Change to Temp gauge
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Change to Temp gauge
Anyone know why the temp gauge below the tach no longer has any numbers?
My 2018 C63S Coupe only has "C" ------------"H"
Looks a little cheap in my opinion
Were 2017's like this?
My 2018 C63S Coupe only has "C" ------------"H"
Looks a little cheap in my opinion
Were 2017's like this?
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All 205s are like this. Electronic variable thermostats kinda make the old number displays obsolete, as the number target changes depending on operating conditions. It would just make more customers come in thinking the car was too hot/cold.
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It appears that all US bound 2018's now come with "C-------H" temp gauge now, but Canada 2018's still get the old numeric gauge.
Can't see why, since all US 2018 base C class cars still come with the numeric gauge
Can't see why, since all US 2018 base C class cars still come with the numeric gauge
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The numbers on the gauge are meaningless anyhow, as the gauge does not actually tell you temperature. It tells you if the temperature is within the correct *range*. Automakers stopped making these gauges report instantaneous temperature a long time ago as customers would complain if the gauge wasn't perfectly in the middle... so now it always sits perfectly in the middle unless something is wrong.
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The numbers on the gauge are meaningless anyhow, as the gauge does not actually tell you temperature. It tells you if the temperature is within the correct *range*. Automakers stopped making these gauges report instantaneous temperature a long time ago as customers would complain if the gauge wasn't perfectly in the middle... so now it always sits perfectly in the middle unless something is wrong.
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Temp guage changes
On my 2018, the level is about 2/3 towards H when warmed up, all the time. That is the exactly the same as the last seven US Mercedes I have had with the numeric temp gauge.
So, the numbers may be meaningless but it doesn't explain why they decided in 2018 to completely eliminate the numbers for 2018 only on AMG products for all US bound cars.
As advised, all other Mercedes 2018 US bound products still have the numeric gauge .
There certainly must be some reason for this.
So, the numbers may be meaningless but it doesn't explain why they decided in 2018 to completely eliminate the numbers for 2018 only on AMG products for all US bound cars.
As advised, all other Mercedes 2018 US bound products still have the numeric gauge .
There certainly must be some reason for this.
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Have you watched the actual values during the run to know that the sensor is seeing higher temps than what the gauge is displaying? I have. It follows very closely.
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I'm glad you agree the gauge is dampened. Of course the sensor sees the real temperatures. Which are processed by a computer for display in an electronic gauge.
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Unless you somehow have a separate thermometer down there measuring the temps, you are getting a dampened reading. All temp gauges on the car that you can look at (coolant, oil, transmission) are dampened. They purposely design each gauge that way because 99.9% of drivers would freak out the first time they saw the fluctuation of the actual real-time temps for each.
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Unless you somehow have a separate thermometer down there measuring the temps, you are getting a dampened reading. All temp gauges on the car that you can look at (coolant, oil, transmission) are dampened. They purposely design each gauge that way because 99.9% of drivers would freak out the first time they saw the fluctuation of the actual real-time temps for each.
If you watch the sensor reading that it feeds to the m/e, and it's the same as what's on the dash within a few degrees, how is it damped?
I know what you're saying, BMW has done this for years, the gauge had absolutely no relevance to actual engine temps. I'm a benz tech, i'm telling you, it's not the same at benz.
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I watch the actual digital temperature in AMG display mode. It displays both the engine and transmission. It also changes from Blue to White once the car warms up.
Anyone else?
Anyone else?
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Of course you are talking about OIL temp --both engine and trans but the other gauge is WATER temp.
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What?
If you watch the sensor reading that it feeds to the m/e, and it's the same as what's on the dash within a few degrees, how is it damped?
I know what you're saying, BMW has done this for years, the gauge had absolutely no relevance to actual engine temps. I'm a benz tech, i'm telling you, it's not the same at benz.
If you watch the sensor reading that it feeds to the m/e, and it's the same as what's on the dash within a few degrees, how is it damped?
I know what you're saying, BMW has done this for years, the gauge had absolutely no relevance to actual engine temps. I'm a benz tech, i'm telling you, it's not the same at benz.
I'm assuming the sensors in our cars are some sort of thermocouple. With each thermocouple, the metals within have to react to the temperature change in order the show that as a change in voltage. That voltage change is then interpreted by another device as a change in temperature. You have two different "dampening" events going on. The first is how quickly the thermocouple reacts and shows a change in voltage, and the second is how quickly the measuring device (computer, multimeter, your eyeballs, etc.) picks up on the change and represents on it's display a change in temperature. Everyone here is talking about the second part of this, and what I said in an earlier post was about the first part.
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Any measuring device, just simply by it's design and how it functions, will always have a delay and/or 'dampening' affect to it. Anyone who has ever taken their temperature when they're sick understands it takes time for the thermometer in your mouth to reach your temperature; it doesn't happen instantly.
I'm assuming the sensors in our cars are some sort of thermocouple. With each thermocouple, the metals within have to react to the temperature change in order the show that as a change in voltage. That voltage change is then interpreted by another device as a change in temperature. You have two different "dampening" events going on. The first is how quickly the thermocouple reacts and shows a change in voltage, and the second is how quickly the measuring device (computer, multimeter, your eyeballs, etc.) picks up on the change and represents on it's display a change in temperature. Everyone here is talking about the second part of this, and what I said in an earlier post was about the first part.
I'm assuming the sensors in our cars are some sort of thermocouple. With each thermocouple, the metals within have to react to the temperature change in order the show that as a change in voltage. That voltage change is then interpreted by another device as a change in temperature. You have two different "dampening" events going on. The first is how quickly the thermocouple reacts and shows a change in voltage, and the second is how quickly the measuring device (computer, multimeter, your eyeballs, etc.) picks up on the change and represents on it's display a change in temperature. Everyone here is talking about the second part of this, and what I said in an earlier post was about the first part.
When I say "actual value", i'm not talking about some theoretical temp that the sensor hasn't seen yet due to the nature of heat transfer. I'm talking about the value present in the computer from the actual sensor. This matches what's displayed on the gauge, despite what the earlier replies were trying to insinuate. That's all there is to it.
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I know all this, i'm trying to figure out how it related to the conversation we were having.
When I say "actual value", i'm not talking about some theoretical temp that the sensor hasn't seen yet due to the nature of heat transfer. I'm talking about the value present in the computer from the actual sensor. This matches what's displayed on the gauge, despite what the earlier replies were trying to insinuate. That's all there is to it.
When I say "actual value", i'm not talking about some theoretical temp that the sensor hasn't seen yet due to the nature of heat transfer. I'm talking about the value present in the computer from the actual sensor. This matches what's displayed on the gauge, despite what the earlier replies were trying to insinuate. That's all there is to it.
