Car and Driver July issue
07-24-2015, 10:48 PM
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Car and Driver July issue
My subscription happen to not deliver the July and August issues... And when I asked for back issues, they said they aren't available so they extended my subscription...
Well, on the July one, it appears that they did more article on the C63S. If anyone has it, if you can post whatever they wrote (if it is worth it) and pics that would be awesome.
Meanwhile I am gonna try to find one in the store, but it might be too late...
Well, on the July one, it appears that they did more article on the C63S. If anyone has it, if you can post whatever they wrote (if it is worth it) and pics that would be awesome.
Meanwhile I am gonna try to find one in the store, but it might be too late...
07-25-2015, 02:41 AM
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C63S (Second place)
- Pugnacious V8, composed chassis, five-star interior.
- Spastic transmission, the group's firmest ride, not as butch as the old one.
- A bar bouncer in a tuxedo.
M3 (First place)
- The lightest and leanest, wonderful sensations.
- Loose brakes, less lavish inside than the C63, some fussy controls.
- Exactly what it's supposed to be: a faster German sedan.
"Faster than its power ratings would suggest, the squared up, relatively pragmatic M3 still feels right for this job, even as its competition closes in."
C63S 0-60: 3.9 1/4: 12.1/122mph
M3 0-60 3.8 1/4: 12.2/117mph
- Pugnacious V8, composed chassis, five-star interior.
- Spastic transmission, the group's firmest ride, not as butch as the old one.
- A bar bouncer in a tuxedo.
M3 (First place)
- The lightest and leanest, wonderful sensations.
- Loose brakes, less lavish inside than the C63, some fussy controls.
- Exactly what it's supposed to be: a faster German sedan.
"Faster than its power ratings would suggest, the squared up, relatively pragmatic M3 still feels right for this job, even as its competition closes in."
C63S 0-60: 3.9 1/4: 12.1/122mph
M3 0-60 3.8 1/4: 12.2/117mph
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07-26-2015, 12:49 AM
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Car & Driver has always been, and will always be, in love with the M3.
The margin separating 1st and 2nd place was incredibly close (3-4 points, AFAIK). The F8X is a great platform but I cannot believe those goons at C&D had the C63's tire pressure pumped up past the moon. That had to hurt grip and ride quality.
Motor Trend's upcoming comparo may turn out quite differently.
The margin separating 1st and 2nd place was incredibly close (3-4 points, AFAIK). The F8X is a great platform but I cannot believe those goons at C&D had the C63's tire pressure pumped up past the moon. That had to hurt grip and ride quality.
Motor Trend's upcoming comparo may turn out quite differently.
07-26-2015, 01:34 AM
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Car & Driver has always been, and will always be, in love with the M3.
The margin separating 1st and 2nd place was incredibly close (3-4 points, AFAIK). The F8X is a great platform but I cannot believe those goons at C&D had the C63's tire pressure pumped up past the moon. That had to hurt grip and ride quality.
Motor Trend's upcoming comparo may turn out quite differently.
The margin separating 1st and 2nd place was incredibly close (3-4 points, AFAIK). The F8X is a great platform but I cannot believe those goons at C&D had the C63's tire pressure pumped up past the moon. That had to hurt grip and ride quality.
Motor Trend's upcoming comparo may turn out quite differently.
They said their testing policy made them use the air pressure numbers on the door post. Which is just BS because if they were doing a long term test they would not drive it for 12months at 48 lbs. pressure.
They need some common sense and use the correct pressure.
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07-26-2015, 10:29 AM
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C63S (Second place)
- Pugnacious V8, composed chassis, five-star interior.
- Spastic transmission, the group's firmest ride, not as butch as the old one.
- A bar bouncer in a tuxedo.
M3 (First place)
- The lightest and leanest, wonderful sensations.
- Loose brakes, less lavish inside than the C63, some fussy controls.
- Exactly what it's supposed to be: a faster German sedan.
"Faster than its power ratings would suggest, the squared up, relatively pragmatic M3 still feels right for this job, even as its competition closes in."
C63S 0-60: 3.9 1/4: 12.1/122mph
M3 0-60 3.8 1/4: 12.2/117mph
- Pugnacious V8, composed chassis, five-star interior.
- Spastic transmission, the group's firmest ride, not as butch as the old one.
- A bar bouncer in a tuxedo.
M3 (First place)
- The lightest and leanest, wonderful sensations.
- Loose brakes, less lavish inside than the C63, some fussy controls.
- Exactly what it's supposed to be: a faster German sedan.
"Faster than its power ratings would suggest, the squared up, relatively pragmatic M3 still feels right for this job, even as its competition closes in."
C63S 0-60: 3.9 1/4: 12.1/122mph
M3 0-60 3.8 1/4: 12.2/117mph
07-26-2015, 11:32 AM
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2015 C63S E1; 2016 C450 AMG
This result for the ATS-V is very suspect given that no other test has produced results close to this. In fact the just published MT review clocked the ATS-V at 12.1 @ 116.2.
Thus, several of us suspect that C&D managed to interchange the ATS-V and C63 acceleration results.
The upcoming M&T Best Driver's Car review will also include the ATS-V and C63, so that should give us better insight into handling, acceleration and overall street and track performance.
Thus, several of us suspect that C&D managed to interchange the ATS-V and C63 acceleration results.
The upcoming M&T Best Driver's Car review will also include the ATS-V and C63, so that should give us better insight into handling, acceleration and overall street and track performance.
07-27-2015, 07:18 PM
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I was able to hunt down a copy, thanks for doing all this anyway. One thought that occurred to me is that the drivers they use are professional drivers, I am sure they have a different preference than most of us on cars. And they tested them on a track I assume. Which easily explain why M3 won.
Also, what's the tire pressure debacle... did some searching, seems everyone has a different opinion on this. JP wrote "37 Front/40 Rear." is this different than the sticker?
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-c...-pressure.html
Also, what's the tire pressure debacle... did some searching, seems everyone has a different opinion on this. JP wrote "37 Front/40 Rear." is this different than the sticker?
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-c...-pressure.html
07-27-2015, 11:28 PM
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I think they only won by 2 points and they gave the M3 2 or 3 points for lower price so the C63 would have won if price was not a factor.
They said their testing policy made them use the air pressure numbers on the door post. Which is just BS because if they were doing a long term test they would not drive it for 12months at 48 lbs. pressure.
They need some common sense and use the correct pressure.
They said their testing policy made them use the air pressure numbers on the door post. Which is just BS because if they were doing a long term test they would not drive it for 12months at 48 lbs. pressure.
They need some common sense and use the correct pressure.
07-28-2015, 09:25 PM
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