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BMS Intake installed.
No issues with wrong kit delivery and dirty pipes.
WOW what a difference in sound and performance this intake has made.
Under Bonnet / Engine Temps have dropped by 8% also. Really happy about the drop in temps.
Car has pipes and stage 2 tune with 295/30/19 R888R's on the rears and it wants to break traction now when I did not before.
Took me about 2 hours to install with the help (NOT) of our 4 year old. LOL !
Delivery to Australia took 9 days via UPS.
Got K-Mac front and rear camber kit + rear bush set to install along with Eilbach springs in the quest for traction.
No issues with wrong kit delivery and dirty pipes.
WOW what a difference in sound and performance this intake has made.
Under Bonnet / Engine Temps have dropped by 8% also. Really happy about the drop in temps.
Car has pipes and stage 2 tune with 295/30/19 R888R's on the rears and it wants to break traction now when I did not before.
Took me about 2 hours to install with the help (NOT) of our 4 year old. LOL !
Delivery to Australia took 9 days via UPS.
Got K-Mac front and rear camber kit + rear bush set to install along with Eilbach springs in the quest for traction.
Last edited by blowoff; 10-04-2019 at 12:03 AM.
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Under Bonnet / Engine Temps have dropped by 8% also[/QUOTE]
Not sure how’s that possible with an open air intake but you should be worry about air temp not engine temp. Too high of an air temp will retard timing.
Under Bonnet / Engine Temps have dropped by 8% also[/QUOTE]
Not sure how’s that possible with an open air intake but you should be worry about air temp not engine temp. Too high of an air temp will retard timing.
#205
Today here in North QLD its Warm, 28 degrees.
Drove the car hard for over 30 minutes in sports + engine temps prior to the install would get no higher than 105 degrees and normally sit around that.
After install sat around 92 to 96 degrees and with NO loss of power via retarded timing. Did repeated lorches with same conditions.
About 1 month ago after seeing Zac intakes findings on under bonnet temps when they were testing I took his advice and removed the engine bay seal that fits on the underside of the bonnet when closed, see the above pic. That has helped too.
Make the motor and turbos not work as hard by easy air in (intake) and out (dump pipes and exhaust) and it's a proven winner ! Less restriction.
Klinh from your prior posts we can see your a skeptic and not taking on board anything.
Drove the car hard for over 30 minutes in sports + engine temps prior to the install would get no higher than 105 degrees and normally sit around that.
After install sat around 92 to 96 degrees and with NO loss of power via retarded timing. Did repeated lorches with same conditions.
About 1 month ago after seeing Zac intakes findings on under bonnet temps when they were testing I took his advice and removed the engine bay seal that fits on the underside of the bonnet when closed, see the above pic. That has helped too.
Make the motor and turbos not work as hard by easy air in (intake) and out (dump pipes and exhaust) and it's a proven winner ! Less restriction.
Klinh from your prior posts we can see your a skeptic and not taking on board anything.
Last edited by blowoff; 10-05-2019 at 03:42 PM.
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The pipe design running from the filter to the turbo doesn't appear to be designed for maximum flow. There are too many dirrectional changes in it – from the filter element you have 5 parts: straight pipe, curve #1, 2nd straight pie, curve #2 of a slight radius difference from curve #1, and finally the last straight pipe attached to the turbo. A pipe with one radius, or one constant increase or decrease in the radius, would benefit air flow. Looking back on the photos of the systems installed on this post its interesting to see how different manufacturers addressed this flow path in the design of their pipe.
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2019 Mercedes C63S Cabrio
Today here in North QLD its Warm, 28 degrees.
Drove the car hard for over 30 minutes in sports + engine temps prior to the install would get no higher than 105 degrees and normally sit around that.
After install sat around 92 to 96 degrees and with NO loss of power via retarded timing. Did repeated lorches with same conditions.
About 1 month ago after seeing Zac intakes findings on under bonnet temps when they were testing I took his advice and removed the engine bay seal that fits on the underside of the bonnet when closed, see the above pic. That has helped too.
Make the motor and turbos not work as hard buy easy air in (intake) and out (dump pipes and exhaust) and it's a proven winner ! Less restriction.
Klinh from your prior posts we can see your a skeptic and not taking on board anything.
Drove the car hard for over 30 minutes in sports + engine temps prior to the install would get no higher than 105 degrees and normally sit around that.
After install sat around 92 to 96 degrees and with NO loss of power via retarded timing. Did repeated lorches with same conditions.
About 1 month ago after seeing Zac intakes findings on under bonnet temps when they were testing I took his advice and removed the engine bay seal that fits on the underside of the bonnet when closed, see the above pic. That has helped too.
Make the motor and turbos not work as hard buy easy air in (intake) and out (dump pipes and exhaust) and it's a proven winner ! Less restriction.
Klinh from your prior posts we can see your a skeptic and not taking on board anything.
thanks in advance for any insight
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Air intake temp is totally different the engine temp. Just common sense, how can an open air intake now sucking in hotter air is running cooler the the stock air box without doing any other upgrades like intercooler, methanol sprays... etc?
As for no retarded timing. Did you did the car or based on butt dyno? My friend, timing retard can not feel it with butt dyno unless a major retard with major power lost.
#209
Seal was not in the intake kit. It's the OEM seal to the rear of the engine bay that makes the engine bay air tight using the bonnet. Zac's have good videos on the testing google zaccomposites its on instagram.
I would hold off on getting the adapters, the turbo and blowoff valves sounds (Both) are loud ! and with removing the seal they get + 50% again louder. Even when driving with windows up you can clearly hear both.
I would hold off on getting the adapters, the turbo and blowoff valves sounds (Both) are loud ! and with removing the seal they get + 50% again louder. Even when driving with windows up you can clearly hear both.
Last edited by blowoff; 10-04-2019 at 01:56 AM.
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so removing the engine bay seal reduced oil temperatures?
genuinely curious about this - i'm not sure what the purpose of it would be other than noise reduction and stopping extra crud from getting in. people have been spacing the rear hood latches in the drift world for a long time to get air venting out the rear.
genuinely curious about this - i'm not sure what the purpose of it would be other than noise reduction and stopping extra crud from getting in. people have been spacing the rear hood latches in the drift world for a long time to get air venting out the rear.
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Yes mate and as said before Zac did testing on this using 2 temp probes, see prior post. The engine bay temps dropped a fair bit along with intake temps the down side you get hot wipers.. lol !
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Last edited by blowoff; 10-04-2019 at 06:42 AM.
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so removing the engine bay seal reduced oil temperatures?
genuinely curious about this - i'm not sure what the purpose of it would be other than noise reduction and stopping extra crud from getting in. people have been spacing the rear hood latches in the drift world for a long time to get air venting out the rear.
genuinely curious about this - i'm not sure what the purpose of it would be other than noise reduction and stopping extra crud from getting in. people have been spacing the rear hood latches in the drift world for a long time to get air venting out the rear.
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Yes mate and as said before Zac did testing on this using 2 temp probes, see prior post. The engine bay temps dropped a fair bit along with intake temps the down side you get hot wipers.. lol !
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#216
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Your engine bay might be cooler but your actual engine temp will run hotter, just ask any seasoned track driver. The undertray in place keeps the engine bay as a low pressure zone so that the air actually passes through the radiator and cools efficiently. I suppose your decision depends if you prioritize colder IAT, or cooler water temps
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I just finished installing my JB4 and Intake kit. I'm missing two screws that hold the driver's side heat shield. overall happy with the install.
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Reminds me from the 'Wizard of Oz.'
The Lion - "I do believe in spooks, I do believe in spooks, I do, I do, I do." The Witch - "You'll belive in more than that when I'm finished with you."
The Lion - "I do believe in spooks, I do believe in spooks, I do, I do, I do." The Witch - "You'll belive in more than that when I'm finished with you."
#222
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Ok check these newly released ZAC Composite C63S & GL63S Carbon Fibre intakes out.
Now with an 80mm turbo inlet so ready for those running big turbos and a step down coupler for those still running standard frame turbos.
https://www.zacmotorsport.com/
Now with an 80mm turbo inlet so ready for those running big turbos and a step down coupler for those still running standard frame turbos.
https://www.zacmotorsport.com/
Last edited by RDO247; 10-07-2019 at 04:47 AM.
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Looks nice, but it’s more than double what the BMS costs and I don’t see any benefits over it in terms of heat management. The carbon looks pretty though...
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