Sedan Owners any regrets with the coupe being better?
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Sedan Owners any regrets with the coupe being better?
Just curious if anyone regrets their order.. aside from if you need 4 doors, thats different, otherwise coupe seems to be better in every aspect
Looks (subjective)
Performance - wider track - wider tires - new suspension - better gear ratios
Seems like the sedan people got shafted
I would trade mine in next year, but losing about 15k on trade is kinda stupid..
Looks (subjective)
Performance - wider track - wider tires - new suspension - better gear ratios
Seems like the sedan people got shafted
I would trade mine in next year, but losing about 15k on trade is kinda stupid..
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I have a C63S estate (wife's car) and have absolutely no regrets. The Coupe is targeted at a specific segment. As for resale, I was just offered AUD$18k (USD$13k) more than what I paid for it 2 months ago by a car wholesaler so I may end up offloading it. But I would buy the same car, same colour again (only the wait is 8 months now in Australia).
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Just my opinion on this, I would like to think that people who want a sedan are happy with the sedan, people who want a wagon or estate would be happy with their choice as well.
It doesn't make sense to me that a person who has the sedan will now feel shafted because the coupe has certain aspects which are better, that would mean that particular person didn't know what they wanted in the first place or were just too impatient to wait for further variant releases
Coupes are and have always been the ultimate or at least the most sporty and dynamic variant of any vehicle model type to begin with.
Not ever been a problem for me, I've always favoured coupes wanted a coupe C205 from the beginning, my mind and choice is made and personally couldn't care less if the sedan or estate were better, I don't need a work horse or passenger/people carrier hence the coupe it is
Each to his own at the end of the day.
It doesn't make sense to me that a person who has the sedan will now feel shafted because the coupe has certain aspects which are better, that would mean that particular person didn't know what they wanted in the first place or were just too impatient to wait for further variant releases
Coupes are and have always been the ultimate or at least the most sporty and dynamic variant of any vehicle model type to begin with.
Not ever been a problem for me, I've always favoured coupes wanted a coupe C205 from the beginning, my mind and choice is made and personally couldn't care less if the sedan or estate were better, I don't need a work horse or passenger/people carrier hence the coupe it is
Each to his own at the end of the day.
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yep ordered c63s sedan arriving within the week - i wish it were the c63s coupe. coupe will have DCT instead of the MCT - plus i think the coupe will cost a good 15k more, cannot complain. i was thinking of cancelling the order however cannot wait 12 months for the coupe to arrive.
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yep ordered c63s sedan arriving within the week - i wish it were the c63s coupe. coupe will have DCT instead of the MCT - plus i think the coupe will cost a good 15k more, cannot complain. i was thinking of cancelling the order however cannot wait 12 months for the car to arrive.
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DCT may find its way into the sedan during its next face lift - however i do feel shafted. i was always thinking the coupe would be similar to the sedan as was the w204. however if the cost of the new coupe was substantially over priced as was the coupe black series i would not consider the coupe.
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I don't believe that the coupe will get a DCT. According to the official AMG press release, the coupe has the MCT 7 speed transmission which is the same as the sedan.
By the way, after 3 months of driving my E1, I have to say that the transmission has adapted really well and shifts beautifully and is very responsive. It is just a touch slower than the DCT on the M4 I previously owned, but the difference is insignificant. Overall, the improvements in the MCT over the W204 generation are huge. It really is like a different transmission.
On the main topic, I think the real difference between the sedan and coupe is in the suspension which AMG claims it reworked, and in the wheels and tires which are significantly larger on the coupe. Notwithstanding this, I am quite happy with the sedan. I had an M4 coupe and the added convenience of a 4 door car is a big benefit for me since I like to drive my family around in my car. Ultimately, I can likely get a significant measure of the coupe's improved performance just by installing the equivalent larger wheels and tires and perhaps with a bit of suspension work.
Bottom line, even if the coupe had been available when I bought my sedan, I would still have chosen the sedan.
By the way, after 3 months of driving my E1, I have to say that the transmission has adapted really well and shifts beautifully and is very responsive. It is just a touch slower than the DCT on the M4 I previously owned, but the difference is insignificant. Overall, the improvements in the MCT over the W204 generation are huge. It really is like a different transmission.
On the main topic, I think the real difference between the sedan and coupe is in the suspension which AMG claims it reworked, and in the wheels and tires which are significantly larger on the coupe. Notwithstanding this, I am quite happy with the sedan. I had an M4 coupe and the added convenience of a 4 door car is a big benefit for me since I like to drive my family around in my car. Ultimately, I can likely get a significant measure of the coupe's improved performance just by installing the equivalent larger wheels and tires and perhaps with a bit of suspension work.
Bottom line, even if the coupe had been available when I bought my sedan, I would still have chosen the sedan.
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I don't believe that the coupe will get a DCT. According to the official AMG press release, the coupe has the MCT 7 speed transmission which is the same as the sedan.
By the way, after 3 months of driving my E1, I have to say that the transmission has adapted really well and shifts beautifully and is very responsive. It is just a touch slower than the DCT on the M4 I previously owned, but the difference is insignificant. Overall, the improvements in the MCT over the W204 generation are huge. It really is like a different transmission.
On the main topic, I think the real difference between the sedan and coupe is in the suspension which AMG claims it reworked, and in the wheels and tires which are significantly larger on the coupe. Notwithstanding this, I am quite happy with the sedan. I had an M4 coupe and the added convenience of a 4 door car is a big benefit for me since I like to drive my family around in my car. Ultimately, I can likely get a significant measure of the coupe's improved performance just by installing the equivalent larger wheels and tires and perhaps with a bit of suspension work.
Bottom line, even if the coupe had been available when I bought my sedan, I would still have chosen the sedan.
By the way, after 3 months of driving my E1, I have to say that the transmission has adapted really well and shifts beautifully and is very responsive. It is just a touch slower than the DCT on the M4 I previously owned, but the difference is insignificant. Overall, the improvements in the MCT over the W204 generation are huge. It really is like a different transmission.
On the main topic, I think the real difference between the sedan and coupe is in the suspension which AMG claims it reworked, and in the wheels and tires which are significantly larger on the coupe. Notwithstanding this, I am quite happy with the sedan. I had an M4 coupe and the added convenience of a 4 door car is a big benefit for me since I like to drive my family around in my car. Ultimately, I can likely get a significant measure of the coupe's improved performance just by installing the equivalent larger wheels and tires and perhaps with a bit of suspension work.
Bottom line, even if the coupe had been available when I bought my sedan, I would still have chosen the sedan.
mentions it will have DCT
great to hear your enjoying the car. i need some inspiration been feeling depressed. i have been without a car for 6 months been riding my motorbike while waiting for my sedan. plus driving my wifes GOLF has not beed very inspiring. ,, their will always be something better. ill stick with sedan
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mentions it will have DCT
great to hear your enjoying the car. i need some inspiration been feeling depressed. i have been without a car for 6 months been riding my motorbike while waiting for my sedan. plus driving my wifes GOLF has not beed very inspiring. very deflated at the moment waiting over 6 months for the car to arrive also doubling my son to and from soccer in the rain sucks.
mentions it will have DCT
great to hear your enjoying the car. i need some inspiration been feeling depressed. i have been without a car for 6 months been riding my motorbike while waiting for my sedan. plus driving my wifes GOLF has not beed very inspiring. very deflated at the moment waiting over 6 months for the car to arrive also doubling my son to and from soccer in the rain sucks.
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If you read the text below the headline it refers to the transmission as the MCT. Thus, given the other press releases that also refer to it as the MCT and the fact that we were told that the DCT from the GT-S was (a) too expensive; and (b) too large to fit in the C-class, I think it is highly likely that the C coupe will get the same drive train, including transmission, as the sedan.
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If you read the text below the headline it refers to the transmission as the MCT. Thus, given the other press releases that also refer to it as the MCT and the fact that we were told that the DCT from the GT-S was (a) too expensive; and (b) too large to fit in the C-class, I think it is highly likely that the C coupe will get the same drive train, including transmission, as the sedan.
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pre production pics are not the same as what you buy off the lot...... so we'll see.
re getting shafted..... not sure about that one.
I'm enjoying my seat time in the W205 so far. Short of some little issues, it's been a good ride.
I do expect later variants of the W205 to progressively get better and better and FASTER...... although the 09 W204 is just as cool as the 12 W204.... less features.... but in no way a bad car.
At 47 yrs old.... I'm actually not as into the big scoops flares as the younger chaps..... so that doesn't really affect my percieved value equation.
re getting shafted..... not sure about that one.
I'm enjoying my seat time in the W205 so far. Short of some little issues, it's been a good ride.
I do expect later variants of the W205 to progressively get better and better and FASTER...... although the 09 W204 is just as cool as the 12 W204.... less features.... but in no way a bad car.
At 47 yrs old.... I'm actually not as into the big scoops flares as the younger chaps..... so that doesn't really affect my percieved value equation.
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Take the infinity G35 for example, the coupe and the sedan are different beasts, i used to not like the sedan look, but actually after a while it grew on me. And the coupe, it don't think it looks that good anymore.
This is sort of like fashion, something that "wows" usually is short lived, something that is subtle usually either grows or has a lasting look.
I am not saying the coupe is over the top, it is nice regardless, but the sedan is going after a different look/segment. We are really comparing apples to oranges.
As a buyer of the sedan, I do envy the privilege of owning a coupe, but so are there many other cars out there (911gts, boxster, cayman, Q7, tesla, etc...)
This is sort of like fashion, something that "wows" usually is short lived, something that is subtle usually either grows or has a lasting look.
I am not saying the coupe is over the top, it is nice regardless, but the sedan is going after a different look/segment. We are really comparing apples to oranges.
As a buyer of the sedan, I do envy the privilege of owning a coupe, but so are there many other cars out there (911gts, boxster, cayman, Q7, tesla, etc...)
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People who purchased the sedan in April or later while spy pics and talk of the C63 Coupe were circulating should have no reason to regret their decision. At the end of the day, sedans are about practicality -- you have 4 doors and seating for 5. For me personally, if I needed 4 doors, I would have sprung for the wagon since I think looks much better than the sedan -- it's unfortunate it isn't available here.
If you didn't actually need the practicality of the sedan and was just impatient to get into a new C63, then I can see how some people might regret getting the sedan -- especially if they were aware the Coupe was around the corner at the time of their purchase.
Many assumed the Coupe specs would be identical to the sedan as it was with the previous gen... but since the Coupe is significantly different in not only unique suspension, tires/wheels, and gearing, it also has a unique body that is far more differentiated compared to the W205 C63 and the W205 C300/C450's body.
The conversation I had with my salesman after test driving the W205 C63 back in early June revolved around when the Coupe might be coming out... I was so hesitant to put in an order, because I knew I'd kick myself if I purchased the sedan knowing that the Coupe could be revealed by summers end.
If you didn't actually need the practicality of the sedan and was just impatient to get into a new C63, then I can see how some people might regret getting the sedan -- especially if they were aware the Coupe was around the corner at the time of their purchase.
Many assumed the Coupe specs would be identical to the sedan as it was with the previous gen... but since the Coupe is significantly different in not only unique suspension, tires/wheels, and gearing, it also has a unique body that is far more differentiated compared to the W205 C63 and the W205 C300/C450's body.
The conversation I had with my salesman after test driving the W205 C63 back in early June revolved around when the Coupe might be coming out... I was so hesitant to put in an order, because I knew I'd kick myself if I purchased the sedan knowing that the Coupe could be revealed by summers end.
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You are right -- looks are subjective and "being better" is relative. I'm a sedan guy so its certainly not "better" in my view. I think the coupe is a beautiful car but I have zero regrets. The same can be said about the M3 / M4.
Now if they released the coupe with DCT, 550hp, 3500lbs, -- I might have a little envy but nothing at this point.
Now if they released the coupe with DCT, 550hp, 3500lbs, -- I might have a little envy but nothing at this point.
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You are right -- looks are subjective and "being better" is relative. I'm a sedan guy so its certainly not "better" in my view. I think the coupe is a beautiful car but I have zero regrets. The same can be said about the M3 / M4.
Now if they released the coupe with DCT, 550hp, 3500lbs, -- I might have a little envy but nothing at this point.
Now if they released the coupe with DCT, 550hp, 3500lbs, -- I might have a little envy but nothing at this point.
The car still has MCT, a pano equipped car will probably weigh more than mine, and it has the same amount of power that mine did stock.
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I am very happy with my E1 sedan and I love the sedan look better. I have been saying, and still think the side profile of the coupe resembles the Honda Accord's.
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I test drove an edition 1 C63S - looked sharp...definitely would need to drop the coupe and do a wide body kit..considering selling the W204 and switching over to this
