first to admit that I think the new body is just way too much for my taste. However, the old body (so 2010,11,12?) does it for me. Also, if it came down to getting a "sports" car and the C63 and corvette were on the table I'd get a vette. Mainly because the C63 really isn't a true sports car. Is it a sporty car that is pretty quick out of the box? Yes. But, it is still a sedan. A Zo6 or Zr1 would smash the C63 in just about everything other than trunk space, ability to put 5 people in the car, and maybe some interior bells and whistles. All of those are more related to sporty sedans than sports car. Example, Porsche (a proper sports car) has options such as no radio for the gt3.

As for some other comments I saw, luckily for me the RS4 came in manual so I didn't have to opt for a DCT.

Other things that have come up is this whole RWD and AWD argument. Can you drive RWD year round? Yes, it most areas. Some places it doesn't make much sense but I've done it without an issue. That being said, I most definitely prefer AWD in something that is just getting me from A to B. AWD doesn't mean it isn't fun. The arguments against AWD have mainly but the "fun factor" and weight savings. How many of you are so concerned with weight savings on a daily basis that you strip your car down every time you go out and buy 1 bag of groceries instead of 20? Also, how many really find themselves sideways on the daily smoking the tires? Obviously times come when you take all the weight out and get the car sideways, but for a daily driver that is ridiculous to consider when most take part in those activities <5 times/yr.

MCT/DCT beat to death...

Again, I think it has just been the way TT C6 has presented his bits of information that has brought hostility into this thread. I'm not trying to do that at all, but I tend to agree with him when I step back and ask myself to do an honest assessment of what has been said here. Especially when it comes to DD vs Sports car etc.

 

I love the ZR1, I have driven it and it is breathtaking to drive. The interior is crap, though. TT C6 is great for comic relief and all, but to your point, there is no question that AWD serves its purpose, especially where I live. And of course, many companies are now trying to dial out the understeer which kills the driving experience, and it seems that MB may be leading the way here as reviews of the S7, RS7 speak to the understeer which hurts the driving experience. MB is moving the bias towards the rear, I believe, similar to what Lamborghini has been doing with the Gallardo, and I think Audi does for the R8. That's great.

The sideways thing happens regularly for me, twice today I think and it is a hoot. These cars, or cars in general, should be about entertainment to and the C63 has always been the most loyal in making their owners giggle, laugh, grin.

I find that, and again this is my personal experience, not some Corvette fanboy sitting at his desk with his knee twitching waiting for some AMG guys opinion on a Corvette, the AMG has no compromises. Would AWD be better? yes. Point A to Point B, do you really need 500+ bhp? No. But this car has it and if you don't like it, there are other options. that is what I love about this car.

For others who are not fanatical and are looking for compromises, well Acura has made themselves a pretty good profit on the heels of those kinds.

 

Do me a favour, tap the dash on that Corvette for me, will ya?

 

C63 + Winter tires = Driveable in the snow .

 

That is pretty much the point of the ZR1 though, a breathtaking drive. You don't get into a ZR1 and expect S class interior touches.

Sideways is fun but I wouldn't do it daily. That is just me though, not saying you shouldn't.

I think for the most part the majority of us agree on most things throughout this thread. The delivery is slightly different from some which leads to this comical relief but the information seems valid.


I'm not sure about the 507, but my 09 C63 was plasticy on the dash. The vette dash looks leathery and nicer. At least it looks like stitching above the left most vent.

Driveable? Yes. Are you going to mess yourself at least once? Likely.

 

Pics from a "Euro Snob", picked her up April 17, 2005. What a great car it was.



I am a car guy like you, just not a dink...big difference.

 

^ I like the brick driveway. Do weeds ever come up?

 

I know, I'm just messing with him.

Yes, the 09 C63 dash is plasticky, but at that price point it is pretty good compared to others, the 507 is better but ZR1 is at a different price point and even my friend who has a ZR1 thinks the quality or materials and workmanship is unacceptable, but it is fun to drive!

 

It's not brick!

It is stamped asphalt and no weeds. It is a great product. If you look closely you will see no actual bricks. You pick your pattern, they stamp it and you finish it with a concrete paint. Great for up here.

 

^ That's pretty cool. I just looked quickly so it looked like brick to me. I questioned it though because I see you're up in Canada which obviously means snow so snow removal was my next question.

 

I used a snowblower and that driveway in that picture was already 6 years old. If I had a plow come, he would have destroyed the finish.

 

Just ignore him. He's arrogant, condescending, and has a huge yet fragile ego. He has the maturity of a child; he can't handle any sort of criticism and he'll explode on you if you dare to disagree with any of his opinions. Look no further than his post history. He loves the attention, so just don't give it to him.

 

It's OK! It's all in good fun.

 

BMW changes their ECU's every two model years or so though, the E9x 335i had at least 4 different ECU's in 6 model years and only two different engines. Each different ECU needed time to be cracked.. hell, barely anyone but Dinan has cracked any 2011+ BMW ECU's I think, its all piggyback world right now, at least for the F chassis cars.

Also, that obviously NOT a factory Corvette interior.. nor are those factory Corvette seats

 

You talk about the dashboards on a car that will destroy anything on the road with $10k in mods, but you'll buy a car with a SOLID REAR AXLE ????

Only an uneducated IDIOT buys a car with a SOLID REAR AXLE in the 21st century.

 

This is a funny thread lol.

I still cant get over how ugly the 2015 C class tail lights are so if its AWD or RWD whatever.... W204 AMG for the win!