Simple Question Help Wanted
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Simple Question Help Wanted
For the few of us who have been having issues after the exhaust or transmission update please give me some feedback to help our case.
If you guys floor it from a stop in 1st gear (sport + or race) ESP off do you get tire spin?
Please post year and model of your car with yes or no and any details you have.
The affected will get no spin and very little power until at least 2,750rpm.
I assume most won't have to test this they'll just know cause I've accidentally got spin with ESP on merging from a stop sign before the update. Also, obviously if you are testing please be safe about it.
Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.
If you guys floor it from a stop in 1st gear (sport + or race) ESP off do you get tire spin?
Please post year and model of your car with yes or no and any details you have.
The affected will get no spin and very little power until at least 2,750rpm.
I assume most won't have to test this they'll just know cause I've accidentally got spin with ESP on merging from a stop sign before the update. Also, obviously if you are testing please be safe about it.
Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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For the few of us who have been having issues after the exhaust or transmission update please give me some feedback to help our case.
If you guys floor it from a stop in 1st gear (sport + or race) ESP off do you get tire spin?
Please post year and model of your car with yes or no and any details you have.
The affected will get no spin and very little power until at least 2,750rpm.
I assume most won't have to test this they'll just know cause I've accidentally got spin with ESP on merging from a stop sign before the update. Also, obviously if you are testing please be safe about it.
Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.
If you guys floor it from a stop in 1st gear (sport + or race) ESP off do you get tire spin?
Please post year and model of your car with yes or no and any details you have.
The affected will get no spin and very little power until at least 2,750rpm.
I assume most won't have to test this they'll just know cause I've accidentally got spin with ESP on merging from a stop sign before the update. Also, obviously if you are testing please be safe about it.
Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.
BTW do you plan to modify your c63s? Dynoing would surely help, I always do a before (stock) when modifying to get a base line, would surely help to see in your case whats going on.
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Just got back lol.
Did 2 dead stop and floor it with out any use of brakes today (wish i videoed it). First attempt was as soon as it was up to operating temp with suspension in sport, engine in sport + and traction control complete off. She hope from first to 2nd and got some of third. Did this again in sport + suspesnion (seems to help stop the hop) and she rosted them from 1st through 3rd, held 3rd for a while. Actaully it was one hell of a burn out
Synopsis:
Mind you my c63s only has 250 miles on her not sure how much of a difference regarding brake in (my guess very little difference). Yes there is a lag when you floor it, they are not NA power so throttle response with turbo's are always not going to be as nice or enjoyable in that aspect. Once the tires brake the torque takes over and she'll roll through some gears. Only other rwd twin turbo car i've owned was a m6 and she had much better throttle response and could burn past 4th gear with ease. You would like the instant throttle and torque of a hellcat, trust me
One things i'm pissed out regarding the C63s is the wheel hope, the last gen c63 never had any issues with wheel hope or at least mine old one didn't. I've read this from other and having it happen myself kind of rubs me the wrong way, just surprised.
Anyway back your whip, do you have the traction control completly off (hold in ESP for a few seconds)?
Did 2 dead stop and floor it with out any use of brakes today (wish i videoed it). First attempt was as soon as it was up to operating temp with suspension in sport, engine in sport + and traction control complete off. She hope from first to 2nd and got some of third. Did this again in sport + suspesnion (seems to help stop the hop) and she rosted them from 1st through 3rd, held 3rd for a while. Actaully it was one hell of a burn out
Synopsis:
Mind you my c63s only has 250 miles on her not sure how much of a difference regarding brake in (my guess very little difference). Yes there is a lag when you floor it, they are not NA power so throttle response with turbo's are always not going to be as nice or enjoyable in that aspect. Once the tires brake the torque takes over and she'll roll through some gears. Only other rwd twin turbo car i've owned was a m6 and she had much better throttle response and could burn past 4th gear with ease. You would like the instant throttle and torque of a hellcat, trust me
One things i'm pissed out regarding the C63s is the wheel hope, the last gen c63 never had any issues with wheel hope or at least mine old one didn't. I've read this from other and having it happen myself kind of rubs me the wrong way, just surprised.
Anyway back your whip, do you have the traction control completly off (hold in ESP for a few seconds)?
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Just got back lol.
Did 2 dead stop and floor it with out any use of brakes today (wish i videoed it). First attempt was as soon as it was up to operating temp with suspension in sport, engine in sport + and traction control complete off. She hope from first to 2nd and got some of third. Did this again in sport + suspesnion (seems to help stop the hop) and she rosted them from 1st through 3rd, held 3rd for a while. Actaully it was one hell of a burn out
Synopsis:
Mind you my c63s only has 250 miles on her not sure how much of a difference regarding brake in (my guess very little difference). Yes there is a lag when you floor it, they are not NA power so throttle response with turbo's are always not going to be as nice or enjoyable in that aspect. Once the tires brake the torque takes over and she'll roll through some gears. Only other rwd twin turbo car i've owned was a m6 and she had much better throttle response and could burn past 4th gear with ease. You would like the instant throttle and torque of a hellcat, trust me
One things i'm pissed out regarding the C63s is the wheel hope, the last gen c63 never had any issues with wheel hope or at least mine old one didn't. I've read this from other and having it happen myself kind of rubs me the wrong way, just surprised.
Anyway back your whip, do you have the traction control completly off (hold in ESP for a few seconds)?
Did 2 dead stop and floor it with out any use of brakes today (wish i videoed it). First attempt was as soon as it was up to operating temp with suspension in sport, engine in sport + and traction control complete off. She hope from first to 2nd and got some of third. Did this again in sport + suspesnion (seems to help stop the hop) and she rosted them from 1st through 3rd, held 3rd for a while. Actaully it was one hell of a burn out
Synopsis:
Mind you my c63s only has 250 miles on her not sure how much of a difference regarding brake in (my guess very little difference). Yes there is a lag when you floor it, they are not NA power so throttle response with turbo's are always not going to be as nice or enjoyable in that aspect. Once the tires brake the torque takes over and she'll roll through some gears. Only other rwd twin turbo car i've owned was a m6 and she had much better throttle response and could burn past 4th gear with ease. You would like the instant throttle and torque of a hellcat, trust me
One things i'm pissed out regarding the C63s is the wheel hope, the last gen c63 never had any issues with wheel hope or at least mine old one didn't. I've read this from other and having it happen myself kind of rubs me the wrong way, just surprised.
Anyway back your whip, do you have the traction control completly off (hold in ESP for a few seconds)?
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Just got back lol.
Did 2 dead stop and floor it with out any use of brakes today (wish i videoed it). First attempt was as soon as it was up to operating temp with suspension in sport, engine in sport + and traction control complete off. She hope from first to 2nd and got some of third. Did this again in sport + suspesnion (seems to help stop the hop) and she rosted them from 1st through 3rd, held 3rd for a while. Actaully it was one hell of a bu
rn out
Synopsis:
Mind you my c63s only has 250 miles on her not sure how much of a difference regarding brake in (my guess very little difference). Yes there is a lag when you floor it, they are not NA power so throttle response with turbo's are always not going to be as nice or enjoyable in that aspect. Once the tires brake the torque takes over and she'll roll through some gears. Only other rwd twin turbo car i've owned was a m6 and she had much better throttle response and could burn past 4th gear with ease. You would like the instant throttle and torque of a hellcat, trust me
One things i'm pissed out regarding the C63s is the wheel hope, the last gen c63 never had any issues with wheel hope or at least mine old one didn't. I've read this from other and having it happen myself kind of rubs me the wrong way, just surprised.
Anyway back your whip, do you have the traction control completly off (hold in ESP for a few seconds)?
Did 2 dead stop and floor it with out any use of brakes today (wish i videoed it). First attempt was as soon as it was up to operating temp with suspension in sport, engine in sport + and traction control complete off. She hope from first to 2nd and got some of third. Did this again in sport + suspesnion (seems to help stop the hop) and she rosted them from 1st through 3rd, held 3rd for a while. Actaully it was one hell of a bu
rn out
Synopsis:
Mind you my c63s only has 250 miles on her not sure how much of a difference regarding brake in (my guess very little difference). Yes there is a lag when you floor it, they are not NA power so throttle response with turbo's are always not going to be as nice or enjoyable in that aspect. Once the tires brake the torque takes over and she'll roll through some gears. Only other rwd twin turbo car i've owned was a m6 and she had much better throttle response and could burn past 4th gear with ease. You would like the instant throttle and torque of a hellcat, trust me
One things i'm pissed out regarding the C63s is the wheel hope, the last gen c63 never had any issues with wheel hope or at least mine old one didn't. I've read this from other and having it happen myself kind of rubs me the wrong way, just surprised.
Anyway back your whip, do you have the traction control completly off (hold in ESP for a few seconds)?
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Just got back lol.
Did 2 dead stop and floor it with out any use of brakes today (wish i videoed it). First attempt was as soon as it was up to operating temp with suspension in sport, engine in sport + and traction control complete off. She hope from first to 2nd and got some of third. Did this again in sport + suspesnion (seems to help stop the hop) and she rosted them from 1st through 3rd, held 3rd for a while. Actaully it was one hell of a burn out
Synopsis:
Mind you my c63s only has 250 miles on her not sure how much of a difference regarding brake in (my guess very little difference). Yes there is a lag when you floor it, they are not NA power so throttle response with turbo's are always not going to be as nice or enjoyable in that aspect. Once the tires brake the torque takes over and she'll roll through some gears. Only other rwd twin turbo car i've owned was a m6 and she had much better throttle response and could burn past 4th gear with ease. You would like the instant throttle and torque of a hellcat, trust me
One things i'm pissed out regarding the C63s is the wheel hope, the last gen c63 never had any issues with wheel hope or at least mine old one didn't. I've read this from other and having it happen myself kind of rubs me the wrong way, just surprised.
Anyway back your whip, do you have the traction control completly off (hold in ESP for a few seconds)?
Did 2 dead stop and floor it with out any use of brakes today (wish i videoed it). First attempt was as soon as it was up to operating temp with suspension in sport, engine in sport + and traction control complete off. She hope from first to 2nd and got some of third. Did this again in sport + suspesnion (seems to help stop the hop) and she rosted them from 1st through 3rd, held 3rd for a while. Actaully it was one hell of a burn out
Synopsis:
Mind you my c63s only has 250 miles on her not sure how much of a difference regarding brake in (my guess very little difference). Yes there is a lag when you floor it, they are not NA power so throttle response with turbo's are always not going to be as nice or enjoyable in that aspect. Once the tires brake the torque takes over and she'll roll through some gears. Only other rwd twin turbo car i've owned was a m6 and she had much better throttle response and could burn past 4th gear with ease. You would like the instant throttle and torque of a hellcat, trust me
One things i'm pissed out regarding the C63s is the wheel hope, the last gen c63 never had any issues with wheel hope or at least mine old one didn't. I've read this from other and having it happen myself kind of rubs me the wrong way, just surprised.
Anyway back your whip, do you have the traction control completly off (hold in ESP for a few seconds)?
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don't remember wasn't paying attention to rpm/boost other then knowing it was about a half a second after flooring her (delay) then away she went.
Have a feeling something is unplugged or something strange is going on with yours like your leaking boost pressure or something.
Have a feeling something is unplugged or something strange is going on with yours like your leaking boost pressure or something.
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Thank you. I appreciate the help. Just hearing more people state this will give me more proof to my dealer that something is not right. That is how my car used to be.
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Originally Posted by Guilty
this thread is stupid. it depends on a lot of factors. first thing that comes to mind is what kind of tires and tread wear.
Watch the boost and gauges for info.
I have brand new tires one size wider than stock.
I used to be able to fishtail with just a throttle tap on a turn.....
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Originally Posted by auditoamg
This has zero to do with tires....
Watch the boost and gauges for info.
I have brand new tires one size wider than stock.
I used to be able to fishtail with just a throttle tap on a turn...
Watch the boost and gauges for info.
I have brand new tires one size wider than stock.
I used to be able to fishtail with just a throttle tap on a turn...
For the few of us who have been having issues after the exhaust or transmission update please give me some feedback to help our case.
If you guys floor it from a stop in 1st gear (sport + or race) ESP off do you get tire spin?
Please post year and model of your car with yes or no and any details you have.
The affected will get no spin and very little power until at least 2,750rpm.
I assume most won't have to test this they'll just know cause I've accidentally got spin with ESP on merging from a stop sign before the update. Also, obviously if you are testing please be safe about it.
Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.
If you guys floor it from a stop in 1st gear (sport + or race) ESP off do you get tire spin?
Please post year and model of your car with yes or no and any details you have.
The affected will get no spin and very little power until at least 2,750rpm.
I assume most won't have to test this they'll just know cause I've accidentally got spin with ESP on merging from a stop sign before the update. Also, obviously if you are testing please be safe about it.
Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.
I am responding to his question and in my opinion, it has everything to do with the tires..... among other things. But yes, sure, I get your point.
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In my opinion if a 500+ ho RWD car can't light up the tires (any tires) with traction control fully off something is wrong. I'm just looking for some evidence from others to help my case since it is a subjective subject.
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Yes! And if you look at our videos at 2,000 rpm there is still NO boost and peak doesn't come in till close to 4K. I don't know how someone can tell us that's normal. Luckily I think at this point we have good evidence to present to the dealer and if they can't fix it evidence to escalate to mercedes AMG
