Hello everyone -

So this is my first post to the forum but have to admit I've followed a lot of the comments made over the past few months.

Anyway, like many of you I'm waiting on the official release of the C63S configurator so I can take a look at a potential build. Without going into many details, I recently began thinking about selling my 2015 BMW M4 for the C63S. There are many personal reasons for considering this but the main reason is I need four doors. Why not the M3? Well, I don't track my cars so my underlying fear is I won't enjoy the best of the M as a daily driver. After my break in service, I pushed the car quite a bit but still felt the quickness was not where I expected. I'm not sure if the true power of the M is revealed on the track or not -- but I don't feel it. The overall power of the C63S appears to have what I'm looking for but I won't know until I can get behind the wheel and do a butt dyno.

With that said, are there others out there that share my situation? Specifically, any M4 (M3) owners out there considering the C63/S? I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts? Thanks...!

 

 

Yeah, I know. Really not trying to start yet another M vs. AMG debate. Just looking for feedback from others that might have the same "gut feeling" I'm having.

 

Make the switch. I'm coming from a BMW and this is going to be my first AMG. The AMGs are known for being better daily drivers

 

Well I am not a current F80 owner but I do have a 335 xdrive and previously had a W204 C63, at that time my father also owned a E92 M3. I have driven plenty of M's (owned a M Roadster and M Coupe before having kids) and the C63 and will give you my thoughts and what I am thinking for my next car in a few months.

1) Personally I liked the C63 better than the previous gen M3, they were "different cars" but for everyday driving the C63 can be best described as "more fun" by most who have driven both. On the track most people would have taken the M3, but I don't track my cars (no time, busy with a young family).

2) I switched to the 335 xdrive because my C63 had some engine issues (won't go into details, nothing common and wouldn't stop me from buying another one) that scared me out of owning it after the warranty was over, and since at that time it was the end of life cycle for both the M3 and C63 I decided to get a more efficient car with AWD to hold me over until NOW! and I love the decision I made as the F30 335 has been a great car for me.

3) I have gone back and forth on what to get for my next car, have a 4 and 6 year old so 4 doors is a must as they are in my car every day and its just easier with 4 doors. Having owned a C63 in the past and loving the driving experience (personally I don't mind the transmission, most BMW M owners would say they could never drive a non DCT...), I am really considering a C63 (why I am on these boards), but M3 is also something special, best M3 to date, and its interior is a ton better than the old one as well.

Like you if I go to the C63 its most likely going to be the "S" version as I think it will only be about $5K price difference when loaded the same as the regular (I know the base will be higher than that but it comes with a lot more standard than the regular one). I think the C63 will be more fun to drive on a daily commute, the interior is amazing (except for ipad screen with 2" border ) I personally like the exterior, maybe not as much as the M3, but enough that its not a negative to me, however I will only consider it if they offer the bright red and blue colors shown in pictures (which is not certain in the US right now!).

a few things to consider with Mercedes/AMG and the C63

-maintenance is not included, I believe the 4 year 40,000 plan (BMW is 50,000 mile included) will cost about $2,400 extra, gotta add that to the base cost of the car when comparing them

-you will burn through rear tires like crazy (I was going through them every 6K miles driving conservatively while my father could go 12K-15K in his M3), just the crazy torque and aggressive stance of the C63.

-The M3 gets more recognition, by that I mean more people know what it is, this isn't a negative to Mercedes but most people look at the C63 as another Mercedes, while with the M3 the same people somehow know its different, not sure exactly why that is. And some people don't care but I gotta say when I drop $75K on a car its nice to get compliments on it! who doesn't like compliments, makes you feel all warm inside

 

Yeah, a DD with a bit of a bump is what I want. My M4 feels like I need to push it to get good use of the power. Don't get me wrong, the power is there. I just feel I need to force it a bit -- which is why I think it might be better suited for the track.

 

Former owner of 6 BMWs.

I made the switch to Mercedes-Benz/AMG with the purchase of my '13 W204 C63.

I both respect and enjoy the BMW/M brand. Recently, I have just preferred what AMG is offering. Any dual-role performance-oriented car I buy must be a great road car, first and foremost. The ability to adequately handle track day fun is second.

At some point in the near future I'd like to add a dedicated track car but for now, I'm loving my Benzes and am very much looking forward to driving the W205 C63 (standard LSD, insane 4.0L biturbo V8, class-leading interior/tech, excellent road manners, and understated but sharp looks = a winner in my book).

One reason I love my C63 is because of the sound(s) it makes. In my opinion, a raucous but well-tuned exhaust note contributes greatly to the driving experience.

Do you have any specific questions?

 

Doc I am in a similar boat. I currently drive a 2013 F10 M5. I was in the first Euro Delivery group for that model.

1. I love my M5. It is a very powerful, beautiful, and comfortable.

2. My lease is up in August and I obviously wanted to move into a new model. I looked at the M4/M3 and even test drove one.

3. I love the styling of BMWs (including the M3/4) the problem was my short test drive of the M4 left me missing the V8 of my M5. I know on paper it may be close to the same speed but it just didn't have the thrust of the V8 in my M5. I knew then that the M4/M3 wasn't an option. On top of this two of my buddies may get the M4. I feel that the C63 won't be quite as common.

4. C63s seemed to fit the bill. While the exterior styling may come off as a bit conservative it still looks sexy as hell. The real winner for me was the ENGINE and the SOUND! 503 HP twin turbo V8 with that beastly sound was what set it apart. No matter what the lap times or 0-60 are the C63s will always seem like a bigger beast to me and that is what I want when I spend 80k on a sports car.

5. The Interior is also much better in the C63.

6. Go for the C63 I had the same dilemma you did and after thinking long and hard the C just has more bang for the buck.

 

Thanks for this thorough comment. I really appreciate the thoughts at the bottom. I do remember hearing about the issues with burning through the rears every 8k miles. The way I drive, I'll likely average about 6K to 8K on my tires. The maintenance is also a good point but not something I'm worried about. I don't know much about MB reliability but If I make the move I'll likely buy the 4 yr plan.

When I got the M4, I had every fourth car pull up next to me just to give me the thumbs up -- so I know about the recognition. But at the end of the day, it is all about how we (I) feel with these cars. I'm not a really young guy (in my late 40s) so image is less important to me.

My previous two cars were both BMW sedans (M3 & 550i) so I think part of my regret that I miss having the four doors. My wife has commented on how "awkward" and heavy the coupe doors are compared to my previous 550i. Weird yes but I get her point and have to consider that.

Anyway, thanks again for the comments.

 

I had a C230 Sportcoupe when I was in my early 20s. I loved that car. I've been leasing a few different BMW 3 series models since then (E90 and F30).

Now, after getting disappointed with my current F30 BMW, I'm ready to go back to Mercedes. Audi, Lexus, etc.. are all meh to me.

I really love the new C class, I was wowed when I looked at it in the dealer. But I'm not sure about the tail lights.

I also saw an S class coupe while I was there. That car just blew me away. If the C class coupe is a smaller version of it, I will buy a C450 or C63 in a heartbeat.

 

No one ever, you would be the first.

 

Thanks guys for the feedback -- its been really helpful in my decision making.



No, I don't think I'm the first to move in this direction (BMW to MB) but I may be one of a few with the new I6 M3/M4 willing to leave the car within 6 to 8 months of its launch for another newly launched vehicle. Thanks again.

 

I have done the move from the first Z3 3.2 to the 330i followed by the 550i and M5 but I lost the passion with the brand after the last redesign. My experience with the Porsche brand has been great but I cant use it on a daily basis and between motorcycle riding and sailing I have no time for the Porsche... which bring me to MB. I was looking for a 4 seats daily drive other then my Range River Sport Supercharge, and I tested the RS5 but the back seats are not really functional. Unfortunately, here in the US we don't get the RS4, or the new RS3 so the only logical move was to the MB. I tested the CLS AMG but I didn't like the transmission and it felt too big, (The same goes to the Panamera GTS) and then I learned about he new C63. So technically I didn't drive the car but on paper everything looks like a match for me. So a week later I put the deposit on the C63 S Edition 1. I cant wait to share my first drive experience with you'll. reading the latest reviews just confirmed that I have done the right move..... for me. and yes I am an MB Newbe

 

Keep the M4 and get the C63S, we all need a little variety in our life!

 

Will anyone own a C63 S and M3/M4.

 

If you have the money do it. Why would you drive a car you don't connect with if you can afford switching? Switching from M4 to M3 would be insane, then you would lose the same money and still not get the job done.

The thing is that the C class isn't exactly big. I would at least test drive the F10 M5 if I were in your position. I can't imagine your BMW would mind

 

I was a die-hard BMW guy until they started doing stupid crap about 8 years ago. I owned a 1995 E36 M3 Lightweight as well as a 1995 E36 M3 Luxury. I owned a 2003 Dinan E46 M3 and breifly owned a E60 M5. The M5 is what turned me off to BMW along with them starting to plaster the "M" badges everywhere on non M cars. I was also a little upset that BMW was still offering just their inline 6 in the M3 while AMG was offering V8's. The V8 offered in the E9X M3's ended up being a dud for all intensive purposes. I switched over to AMG in 2007 when I ordered my CLK Black Series and took delviery of it in September of that same year. I have been hooked on Mercedes and AMG ever since. Since 2007 I have owned 3 ML's and GL and three AMG Black Series. I have a new GT-S Edition one that will be here in less than a month but now AMG is testing my patience witht he release of the new C450 Fake AMG Sport.

 

 

It's ultimately 100% up to you but from the perspective of a member that appreciates what you bring to the community (from solid info. to pushing the performance envelope across various AMG platforms), I sure hope you stick around. I would venture to guess I'm not alone in that sentiment.

Once the AMG Sport models have been established and the "newness" wears off, and once the ranks of real-world GT/GT S and C63/C63 S owners grow, I have a feeling that everything will return to business as usual and we can resume appreciating the newest AMG models for the incredible performance cars that they are.

 

So my friend, are we going to throw OUT the baby with the bathwater and move over to Audi now (who has done the same with their Sportline) or Lexus who has their F Sport cars or ChryCo with their SRTDesign cars?? Pretty soon you'll be saddling up a Yugo Jim

 

I own 2013 Audi S6, I bought it for one of my VPs as a company car. It is a nice car for the money. The interior is nicer than a Benz E class or BMW 5 series and the Quatro awd is beter than BMW X Drive or MBs 4-matic....at least the 4-matics I have driven up until this point.

You guys that keep throwing Audi into the conversation are slightly off base. Audi first introduced their S cars, S4, S6, S8, then is 2004 they released the "S-Line" cars then the RS line came out later.

 

go on YouTube....chris harris c63s , you will get a good idea of what you are looking at. i would be very surprised if merc. would let you butt dyno a c63s. im not sure if 406 pounds torque at 1800 rpm is not enough that a c 63 will do the job a whole lot better. carlos lago at motor trend says 0/60 in 4 flat or a little better for m4...i would say too close to call, or at least spend a lot of money for in trade in. remember mercedes still uses their... £@¦²³±@£... wet clutch transmission wich i have in my 2014 507 ...unworthy at best ,****ty if you ask me . i still cant believe they are still putting that transmission in a brand new car/ engine /suspension .

 

Nope hellcat charger to c63 why spen 75k on a dodge car when you can get a nice sexy ride like the new Amg plus dodge screwed me and told me my car would be here in march won't get it tell December so I got my mony back so we will see how this's goes

 

There are a few cars out there that are quicker than the c63 but none of the will have the "complete package" that you get with an AMG.

 

So I just returned from my local dealer and had a short conversation a sales guy. Bottom line: He tells me his team will participate in the launch on the new 2015 C63 in about 90 days from today and that the car will not be available on the lots until October or November. I told him I was closely watching for the release of the configurator and that most people believe it (the configurator) will be released any day now. I also mentioned that some people were mentioning around April as a potential build/production date for their pre-ordered cars....does that sound familiar? He said those people are crazy.

I quickly realize he had another objective as he quickly pointed out that they have a few 2014 C63s on the lot and "no sense in waiting until November when you can have one now." I quickly pointed to my M4 on the lot and said I'm only interested in moving from that to the new C63S. I really like what they did with the new engine and body style. Plus I need four doors -- I'm not settling for anything less. The conversation quickly went to how the new CLA AMG is a good substitute for my M4. I thanked him for his time and decided this is not the dealership I want to work with.

Before I call BS on this, can someone please enlighten me on what the truth might be for the release date for the C63S? If he is telling the truth, okay...I learned something new today. If not, please provide me the name of a competent dealership here in SoCal that I can work with. I'm willing to work over the phone and may even drive a bit if its worth it -- but I will not be giving the dealer 15 minutes from my home any of my money.