POSAIDON tuned C63/C63 S to 610 ps and 591 tq
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POSAIDON tuned C63/C63 S to 610 ps and 591 tq
Pretty impressive for just a tune:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/115041792380/mercedes-amg-gt-and-c63-receive-power-boosts-from-posaidon
Also interesting that the M177 makes significantly more torque than the M178 tune (591 tq vs 535 tq). I wonder if it's due to the DCT vs the MCT transmission? Either way, looks like a tune alone will easily push this car over 600 HP!
http://www.worldcarfans.com/115041792380/mercedes-amg-gt-and-c63-receive-power-boosts-from-posaidon
Also interesting that the M177 makes significantly more torque than the M178 tune (591 tq vs 535 tq). I wonder if it's due to the DCT vs the MCT transmission? Either way, looks like a tune alone will easily push this car over 600 HP!
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Pretty impressive for just a tune:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/115041792380/mercedes-amg-gt-and-c63-receive-power-boosts-from-posaidon
Also interesting that the M177 makes significantly more torque than the M178 tune (591 tq vs 535 tq). I wonder if it's due to the DCT vs the MCT transmission? Either way, looks like a tune alone will easily push this car over 600 HP!
http://www.worldcarfans.com/115041792380/mercedes-amg-gt-and-c63-receive-power-boosts-from-posaidon
Also interesting that the M177 makes significantly more torque than the M178 tune (591 tq vs 535 tq). I wonder if it's due to the DCT vs the MCT transmission? Either way, looks like a tune alone will easily push this car over 600 HP!
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Now, when do we start the discussion about the best tires to put this crazy power down. I know the W204 was/is average about 5k with the current rears pushing less power. The new mechanics of the W205 should help but I think I want to get a nice set of tires to really enjoy this car.
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Geez, this is crazy power. But me likes
Now, when do we start the discussion about the best tires to put this crazy power down. I know the W204 was/is average about 5k with the current rears pushing less power. The new mechanics of the W205 should help but I think I want to get a nice set of tires to really enjoy this car.
Now, when do we start the discussion about the best tires to put this crazy power down. I know the W204 was/is average about 5k with the current rears pushing less power. The new mechanics of the W205 should help but I think I want to get a nice set of tires to really enjoy this car.
5,000 is nothing lolI hope mine will last about 10,000 even after i do everything to it
Yeah I've heard of that. Was it AMS?
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Cool...Looks like Renntech is on the scene too. I don't know if anyone saw this yet.
http://www.*********.com/content.php...st-sound-video
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Cool...Looks like Renntech is on the scene too. I don't know if anyone saw this yet.
http://www.*********.com/content.php...st-sound-video
http://www.*********.com/content.php...st-sound-video
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5 year bump lol. So I saw on their site, they list tune + "hardware modification necessary" yielding 880hp on PUMP, which should be somewhere close to 750rwhp on PUMP: https://posaidon.de/tuning/mercedes/...05/c63-amg-205. Anyone have first-hand experience with these guys?
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So I shot Posaidon an email, and this was their response:
"Thank you for your mail and your interest in our products.
You are interested in our performance improvements for the Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG, w205.
This car has a M177DE40AL engine with 3982 ccm and 350 kW (476 HP) and 650 Nm of torque,
or 375 kW (510 HP) and 700 Nm of torque as C63 S AMG.
If you are interested in our offers for this car, we would need you to send us the vehicle identification number and mileage.
We also need to know where you are from. Especially the bigger stages require a lot of hardware modification.
We do modify the software of the ECU directly (remapping).
All our tunings require a direct software update of the engine control unit.
This applies to any car and any tuning. The ECU software update is always done that way.
We do not use tuning boxes or piggy back units.
We offer pure software tunings / remapping’s, without the need to modify the hardware.
The tuning to 449 kW (611 HP) and 800 Nm costs 2.400-, euro, incl. VAT.
This applies to the S-Version as well as the Non S-Version, since they share the same engine with just a difference in software by Mercedes-Benz.
Our software tuning is very hard to detect, even for the official Mercedes-Benz dealer.
In case Mercedes does a software upgrade of the ECU, the tuning will be lost.
For a service fee, we can restore the tuning.
You do not have to buy the whole tuning again, but we would need to access send the ECU again.
All other tuning options of this engine would include hardware modifications.
I will only give you a short overview, if you are interested in these stages, I can send you more detailed infos.
The tuning to 515 kW (700 HP) and 890 Nm requires new turbo chargers, downpipes and air intake / cooling,
in combination with the software upgrade of the engine controller and transmission controller.
The price is about 19.900,- euro, incl. VAT.
If this is not an S-Model, you would also need an upgrade of the rear differential. This will cost extra.
The tuning to 574 kW (780 HP) and 980 Nm is based on the previous stage and will increase the power even more.
The same hardware modifications are required. The price is 24.900,- euro, incl. VAT.
The tuning stages to 610 kW (830 HP) and 1100 Nm and 647 kW (880 HP) and 1200 Nm
are based on the engine from the E63 S AMG, 213.
The E63 has basically the same engine as the C63 AMG. They are both M177 engines.
However, the difference of the E63 AMG is different key components that would all need an upgrade.
These parts are the pistons, railpumps, manifold, spark plugs and everything the other stages already include.
The price has to be calculated individually. We need the vehicle identification number.
Depending on the stage and options this is expected to be between 50.000,- and 60.000,- € euro.
Additional upgrades for the braking system should also be considered, as well as tires, that can handle the new top speed.
All tunings can include the removal of the Vmax limitation.
Start-Stop Mode can also be deactivated for free on request with every tuning.
All tunings and modifications of the car will affect your warranty.
The electronic remapping of the ECU will only optimize the software.
However, due to the increased power, the stresses and natural wear for all components of the car will increase.
We do not provide any kind of warranty for purely electronic tuning stages, regarding any kind of damage that may arise from the use of the increased performance,
increased wear or increased stress on the components.
We only guarantee that the software is without faults and that it will work flawless on the impeccable engine in stock configuration with the improved performance.
We do not provide any kind of warranty for tuning stages with hardware alteration, hardware installation or hardware modification,
regarding any kind of damage that may arise from the use of the increased performance, increased wear or increased stress on the components.
This also includes any damages which may occur after the tuning, to the parts that have been installed or modified by us, provided that there is no evidence that the damage already existed during the tuning.
We only guarantee that the software is without faults and that our hardware is free of material defects at the time of the handover and that they will work flawless on the impeccable engine with our configuration and the improved performance.
All prices are excluding shipping and customs fees.
All prices are including German value added tax (VAT), unless you are eligible to buy without the tax.
Note: All of our tunings are based on 98 octane (RON/ROZ) fuel. You need to use at least 98 octane (RON/ROZ) fuel. (100 octane is good too).
Please note, that in some countries the octane rating is displayed in a different unit like MON / MOZ (98 RON ~ 88 MON) or AKI (98 RON ~ 93 AKI) or PON (98 RON ~ 93 PON).
We might be able to offer our new warranty package, but it is only for RS tuning stage and only if done by us in our shop.
And also only if you get the annual service from us in our shop too. It also depends on the condition of the car.
We need to know more about the condition and mileage and also the vehicle identification number.
We do not provide any parts certificate or technical component report for our software tuning, unless explicitly stated otherwise.
All tunings with hardware modification are intended for “racing sports” and are also sold without a technical component report.
Best regards
Jonas Hummes
Leiter der IT / Internetsupport
POSAIDON GmbH & Co. KG
Fraunhofer-Straße 13
56218 Mülheim-Kärlich
Deutschland / Germany
www.posaidon.de
Telefon
(D) 0800-POSAIDON * |0800-76724366
(D/A/CH) +49 261 921 66 80 0
(international) +49 261 921 66 80 1"
"Thank you for your mail and your interest in our products.
You are interested in our performance improvements for the Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG, w205.
This car has a M177DE40AL engine with 3982 ccm and 350 kW (476 HP) and 650 Nm of torque,
or 375 kW (510 HP) and 700 Nm of torque as C63 S AMG.
If you are interested in our offers for this car, we would need you to send us the vehicle identification number and mileage.
We also need to know where you are from. Especially the bigger stages require a lot of hardware modification.
We do modify the software of the ECU directly (remapping).
All our tunings require a direct software update of the engine control unit.
This applies to any car and any tuning. The ECU software update is always done that way.
We do not use tuning boxes or piggy back units.
We offer pure software tunings / remapping’s, without the need to modify the hardware.
The tuning to 449 kW (611 HP) and 800 Nm costs 2.400-, euro, incl. VAT.
This applies to the S-Version as well as the Non S-Version, since they share the same engine with just a difference in software by Mercedes-Benz.
Our software tuning is very hard to detect, even for the official Mercedes-Benz dealer.
In case Mercedes does a software upgrade of the ECU, the tuning will be lost.
For a service fee, we can restore the tuning.
You do not have to buy the whole tuning again, but we would need to access send the ECU again.
All other tuning options of this engine would include hardware modifications.
I will only give you a short overview, if you are interested in these stages, I can send you more detailed infos.
The tuning to 515 kW (700 HP) and 890 Nm requires new turbo chargers, downpipes and air intake / cooling,
in combination with the software upgrade of the engine controller and transmission controller.
The price is about 19.900,- euro, incl. VAT.
If this is not an S-Model, you would also need an upgrade of the rear differential. This will cost extra.
The tuning to 574 kW (780 HP) and 980 Nm is based on the previous stage and will increase the power even more.
The same hardware modifications are required. The price is 24.900,- euro, incl. VAT.
The tuning stages to 610 kW (830 HP) and 1100 Nm and 647 kW (880 HP) and 1200 Nm
are based on the engine from the E63 S AMG, 213.
The E63 has basically the same engine as the C63 AMG. They are both M177 engines.
However, the difference of the E63 AMG is different key components that would all need an upgrade.
These parts are the pistons, railpumps, manifold, spark plugs and everything the other stages already include.
The price has to be calculated individually. We need the vehicle identification number.
Depending on the stage and options this is expected to be between 50.000,- and 60.000,- € euro.
Additional upgrades for the braking system should also be considered, as well as tires, that can handle the new top speed.
All tunings can include the removal of the Vmax limitation.
Start-Stop Mode can also be deactivated for free on request with every tuning.
All tunings and modifications of the car will affect your warranty.
The electronic remapping of the ECU will only optimize the software.
However, due to the increased power, the stresses and natural wear for all components of the car will increase.
We do not provide any kind of warranty for purely electronic tuning stages, regarding any kind of damage that may arise from the use of the increased performance,
increased wear or increased stress on the components.
We only guarantee that the software is without faults and that it will work flawless on the impeccable engine in stock configuration with the improved performance.
We do not provide any kind of warranty for tuning stages with hardware alteration, hardware installation or hardware modification,
regarding any kind of damage that may arise from the use of the increased performance, increased wear or increased stress on the components.
This also includes any damages which may occur after the tuning, to the parts that have been installed or modified by us, provided that there is no evidence that the damage already existed during the tuning.
We only guarantee that the software is without faults and that our hardware is free of material defects at the time of the handover and that they will work flawless on the impeccable engine with our configuration and the improved performance.
All prices are excluding shipping and customs fees.
All prices are including German value added tax (VAT), unless you are eligible to buy without the tax.
Note: All of our tunings are based on 98 octane (RON/ROZ) fuel. You need to use at least 98 octane (RON/ROZ) fuel. (100 octane is good too).
Please note, that in some countries the octane rating is displayed in a different unit like MON / MOZ (98 RON ~ 88 MON) or AKI (98 RON ~ 93 AKI) or PON (98 RON ~ 93 PON).
We might be able to offer our new warranty package, but it is only for RS tuning stage and only if done by us in our shop.
And also only if you get the annual service from us in our shop too. It also depends on the condition of the car.
We need to know more about the condition and mileage and also the vehicle identification number.
We do not provide any parts certificate or technical component report for our software tuning, unless explicitly stated otherwise.
All tunings with hardware modification are intended for “racing sports” and are also sold without a technical component report.
Best regards
Jonas Hummes
Leiter der IT / Internetsupport
POSAIDON GmbH & Co. KG
Fraunhofer-Straße 13
56218 Mülheim-Kärlich
Deutschland / Germany
www.posaidon.de
Telefon
(D) 0800-POSAIDON * |0800-76724366
(D/A/CH) +49 261 921 66 80 0
(international) +49 261 921 66 80 1"
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2020 s63 amg............2018 e63s amg w213............2017 C63s Coupe W205
Those prices are insane...lol...$2400 for a stage 1 remap and no handheld or dyno is crazy. Even if you went the 700hp+ route, you would not need to spend close to that amount...
SSR catless dps - $1200
Modalworks CAI - $800
Pure900 Turbos - $5500
Tune and dyno - $2000-2500
TCU Tune - $1800
Total - under $12k
Labor to install components if necessary - $300
Complete Total - $15k
So For $5k less you can likely get better components and 700whp (not bhp) and the CAI isnt even necessary for that. (but helps)
I don't know what theyre smoking
SSR catless dps - $1200
Modalworks CAI - $800
Pure900 Turbos - $5500
Tune and dyno - $2000-2500
TCU Tune - $1800
Total - under $12k
Labor to install components if necessary - $300
Complete Total - $15k
So For $5k less you can likely get better components and 700whp (not bhp) and the CAI isnt even necessary for that. (but helps)
I don't know what theyre smoking
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Those prices are insane...lol...$2400 for a stage 1 remap and no handheld or dyno is crazy. Even if you went the 700hp+ route, you would not need to spend close to that amount...
SSR catless dps - $1200
Modalworks CAI - $800
Pure900 Turbos - $5500
Tune and dyno - $2000-2500
TCU Tune - $1800
Total - under $12k
Labor to install components if necessary - $300
Complete Total - $15k
So For $5k less you can likely get better components and 700whp (not bhp) and the CAI isnt even necessary for that. (but helps)
I don't know what theyre smoking
SSR catless dps - $1200
Modalworks CAI - $800
Pure900 Turbos - $5500
Tune and dyno - $2000-2500
TCU Tune - $1800
Total - under $12k
Labor to install components if necessary - $300
Complete Total - $15k
So For $5k less you can likely get better components and 700whp (not bhp) and the CAI isnt even necessary for that. (but helps)
I don't know what theyre smoking
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From: Massachusetts
2020 s63 amg............2018 e63s amg w213............2017 C63s Coupe W205
I think you low ball the labor cost involved? They are in Germany. Even here a DP replacement w/o cutting the OEM is close to $1k labor as you need to drop the tranny....Not sure what labor rate is in Germany but a turbo replacement is probably already a few hours to a day of labor?
