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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 09:57 AM
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What tune are you running?

Now that I think we're at a good pace with tuning on this platform, I thought it would be nice to see who is running what tune so we can all share our thoughts with the community. I think it will especially help members new to the M177 tuning scene.

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1/4 mi time (s):

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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 10:13 AM
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Good thread.
I have been running ACM/DME tune for almost a year now. They are able to do this tune in house(north NJ) so was able to drop my car off in the morning and have a beast back that evening.
have the AWE catback and just installed filters a few weeks ago.
only been to the track a handfull of times in this car. and this is after 17 years of owing AWD cars so i cant launch for crap. before by best time was 12.2 @ 120mph after the tune 11.8 @ 124.7. I usually go out to island raceway which is literally in a corn field that has poor track prep. i have never even gotten under a 2 second 60 foot time. And yes this is all driver error since i cant break the SMASH and go habit from AWD car hahah.
Ran on a Mustang dyno earlier this year and put down 454 HP and 515 TQ
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 11:05 AM
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Whoa... Since when has ACM tuned cars? And AMG's at that haha... good for them, they do great work.
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 11:30 AM
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Tune: OE
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HP/TQ #'s (rwhp/ftlb): no dyno on my exact car but from another: Before (wheel hp/tq) 438/465 After: 525/587
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 12:24 AM
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Tuned by Dime & i'm very happy! Zero issues! 640whp! Be careful of weistec, they originally "tried" to tune my car for downpipes and cracked the chip in the ECU and claimed the ECU was "locked" and i had to buy a new one out of pocket as they didn't take responsibility.
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by PL27
Tuned by Dime & i'm very happy! Zero issues! 640whp! Be careful of weistec, they originally "tried" to tune my car for downpipes and cracked the chip in the ECU and claimed the ECU was "locked" and i had to buy a new one out of pocket as they didn't take responsibility.
Wow that's insane! Can't believe they wouldn't take care of it for you... I expected much more from them -- they should really take better care of their niche market.

Once you guys get your cars tuned, is there any real world data logging? Seems a bit odd to me that there are so many out there tuning their engines and no datalogs... Especially at the high levels of hp you guys are putting out now
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by skim7x
Wow that's insane! Can't believe they wouldn't take care of it for you... I expected much more from them -- they should really take better care of their niche market.

Once you guys get your cars tuned, is there any real world data logging? Seems a bit odd to me that there are so many out there tuning their engines and no datalogs... Especially at the high levels of hp you guys are putting out now
What do you mean by real world Data Logging? Sorry if my question seems dumb, I want to make sure I understand you properly.
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 11:34 AM
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Supporting mods: Filters only
HP/TQ: Embargoed for now, but comparable peaks to other 'Stage 1' solutions. It's the areas under the curves for hp/tq that are outstanding.
1/4: Nothing measured yet.
0-60 via OBDII Bluetooth+Torque app: 3.44.
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by skim7x
Wow that's insane! Can't believe they wouldn't take care of it for you... I expected much more from them -- they should really take better care of their niche market.

Once you guys get your cars tuned, is there any real world data logging? Seems a bit odd to me that there are so many out there tuning their engines and no datalogs... Especially at the high levels of hp you guys are putting out now
Thats because almost all of these tunes are shelf tunes with tons of data logging's already done so the buyers, including me, dont need specific logs on our exact cars. When I do a custom dyno tune, Ill data log to make sure all the measurements are dialed.

Plus you didnt ask for that in the post LOL.
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by skim7x
Wow that's insane! Can't believe they wouldn't take care of it for you... I expected much more from them -- they should really take better care of their niche market.

Once you guys get your cars tuned, is there any real world data logging? Seems a bit odd to me that there are so many out there tuning their engines and no datalogs... Especially at the high levels of hp you guys are putting out now
oh well what can you do, learn from mistakes and move on. they won't be getting my money anymore as i went on a purchased turbos, intercooler, airboxs from another company. In the long run it's their loss.
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 12:22 PM
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Surprised no RennTech tunes? Anybody running with them yet??? Would love to hear from somebody who is.
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by vaelin
Tune: Dinan
Damn dude, we all know you're B-testing Dinan... why you have to rub it in so bad...

Originally Posted by Vic55
Thats because almost all of these tunes are shelf tunes with tons of data logging's already done so the buyers, including me, dont need specific logs on our exact cars. When I do a custom dyno tune, Ill data log to make sure all the measurements are dialed.

Plus you didnt ask for that in the post LOL.
Gotcha, makes sense if they're OTS maps... @guilty I meant when you connect a laptop or other dataloging device to the ECU while making runs (on the road, drag strip, etc) where you can log several parameters for further map adjustments and make sure the tune is running well on the car. But like Vic said, that's usually the case for custom tunes, not for over-the-shelf (OTS) tunes.

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oh well what can you do, learn from mistakes and move on. they won't be getting my money anymore as i went on a purchased turbos, intercooler, airboxs from another company. In the long run it's their loss.
Yeah I'm glad you mentioned that... they're sure as hell off my list for future business.

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Surprised no RennTech tunes? Anybody running with them yet??? Would love to hear from somebody who is.
I'm surprised, too. They're the only tuners that are really "local" to me (about an hour away) and I was considering them at some point. Though I'm straying away from flash tunes just because of warranty and inconvenience in case it gets over-written / updated by the MB stealership during maintenance.
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 01:59 PM
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Oh yes. I do have a custom tune and Steve already did all of that. In matter fact, he just did that again yesterday to make sure the new tranny is running smoothly. But whatever that data is, it looks like Chinese to me so I don't even bother lol.
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by skim7x
Damn dude, we all know you're B-testing Dinan... why you have to rub it in so bad...
lol not intending to, was planning on populating it with numbers once the go-ahead comes from Dinan, so was mostly a placeholder.
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 03:02 PM
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Oh yes. I do have a custom tune and Steve already did all of that. In matter fact, he just did that again yesterday to make sure the new tranny is running smoothly. But whatever that data is, it looks like Chinese to me so I don't even bother lol.
LOL yeah more like the Matrix. Well, probably better have a professional tuner look at those numbers than us anyways.
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 03:08 PM
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lol not intending to, was planning on populating it with numbers once the go-ahead comes from Dinan, so was mostly a placeholder.
Nice, can't wait. I'm holding a virtual billfold of cash waiting for some hard data from them. Still can't believe I'm even thinking about going with piggyback, but it's the only solution that makes sense for me at this moment (ie. without OBDII access)

BTW, what all R&D are they doing with this? Not to undermine all you've done with them, but... I hope they're testing the tune on more than just one car, one engine, for, maybe, a couple thousand miles in one environment (and in one annual season)... Please tell me there's more R&D than just you (once again, don't mean to undermine).
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 03:30 PM
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They are; it's a pretty methodical test. There's a C63S coupe running around, also from this forum, with it. We're putting real miles on it and providing feedback.
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Originally Posted by PL27
Tuned by Dime & i'm very happy! Zero issues! 640whp! Be careful of weistec, they originally "tried" to tune my car for downpipes and cracked the chip in the ECU and claimed the ECU was "locked" and i had to buy a new one out of pocket as they didn't take responsibility.



what supporting mods? besides the dp?
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what supporting mods? besides the dp?
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 08:09 PM
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is dime a flash or piggy?

sorry for noob q's, trying to get back into the Benz game...
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Originally Posted by solekeeper
is dime a flash or piggy?

sorry for noob q's, trying to get back into the Benz game...
ECU Flash.
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 08:23 PM
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is dime a flash or piggy?

sorry for noob q's, trying to get back into the Benz game...
Dime is flash only. What kind of goals are you trying to accomplish tuning the car?
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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 08:37 PM
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Dime is flash only. What kind of goals are you trying to accomplish tuning the car?

Ill be honest, I'm looking into a c63 OR a GT. I'm jus trying to feel out the tuning market for the AMG. I know nothing about it. On the bmw side it's widespread.

This is all depending on if I can get a half decent lease deal. I have someone ready to take over my current lease right now.
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Originally Posted by solekeeper
Ill be honest, I'm looking into a c63 OR a GT. I'm jus trying to feel out the tuning market for the AMG. I know nothing about it. On the bmw side it's widespread.

This is all depending on if I can get a half decent lease deal. I have someone ready to take over my current lease right now.
If you're getting into an AMG trying to make it very fast, stay away. It's very expensive and still not faster than a fully modded M3/M4.

If you're not trying to be the fastest and you just want a good daily that's fast enough, then sure, buy one. A tune only will add about 80hp.
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