Will there be a W205 C63 Black Series?
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Will there be a W205 C63 Black Series?
If so and it follows the W204 model, then it will be a coupe. Howl would this compare to a base GT or even a GT-S?
Again, if it follows the last generation path, it will be lighter, stiffer and significantly more powerful than the base C63 and likely have no back seat.
Seems like this would overshadow the base GT and give the GT-S some real competition.
Any thoughts?
Again, if it follows the last generation path, it will be lighter, stiffer and significantly more powerful than the base C63 and likely have no back seat.
Seems like this would overshadow the base GT and give the GT-S some real competition.
Any thoughts?
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Black series stand apart so it should not be compared to a different model. Performance should be better then any regular model AMG produces. I'm sure the price will be near a GT(s) as well. Looking forward to the design after the wide stands of the w205 AMG coupe.
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Hers's hoping that there will definitely be a 205 series Black 
BTW it's model prefix designation is C205
In terms of its performance advantage over the "regular" AMG coupe variant/s well that will be something everyone concerned will want to know, the new AMG C63 coupe is already boasting huge credentials and looks like becoming a new segment champion, a BS variant will only push the bar even higher, but I don't think it'll better the AMG GT in terms of which is the more focused outright sports car.
Power is also an interesting one, the previous C204 C63 Black was not significantly more powerful than the regular C63 especially in the torque numbers, but this new 205 series with forced induction can be made to be significantly more powerful, only time will tell as I always say - interesting and exciting times ahead
BTW it's model prefix designation is C205
In terms of its performance advantage over the "regular" AMG coupe variant/s well that will be something everyone concerned will want to know, the new AMG C63 coupe is already boasting huge credentials and looks like becoming a new segment champion, a BS variant will only push the bar even higher, but I don't think it'll better the AMG GT in terms of which is the more focused outright sports car.
Power is also an interesting one, the previous C204 C63 Black was not significantly more powerful than the regular C63 especially in the torque numbers, but this new 205 series with forced induction can be made to be significantly more powerful, only time will tell as I always say - interesting and exciting times ahead
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The only Black Series model that has been officially mentioned by AMG is the GT Black Series and they have been hush hush on that model only saying it is still a few years away from being released. I would assume they would also offer a Black Series version of the new C coupe a couple years after the GT Black Series is released. Don't expect a 4-door Black Series, it will NEVER happen, AMG said so when they released the first Black Series 9 years ago and reiterated that two years ago when the SLS BS was released.
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Here it is... but I don't think this is accurate at all. Wrong fender badge and front bumper looks like a modified C450 Sport.
http://www.carscoops.com/2015/09/rea...s-amg-c63.html
http://www.carscoops.com/2015/09/rea...s-amg-c63.html
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Hers's hoping that there will definitely be a 205 series Black
BTW it's model prefix designation is C205
In terms of its performance advantage over the "regular" AMG coupe variant/s well that will be something everyone concerned will want to know, the new AMG C63 coupe is already boasting huge credentials and looks like becoming a new segment champion, a BS variant will only push the bar even higher, but I don't think it'll better the AMG GT in terms of which is the more focused outright sports car.
Power is also an interesting one, the previous C204 C63 Black was not significantly more powerful than the regular C63 especially in the torque numbers, but this new 205 series with forced induction can be made to be significantly more powerful, only time will tell as I always say - interesting and exciting times ahead
BTW it's model prefix designation is C205
In terms of its performance advantage over the "regular" AMG coupe variant/s well that will be something everyone concerned will want to know, the new AMG C63 coupe is already boasting huge credentials and looks like becoming a new segment champion, a BS variant will only push the bar even higher, but I don't think it'll better the AMG GT in terms of which is the more focused outright sports car.
Power is also an interesting one, the previous C204 C63 Black was not significantly more powerful than the regular C63 especially in the torque numbers, but this new 205 series with forced induction can be made to be significantly more powerful, only time will tell as I always say - interesting and exciting times ahead
Here it is... but I don't think this is accurate at all. Wrong fender badge and front bumper looks like a modified C450 Sport.
http://www.carscoops.com/2015/09/rea...s-amg-c63.html
http://www.carscoops.com/2015/09/rea...s-amg-c63.html
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OP that link probably answers your question
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...exclusive-pics
Clearly BMW aims at the C63 Black Series with this GTS.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...exclusive-pics
Clearly BMW aims at the C63 Black Series with this GTS.
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As we know the new engine is capable of being "jacked up" much higher and much more easily than the M156. Based on this, I suspect a new Black Series would add at least 50 HP and should again remove at least 200 lbs. With those changes and the additional suspension, braking, balance and aero upgrades, I think the Black Series C63 would indeed beat the base GT and at least challenge the GT-S.
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the last C63 black had a way better handling and transmission vs the regular C63.
anyway a black series only comes out when the model is almost at the end of its lifetime so i don't expect a C205 black series before 2019-2020
we still have to get the facelift first
anyway a black series only comes out when the model is almost at the end of its lifetime so i don't expect a C205 black series before 2019-2020
we still have to get the facelift first
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its a statement from AMG btw that black series only come at the end of the cycle (SLK, SL, CLK, C all seem to comfirm that)
ever driven the black series? transmission might be the same on the mechanical level but it reacts much faster
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mid-cycle is impossible as the coupe only came out mid-cycle...
its a statement from AMG btw that black series only come at the end of the cycle (SLK, SL, CLK, C all seem to comfirm that)
ever driven the black series? transmission might be the same on the mechanical level but it reacts much faster
its a statement from AMG btw that black series only come at the end of the cycle (SLK, SL, CLK, C all seem to comfirm that)
ever driven the black series? transmission might be the same on the mechanical level but it reacts much faster
And yes, I have driven a BS. And the MCT transmission is not different in any way to the 'normal' C63 MCT as also found in the FL cars. Not in the mechanics. Or TCU programming. Or speed of shifts. It's a fact.
Back on topic now....
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At the AMG Private Lounge gathering at Laguna Seca this weekend, it was stated that:
1. Black Series are always coupes;
2. Will only happen in the last 2-3 years of a 7 year model cycle.
This was in context of the AMG GT R session.
1. Black Series are always coupes;
2. Will only happen in the last 2-3 years of a 7 year model cycle.
This was in context of the AMG GT R session.
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Anyone think that the new naming convention for the AMG GT is going to trickle down to the C63?
I can totally see a C63 R slotting in between the C63S and the C63 Black Series.
I can totally see a C63 R slotting in between the C63S and the C63 Black Series.
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Here it is... but I don't think this is accurate at all. Wrong fender badge and front bumper looks like a modified C450 Sport.
http://www.carscoops.com/2015/09/rea...s-amg-c63.html
http://www.carscoops.com/2015/09/rea...s-amg-c63.html
this looks nothing close to a BS... and imo, you're right it looks like a modified c450 or more accurately c43
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Since we're talking about a Black Series Coupe here, C205 is correct though W205 refers to the saloon only.
Also as people have said, that rendering is terribly inaccurate. If/when we do see a 205 C63 BS it will have the new front end design that debuted on the GTR.
W205 refers to the saloon only.Also as people have said, that rendering is terribly inaccurate. If/when we do see a 205 C63 BS it will have the new front end design that debuted on the GTR.
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+1 however, i dont get why they have the front grill design on the e63 (from what i observed from the spyshots)
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We'll have to get used to it because that new front grill is going to grace all future AMG's. The S63 Coupe face-lift was spotted with the same. It looks great on the GTR (and actually doesn't look too bad on the E63) but it'll be interesting to see how it translates to other AMG models.
