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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 11:28 PM
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 11:35 AM
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The air boxes are worth the money if you are pushing the car to the max like I am. I did 10.77 @ 129.9 mph 1/4 mile pass this weekend in my Dime built coupe.
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I haven't dyno'd the car yet but I drove this setup for two months with everything minus the CF air boxes, then when i did upgrade the boxes, the high RPM gains were VERY noticeable.
I will dyno with stock boxes and CF Dime boxes eventually and post the results.
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you got some pictures from your air boxes?
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 04:09 PM
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hahahaha alex, this guy might be mentally challenged lmao, of course they're after power gains.
You would be challenged indeed to pony $4000 For a 20 hp/tq blip on a 500hp car from 5500-6500 "PL27".
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 04:11 PM
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You would be challenged indeed to pony $4000 For a 20 hp/tq blip on a 500hp car from 5500-6500 "PL27".
It's not 20hp. It's 25whp = ~30hp.

Once you reach our power level with a Stage 3 (630whp on pump gas, 740hp crank), every bit of extra power helps because we reached the limit. But yes, $4k is expensive, which is why I still don't have them on my car.

If you just started modding your car, your money is better spent on other upgrades.
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG 17GT
You would be challenged indeed to pony $4000 For a 20 hp/tq blip on a 500hp car from 5500-6500 "PL27".
too bad i have the fastest w205 c63 sedan on the east coast
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG 17GT
You would be challenged indeed to pony $4000 For a 20 hp/tq blip on a 500hp car from 5500-6500 "PL27".
also let me know when you finally change the air filters on your car lmao
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 04:20 PM
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It's not 20hp. It's 25whp = ~30hp.

Once you reach our power level with a Stage 3 (630whp on pump gas, 740hp crank), every bit of extra power helps because we reached the limit. But yes, $4k is expensive, which is why I still don't have them on my car.

If you just started modding your car, your money is better spent on other upgrades.
Agreed.

Interested what you will run in the 1/2 mile.
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 04:23 PM
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Agreed.

Interested what you will run in the 1/2 mile.
my friend doug with dime c63 coupes similar mods ran a 166mph in the 1/2 mile
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 04:24 PM
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Agreed.

Interested what you will run in the 1/2 mile.
I ran a 159.89 with a bad tranny at No Fly Zone California a couple of months back. I've been without my car since then. I was making 717whp to the wheels on race gas but the tranny couldn't handle the power. Doug's car ran 166.

I pick up my car again today with a new stock tranny since no bullet proof trannies are available anywhere. All of them are slipping so Steve said I was better off with a new stock one. We'll cap the power at 630whp and see what can be done until a tranny solution comes out.

We're also looking into a 4matic conversion with an AWD MCT tranny swap.
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 04:42 PM
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We're also looking into a 4matic conversion with an AWD MCT tranny swap.
That sounds interesting
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 04:43 PM
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That sounds interesting
Indeed it is. Steve has been very busy lately but it's something we're looking into it. Throw in a c43 front drivetrain and AWD mct tranny from a 5.5l TT (it has more clutches so it handles more power)
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 04:45 PM
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I ran a 159.89 with a bad tranny at No Fly Zone California a couple of months back. I've been without my car since then. I was making 717whp to the wheels on race gas but the tranny couldn't handle the power. Doug's car ran 166.

I pick up my car again today with a new stock tranny since no bullet proof trannies are available anywhere. All of them are slipping so Steve said I was better off with a new stock one. We'll cap the power at 630whp and see what can be done until a tranny solution comes out.

We're also looking into a 4matic conversion with an AWD MCT tranny swap.
Therefore I would pay 4k without any doubt
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Guilty
I ran a 159.89 with a bad tranny at No Fly Zone California a couple of months back. I've been without my car since then. I was making 717whp to the wheels on race gas but the tranny couldn't handle the power. Doug's car ran 166.

I pick up my car again today with a new stock tranny since no bullet proof trannies are available anywhere. All of them are slipping so Steve said I was better off with a new stock one. We'll cap the power at 630whp and see what can be done until a tranny solution comes out.

We're also looking into a 4matic conversion with an AWD MCT tranny swap.
Have you looked into Weistec transmission upgrades?
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 09:16 AM
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Have you looked into Weistec transmission upgrades?
It's junk.
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Originally Posted by Guilty
I ran a 159.89 with a bad tranny at No Fly Zone California a couple of months back. I've been without my car since then. I was making 717whp to the wheels on race gas but the tranny couldn't handle the power. Doug's car ran 166.

I pick up my car again today with a new stock tranny since no bullet proof trannies are available anywhere. All of them are slipping so Steve said I was better off with a new stock one. We'll cap the power at 630whp and see what can be done until a tranny solution comes out.

We're also looking into a 4matic conversion with an AWD MCT tranny swap.
I wonder if you could adapt the new 9speed MCT from new E63??
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 12:11 PM
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I wonder if you could adapt the new 9speed MCT from new E63??
That'll be too expensive and that tranny isn't proven yet. Not to mention all the headache involved
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 01:37 PM
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That'll be too expensive and that tranny isn't proven yet. Not to mention all the headache involved
I bet you could do it for 4K

On current trans, isn't there a way to keep temps down? A guy on GT forum ran a simple heat shield wrap and his temps went down 30-40 degrees.
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 01:39 PM
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I bet you could do it for 4K

On current trans, isn't there a way to keep temps down? A guy on GT forum ran a simple heat shield wrap and his temps went down 30-40 degrees.
I saw that post!

I already have a divorced Dime transmission cooler so my tranny temp isn't a problem. It rarely goes over 200. I will show Steve that thread and ask him what he thinks
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I think the GTs have this problem because the DCT transmission sits in the rear, next to where the exhaust runs.. almost touching at some points. I don't think we have this problem with the MCT?
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I think the GTs have this problem because the DCT transmission sits in the rear, next to where the exhaust runs.. almost touching at some points. I don't think we have this problem with the MCT?
Yes this is correct. The AMG GT exhaust system runs under the torque tube and transmission. The muffler is very close the transmission and the heat gathered by the muffler raises temperatures in the transmission.

AMG tried to mitigate this issue on the AMG GT-R by adding a vent in the rear bumper so heat can channel through.

Although the downpipes do come near the bellhousing of the transmission on the C63, it is standard exhaust routing. I hope this helps.

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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 06:15 PM
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Yes this is correct. The AMG GT exhaust system runs under the torque tube and transmission. The muffler is very close the transmission and the heat gathered by the muffler raises temperatures in the transmission.

AMG tried to mitigate this issue on the AMG GT-R by adding a vent in the rear bumper so heat can channel through.

Although the downpipes do come near the bellhousing of the transmission on the C63, it is standard exhaust routing. I hope this helps.

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Besides airboxes, do you have any plans for GTR upgrades ? The increased turbo size and decreased compression hasn't done much to the torque curve as you are aware at least officially.
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@Guilty: Please create or keep this thread active with your progress cause I really want to invest in one tuner company and Dime is on the top of my list next to Dinan. Hope the transmission part can be solved cause having 700+hp is my goal
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@Guilty: Please create or keep this thread active with your progress cause I really want to invest in one tuner company and Dime is on the top of my list next to Dinan. Hope the transmission part can be solved cause having 700+hp is my goal
Hey,

I already got my car back. I have a new stock tranny in. Power is 630whp = ~740hp so I'm already over 700hp.

If I do get an upgraded AWD MCT tranny, I can safely run 717whp which is about 846hp. The car can only be as strong as its weakest link.

If you're looking to run 740hp safely, you can go ahead and get in touch with Dime. They offer everything you need.

If you're trying to push the envelope (like I did) and try to get to 850hp, you may have to invest big $$$ to get a tranny solution sorted out.

Although Dime does offer built transmissions, Steve was honest with me and he isn't recommending ANY sort of aftermarket upgraded trannies, because they ALL suck. There is simply no good upgraded clutches available. He suggested an AWD MCT swap instead (more clutches, thus more power).

Here is my car's dyno graph on the dyno at 717whp-846crank hp:



My first transmission gave up shortly after that dyno pull.
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Originally Posted by hotdognobun
@Guilty: Please create or keep this thread active with your progress cause I really want to invest in one tuner company and Dime is on the top of my list next to Dinan. Hope the transmission part can be solved cause having 700+hp is my goal
Dinan shouldn't be on your list if you're going for 700+. They're focusing on the larger market of mild bolt ons. Dime is on the bleeding edge.
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