C63s. Quarter mile
05-24-2015, 11:13 PM
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
Remember when breaking 13's was a big big deal... Modded or stock!! Lol
05-24-2015, 11:18 PM
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The GT is running mid to low 11's stock everything
The above is no surprise really after learning from EC that a stock C63S has more power and torque than a tuned new gen M3/4 and we know that stock standard the new M3/4's are capable of almost flat 12's despite slightly less weight on the BMW's, again their times are a reflection of their engines high torque output.
05-24-2015, 11:19 PM
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05-25-2015, 12:43 AM
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The GT is running mid to low 11's stock everything
The above is no surprise really after learning from EC that a stock C63S has more power and torque than a tuned new gen M3/4 and we know that stock standard the new M3/4's are capable of almost flat 12's despite slightly less weight on the BMW's, again their times are a reflection of their engines high torque output.
The above is no surprise really after learning from EC that a stock C63S has more power and torque than a tuned new gen M3/4 and we know that stock standard the new M3/4's are capable of almost flat 12's despite slightly less weight on the BMW's, again their times are a reflection of their engines high torque output.
05-25-2015, 12:50 AM
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Also, this shows what a tune can do. Weistec Stage 3 hit quarter mile in 9.78 with W204
Weistec C63 Stage 3 does 9.78 Seconds in the Quarter Mile! - YouTube
Weistec C63 Stage 3 does 9.78 Seconds in the Quarter Mile! - YouTube
05-25-2015, 03:49 AM
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05-25-2015, 06:37 AM
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C63 507 AMG DA Car #19
I believer bigger turbos in the works at ec.
Also quick question.... Why does the gts flagship make less power than thec63s?
Seems odd. I presume this can be tuned out.
Like the way amg used to limit the percent open of the Tb on certain models.
Also quick question.... Why does the gts flagship make less power than thec63s?
Seems odd. I presume this can be tuned out.
Like the way amg used to limit the percent open of the Tb on certain models.
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05-25-2015, 09:49 AM
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Why does the gts flagship make less power than thec63s?
- 375 kW / 510 PS @ 5500-6250
- 700 Nm @ 1750-4500
GT S:
- 375 kW / 510 PS @ 6250
- 650 Nm @ 1750-4750
GT S seems to be a bit weaker, but there is "AMG DYNAMIC PLUS" package for the GT S:
- 375 kW / 510 PS @ 6000-6500
- 650 Nm @ 1750-5000
So the GT S with the DP package has better numbers for track use. Less peak torque is most likely caused by sacrificing low-rpm torque for medium- and high-rpm torque and power. DCT is not the reason (the only 7-speed transaxle DCT produced by Getrag can handle 750 Nm).
05-25-2015, 11:32 AM
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Bigger turbos ... Down pipes... These are expensive mods... Most won't do this .. Especially the turbos
Most will do just a tune and not reach 10's
In fact jpmbenz said you have to lift the engine up to get to the Ecu at the bottom of the engine... ?no more owners fed ex ing their own ecu's to remntech etc to get it tuned
Most will do just a tune and not reach 10's
In fact jpmbenz said you have to lift the engine up to get to the Ecu at the bottom of the engine... ?no more owners fed ex ing their own ecu's to remntech etc to get it tuned
05-25-2015, 11:49 AM
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We'll see what the pricing is on the turbo's. People were dumping crazy money on the blowers for the old 6.2 L..... to get to the tens. So the market is there IF the performance is there.
I can't wait for some good DA and some mid/low 11's stock.
I can't wait for some good DA and some mid/low 11's stock.
05-25-2015, 11:32 PM
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You may very well be correct with the above, only time will tell how much power can eventually be extracted with the M177 in original hardware spec.
So far it looks like 650+hp at the engine is easily achieved which should result in some quick running numbers, the issue will as always be traction as the power climbs up.
It'll also be very very interesting if all a sudden we do indeed get an AWD C63 variant, you can easily expect an improvement of 0.5sec upwards on 1/4 mile times for any given engine power level compared to same vehicle with RWD only, even with the added weight of the AWD hardware
05-25-2015, 11:41 PM
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C63 S:
- 375 kW / 510 PS @ 5500-6250
- 700 Nm @ 1750-4500
GT S:
- 375 kW / 510 PS @ 6250
- 650 Nm @ 1750-4750
GT S seems to be a bit weaker, but there is "AMG DYNAMIC PLUS" package for the GT S:
- 375 kW / 510 PS @ 6000-6500
- 650 Nm @ 1750-5000
So the GT S with the DP package has better numbers for track use. Less peak torque is most likely caused by sacrificing low-rpm torque for medium- and high-rpm torque and power. DCT is not the reason (the only 7-speed transaxle DCT produced by Getrag can handle 750 Nm).
- 375 kW / 510 PS @ 5500-6250
- 700 Nm @ 1750-4500
GT S:
- 375 kW / 510 PS @ 6250
- 650 Nm @ 1750-4750
GT S seems to be a bit weaker, but there is "AMG DYNAMIC PLUS" package for the GT S:
- 375 kW / 510 PS @ 6000-6500
- 650 Nm @ 1750-5000
So the GT S with the DP package has better numbers for track use. Less peak torque is most likely caused by sacrificing low-rpm torque for medium- and high-rpm torque and power. DCT is not the reason (the only 7-speed transaxle DCT produced by Getrag can handle 750 Nm).
It does look like the M178 in the GT has been specifically tuned with a power and torque curve to fit the vehicle perfectly taking all its other factors into consideration
However if the trans has been built to handle 750nm, there's no way that the OEM set up will go anywhere near that number simply for reliability and longevity purposes, in fact the trans TCU's are programmed to limit the torque running through them and to the rest of the drivetrain that's why there are now numerous TCU remaps/overrides available as well as engine ECU remaps/overrides.
It's the same story across the board for most if not all auto transmissions, the newer the model of vehicle the more so that is.
05-27-2015, 01:03 AM
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05-27-2015, 01:06 AM
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11.78 is strong for the C63 S. I really like these cars. I will be keeping a close eye on these.
9s with downpipes? LoL Jeezus bro, a wee bit optimistic.
9s with downpipes? LoL Jeezus bro, a wee bit optimistic.
05-27-2015, 08:26 PM
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Hey we can DREAM!
Seriously.... I can't wait to see what renn-tech, EC, kleemann, do with this platform. Starting in the mid 11's.... is pretty good place.
In a couple years there will be the crazy ET at all costs people running these cars into the low 10's...... and perhaps 9's. We'll See.
(with more than downpipes.......)
Oh btw... pretty cool to run mid 11's in street trim STOCK... with no goofy icing down the intake, and running tank mount ice buckets, and all that hoopla. A bonifide 11 sec street car that run 11's with your dry cleaning in the backseat with a warranty. Pretty cool if you ask me. No loud *** aftermarket water pumps, no meth injection, no aftermarket blowers, nada, just turn it on and run 11's. My have time changed.
Seriously.... I can't wait to see what renn-tech, EC, kleemann, do with this platform. Starting in the mid 11's.... is pretty good place.
In a couple years there will be the crazy ET at all costs people running these cars into the low 10's...... and perhaps 9's. We'll See.
(with more than downpipes.......)
Oh btw... pretty cool to run mid 11's in street trim STOCK... with no goofy icing down the intake, and running tank mount ice buckets, and all that hoopla. A bonifide 11 sec street car that run 11's with your dry cleaning in the backseat with a warranty. Pretty cool if you ask me. No loud *** aftermarket water pumps, no meth injection, no aftermarket blowers, nada, just turn it on and run 11's. My have time changed.
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05-27-2015, 09:18 PM
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Hey we can DREAM!
Seriously.... I can't wait to see what renn-tech, EC, kleemann, do with this platform. Starting in the mid 11's.... is pretty good place.
In a couple years there will be the crazy ET at all costs people running these cars into the low 10's...... and perhaps 9's. We'll See.
(with more than downpipes.......)
Oh btw... pretty cool to run mid 11's in street trim STOCK... with no goofy icing down the intake, and running tank mount ice buckets, and all that hoopla. A bonifide 11 sec street car that run 11's with your dry cleaning in the backseat with a warranty. Pretty cool if you ask me. No loud *** aftermarket water pumps, no meth injection, no aftermarket blowers, nada, just turn it on and run 11's. My have time changed.
Seriously.... I can't wait to see what renn-tech, EC, kleemann, do with this platform. Starting in the mid 11's.... is pretty good place.
In a couple years there will be the crazy ET at all costs people running these cars into the low 10's...... and perhaps 9's. We'll See.
(with more than downpipes.......)
Oh btw... pretty cool to run mid 11's in street trim STOCK... with no goofy icing down the intake, and running tank mount ice buckets, and all that hoopla. A bonifide 11 sec street car that run 11's with your dry cleaning in the backseat with a warranty. Pretty cool if you ask me. No loud *** aftermarket water pumps, no meth injection, no aftermarket blowers, nada, just turn it on and run 11's. My have time changed.
05-28-2015, 01:41 AM
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Hey we can DREAM!
Seriously.... I can't wait to see what renn-tech, EC, kleemann, do with this platform. Starting in the mid 11's.... is pretty good place.
In a couple years there will be the crazy ET at all costs people running these cars into the low 10's...... and perhaps 9's. We'll See.
(with more than downpipes.......)
Oh btw... pretty cool to run mid 11's in street trim STOCK... with no goofy icing down the intake, and running tank mount ice buckets, and all that hoopla. A bonifide 11 sec street car that run 11's with your dry cleaning in the backseat with a warranty. Pretty cool if you ask me. No loud *** aftermarket water pumps, no meth injection, no aftermarket blowers, nada, just turn it on and run 11's. My have time changed.
Seriously.... I can't wait to see what renn-tech, EC, kleemann, do with this platform. Starting in the mid 11's.... is pretty good place.
In a couple years there will be the crazy ET at all costs people running these cars into the low 10's...... and perhaps 9's. We'll See.
(with more than downpipes.......)
Oh btw... pretty cool to run mid 11's in street trim STOCK... with no goofy icing down the intake, and running tank mount ice buckets, and all that hoopla. A bonifide 11 sec street car that run 11's with your dry cleaning in the backseat with a warranty. Pretty cool if you ask me. No loud *** aftermarket water pumps, no meth injection, no aftermarket blowers, nada, just turn it on and run 11's. My have time changed.
11s is nothing new and its really not that fast now that you got hellcats and E63 S running low 11s and already 10s easily and countless others now. I guess you don't know how many AMG's and other cars have been running 11s since 2003…. You're pretty far behind if you think that it just happened now.
11s is very fast and respectable but, its not ground breaking anymore. That was 12 years ago.
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05-28-2015, 02:43 AM
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11s is nothing new and its really not that fast now that you got hellcats and E63 S running low 11s and already 10s easily and countless others now. I guess you don't know how many AMG's and other cars have been running 11s since 2003…. You're pretty far behind if you think that it just happened now.
11s is very fast and respectable but, its not ground breaking anymore. That was 12 years ago.
11s is very fast and respectable but, its not ground breaking anymore. That was 12 years ago.
While I mostly agree you also have to respect that this was the first run posted with a new car that's probably not broken in yet, no launch control used, at the end of May when its usually hot. Wait until someone gets one running at atco in December with launch control for a glory run that you can compare to previous cars running 11's and adding drag radials will only help with all that torque. I expect this car to hit a 10 with bolt ons, drag radials and a race gas tune especially if run in the north east.
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05-28-2015, 06:30 AM
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Max - Fair enough. If you've been driving an 11 sec car as a daily, it's no big deal to ya. I'm thrilled to join the 11 sec club... and see where this goes!
Ezec -Let's see where this new platform goes.
The real fun will happen when the real car guys get these TT cars after they have depreciated..... and start the serious mods.
Ezec -Let's see where this new platform goes.
The real fun will happen when the real car guys get these TT cars after they have depreciated..... and start the serious mods.
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05-28-2015, 04:40 PM
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11.2@123!
So here is a time slip from today runs.
pc screenshot
some facts:
- Full weight ED1 (pano)
- 3/4 tank
- Tune is not final, there's some headroom left.
- 176lb driver
- 285/35r19 MPSS@23psi
Car has the following:
- Tune
- Custom BMC drop-in filter
video to follow soon.
pc screenshot
some facts:
- Full weight ED1 (pano)
- 3/4 tank
- Tune is not final, there's some headroom left.
- 176lb driver
- 285/35r19 MPSS@23psi
Car has the following:
- Tune
- Custom BMC drop-in filter
video to follow soon.
05-28-2015, 06:04 PM
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So here is a time slip from today runs.
pc screenshot
some facts:
- Full weight ED1 (pano)
- 3/4 tank
- Tune is not final, there's some headroom left.
- 176lb driver
- 285/35r19 MPSS@23psi
Car has the following:
- Tune
- Custom BMC drop-in filter
video to follow soon.
pc screenshot
some facts:
- Full weight ED1 (pano)
- 3/4 tank
- Tune is not final, there's some headroom left.
- 176lb driver
- 285/35r19 MPSS@23psi
Car has the following:
- Tune
- Custom BMC drop-in filter
video to follow soon.
Thanks for sharing. What tune are you running? That ET is incredibly impressive, the trap speed... not so much. That's what I would have expected stock 😕
Can you share the weather conditions, DA, etc?
