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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 07:49 PM
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C63S vs M3 vs VXR8 GTS Shootout

C63S has the most pace here and while close with M3 it's the car they would pick for day to day.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...gts-comparison
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 07:57 PM
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I knew I should have bought the vaux... Vaxha... Vauxha...

Whatever that car is.
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 07:59 PM
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I knew I should have bought the vaux... Vaxha... Vauxha...

Whatever that car is.
It's a rebadged Holden from Australia. It's a cheaper car with a huge engine in it so doesn't have the class inside and out of the German rivals but for the price it's still a great car.
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 08:11 PM
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2015 C63S / 2015 BMW M4
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"The BMW undoubtedly handles more keenly, rides more sweetly and makes better use of the combustive firepower at its disposal.But the C63 is more spectacularly endowed, has much greater charm and richness, greater communicative facets and better high-speed stability. And it makes every mile more memorable than in the BMW."
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Old Jul 12, 2015 | 05:18 AM
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Good review.

And yes we have lots of those GTS's and their Ute equivalents and their Ford counterparts hooning all over the place here in Australia lol
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Old Jul 12, 2015 | 07:37 AM
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Good review.

And yes we have lots of those GTS's and their Ute equivalents and their Ford counterparts hooning all over the place here in Australia lol
I too am a big fan of your saloon versions including the Holden. Come on now we've all heard about Mad Max and his interceptor . What about the movie "Shaker run" with Cliff Robertson. Sorry to go of topic for a bit.
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Old Jul 12, 2015 | 10:19 PM
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I too am a big fan of your saloon versions including the Holden. Come on now we've all heard about Mad Max and his interceptor . What about the movie "Shaker run" with Cliff Robertson. Sorry to go of topic for a bit.
Ah yes the Mad Max movies from yesteryear


I went to a car show decades ago that had the cars used on display, they were mostly just hacked up and modified chassis no particular car type to really distinguish.


They've recently done a remake but haven't seen it yet.


I used to own a HSV Clubsport R8, (VT series 2 model) one of only 2 sedan vehicles I've ever owned, prefer to stick to my favourite car configuration of coupes and prefer either a wagon, SVU or hatch as the 2nd or 3rd practicality car.


Back on topic, mostly the reviews are fairly identical with the main points about performance and handling and seems to be the ongoing trend between these 2 that being the BMW is a little sharper and basically plainer overall, the AMG more powerful, faster and more well and luxuriously appointed - I'll take the AMG thank you
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Not an unsurprising result, but the GTS is still an awesome car.

Here in Australia, the GTS is almost half the price of a C63 or M3. You can see why they sell thousands of them here!
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Not an unsurprising result, but the GTS is still an awesome car.

Here in Australia, the GTS is almost half the price of a C63 or M3. You can see why they sell thousands of them here!

Very true but the ONLY reason why the Holdens/HSV's are cheap compared to the luxury brands is because of the government taxes that are slapped on them...take that 33-38% import tax off and it's a different story.


The reason why I purchased that aforementioned HSV R8 Clubsport VT series 2 was because back then ('99) the Euro brands were out of my price range as you mentioned above, now that I can afford the Euro brands I wouldn't go back to the Holdens/HSV's anyway even if they cost 1/10th as much, they just are not anywhere near the same level all things considered, although buying one as a possible future collectors car may be a good enough reason
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Very true but the ONLY reason why the Holdens/HSV's are cheap compared to the luxury brands is because of the government taxes that are slapped on them...take that 33-38% import tax off and it's a different story.


The reason why I purchased that aforementioned HSV R8 Clubsport VT series 2 was because back then ('99) the Euro brands were out of my price range as you mentioned above, now that I can afford the Euro brands I wouldn't go back to the Holdens/HSV's anyway even if they cost 1/10th as much, they just are not anywhere near the same level all things considered, although buying one as a possible future collectors car may be a good enough reason
Actually the latest model is the first I'd consider to be at a decent standard. First and last. Obviously no Euro but a good cabin overall.

Actually despite the LCT there is still around an AUD 30k profit for the importer of a C63. At least that is about the margin of another luxury brand in Australua on a similarly priced car. Australia is typically 2nd most profitable market behind China for luxury cars.

Anyway a little off topic.
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