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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 10:18 AM
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Living with a C63 S and 6,6$ per galon 93 gas

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Just ordered a 2019 C63S. I was searching for mpg data for the 9MCT clutch.

As you can see in the title, where i live gas ain’t cheap, and didn t found information on this. Mostly highway real life figures, as i don’t do City traffic.

Found here a lot of usefull info, but not on this subject.

Thanks.

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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 12:59 PM
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You cannot care too about mpg too much when owning a c63s. I am dealing with 7$ per gallon where I live.

I get about 21-22 mpg if I drive normal with a few pulls here and there, so not that bad. Mine is not 2019 with the 9G transmission but I guess it wont differ that much since you cannot hesitate to have a go/pull atleast once everytime you drive. 😃
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 01:36 PM
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You cannot care too about mpg too much when owning a c63s. I am dealing with 7$ per gallon where I live.

I get about 21-22 mpg if I drive normal with a few pulls here and there, so not that bad. Mine is not 2019 with the 9G transmission but I guess it wont differ that much since you cannot hesitate to have a go/pull atleast once everytime you drive. ��
Thanks lovepower1

Its not a question of being worry, i know it wont be good. For now i have a 2016 BMW 340i and i am averaging a little more than 30 Imperial MPG.

Just curious how the 9 transmission behave in highway.

Still have long time to wait until i can collect my C63, and i am reading a lot about it, and i didnt find information about this, as i have about other things.

Nevertheless 22 its pretty good.
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 01:50 PM
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The best source for real-world fuel mileage I've found is Fuelly
E.G., http://www.fuelly.com/car/mercedes-benz/c63_amg_s

From various things I've read (and my own C43/9G-Tronic), the 9G-Tronic is capable of improving fuel mileage by 3-5% over the 7G-Tronic, obviously depending upon the driving conditions.
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 02:23 PM
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Don't expect a significant difference compared to the 7MCT. FWIW, the official figures are unchanged at least here in the USA. Highway for the sedan is still 27 mpg and 26 mpg for the coupe. You need to look at the gear ratios to understand what they have actually done with the extra gears. They mostly spread the ratios. The first 6 gears are now shorter, which will improve acceleration, but reduce mpg. 6th gear is now the 1:1 ratio, whereas before 5th gear was the 1:1 and 6th was already an overdrive gear. 8th gear is now about the same ratio as 7th gear in the old transmission (0.72:1 (9MCT) vs 0.73:1 (7MCT) and 9th gear is slightly lower at 0.6:1. So I suppose if you manage to drive very long distances in 9th gear then you'll see better mpg, but on average it's a wash due to the shorter lower gears. The final drive ratio hasn't changed and is still 3.06:1. In other words, they've made the car slightly faster w/o compromising the existing fuel economy. The official 0-60 times are now 1/10th faster. The coupe is rated at 3.7s now vs 3.8s before.

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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 02:39 PM
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Don't expect a significant difference compared to the 7MCT. FWIW, the official figures are unchanged at least here in the USA. Highway for the sedan is still 27 mpg and 26 mpg for the coupe. You need to look at the gear ratios to understand what they have actually done with the extra gears. They mostly spread the ratios. The first 6 gears are now shorter, which will improve acceleration, but reduce mpg. 6th gear is now the 1:1 ratio, whereas before 5th gear was the 1:1 and 6th was already an overdrive gear. 8th gear is now about the same ratio as 7th gear in the old transmission (0.72:1 (9MCT) vs 0.73:1 (7MCT) and 9th gear is slightly lower at 0.6:1. So I suppose if you manage to drive very long distances in 9th gear then you'll see better mpg, but on average it's a wash due to the shorter lower gears. The final drive ratio hasn't changed and is still 3.06:1.
Thats what i thought, thanks.

And thats why i am asking for highway mpg, because its where we drive more in 9. Cruising must be where the improvement can be noticed.
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 03:58 PM
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Whoa, where are you guys at for $6/7/gallon?! And I thought California was bad. Either, gas milage sucks on the car, but gotta pay to play!
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by amalgam
Whoa, where are you guys at for $6/7/gallon?! And I thought California was bad. Either, gas milage sucks on the car, but gotta pay to play!
it s like that almost over every country in Europe, with a few exceptions
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 04:21 PM
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Whoa, where are you guys at for $6/7/gallon?! And I thought California was bad. Either, gas milage sucks on the car, but gotta pay to play!
You need to travel abroad more. The USA has some of the lowest fuel prices out of all the industrialized nations that don't have government owned oil production. California is at the high end for US prices, but still cheap compared to most other places. Here's a statistic from April 2018 that I quickly found. At the moment, prices seem to be relatively low in Europe, but still close to 2x of what we pay here. Most countries tax fuel heavily, up to 75% is tax in much of Europe. Enjoy while it lasts.

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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 05:02 PM
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Damn... I'm assuming these numbers are for regular octane too?

Never been so glad to live in Texas. $2.00-2.50 for 93 octane here lol.
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 05:12 PM
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Do you want to get seriously happy for living in US???

I m from Portugal, South of Europe.

This C63 Will cost me, with 20% off ( it s a Mercedes small fleet discount ), 123k in US Dollars!!!!! Its like 30/40k more that in US.

But i have more. Do you Know how much is Taxes? 60k. Almost 50%.

Its very sad.
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fjp63amg
Do you want to get seriously happy for living in US???

I m from Portugal, South of Europe.

This C63 Will cost me, with 20% off ( it s a Mercedes small fleet discount ), 123k in US Dollars!!!!! Its like 30/40k more that in US.

But i have more. Do you Know how much is Taxes? 60k. Almost 50%.

Its very sad.

I'm very familiar with the cost of cars in Asia, 2-3x the price. Family is looking at the new G63, $450K US
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 05:30 PM
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Damn... I'm assuming these numbers are for regular octane too?

Never been so glad to live in Texas. $2.00-2.50 for 93 octane here lol.
Yes, should be regular. It's all relative. These taxes go into infrastructure improvements. The USA infrastructure is crumbling and worse than some third-world countries in certain places, while many of the above countries have well maintained roads and a superior transportation infrastructure. It all comes down to priorities and whether you'd rather have cheap gas and crappy roads, or more expensive gas and better roads. There's been a study recently I believe showing that Americans pay much more in car repairs for suspension, damaged tires, broken glass due to the bad roads and debris. Not to mention that many of the bridges are at the brink of collapse or are never ending patchworks. Last week, one of the bridges across the San Francisco Bay here had to be closed for several hours, because concrete from the upper deck was falling on cars below and it wrecked havoc on commuter traffic. Just saying, it costs money to have a world class infrastructure.
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 05:31 PM
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Lifetime average for my C63S is 17 L/100.

Highway is no better than 10.

this is seriously not the car for you if you care even the slightest about mileage. Road trips are more about planning gas station intervals than hotels.
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Yes, should be regular. It's all relative. These taxes go into infrastructure improvements. The USA infrastructure is crumbling and worse than some third-world countries in certain places, while many of the above countries have well maintained roads and a superior transportation infrastructure. It all comes down to priorities and whether you'd rather have cheap gas and crappy roads, or more expensive gas and better roads. There's been a study recently I believe showing that Americans pay much more in car repairs for suspension, damaged tires, broken glass due to the bad roads and debris. Not to mention that many of the bridges are at the brink of collapse or are never ending patchworks. Last week, one of the bridges across the San Francisco Bay here had to be closed for several hours, because concrete from the upper deck was falling on cars below and it wrecked havoc on commuter traffic. Just saying, it costs money to have a world class infrastructure.
well thats the kind of perspective that we don t get about US.

Very interesting post superswiss.
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 06:01 PM
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Lifetime average for my C63S is 17 L/100.

Highway is no better than 10.

this is seriously not the car for you if you care even the slightest about mileage. Road trips are more about planning gas station intervals than hotels.
Not worried, just curious

It Will not be my daily drive, so no problem
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 10:30 PM
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I'm very familiar with the cost of cars in Asia, 2-3x the price. Family is looking at the new G63, $450K US
cheaper than here in SG, 520k USD for the G63...

and 354k USD for the C63s
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by fjp63amg


Not worried, just curious

It Will not be my daily drive, so no problem
I get 12-15 in town but even pushing it on HWY get about 21-22 and easy driving hwy about 24 mpg US
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Old Feb 13, 2019 | 02:35 AM
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cheaper than here in SG, 520k USD for the G63...

and 354k USD for the C63s
Woowww

What a huge price to pay. And i was complaining about the price here!!!

I feel a little better now.
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Old Feb 13, 2019 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by fjp63amg


Woowww

What a huge price to pay. And i was complaining about the price here!!!

I feel a little better now.
Yep, moved to Germany last year, bought my C63s last summer here. MSRP of 128,000 Euro = ~$144,000!!!
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Good roads & infrastructure here in central FL, low gas prices & taxes. In my 25+ years of driving here, never had to replace any component due to bad roads.
Don't let the post above about CA speak for the rest of the US, as CA has it's own share of problems.
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Good roads & infrastructure here in central FL, low gas prices & taxes. In my 25+ years of driving here, never had to replace any component due to bad roads.
Don't let the post above about CA speak for the rest of the US, as CA has it's own share of problems.
Other than the specific example of concrete falling from the bridge, my comment wasn't actually specific to California. The roads here are actually fairly good. Lots of repaving, rebuilding bridges and overpasses has taken place in the last 10 years and the highways are very smooth. Like Florida, we don't have to deal with snow and roads getting ripped up by the snow plows. I used to live in the Midwest before moving to California, dodging potholes especially during the winter and spring before all the roads got patched up again. Bent wheels are common in those parts of the country. The only thing I had to replace around here are windshields from an occasional stone managing to crack it. Transportation infrastructure is more than roads, it includes public transportation such as expansive rail and subway networks.

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Old Feb 13, 2019 | 09:22 PM
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Couple comments from me - UK national living in CA

Firstly, everyone criticizes CA roads, but in my experience they are still better than many in the UK. Crumbling infrastructure? Yeah, some roads aren't great, but overall they tend to be well engineered (constant radius corners are impressive up in the mountains) and relatively smooth. I am impressed how quickly the roads get repaired and resurfaced here though - a whole 12 mile section of a local road was done and painted in 3 days! In the UK that would have been 3 weeks of pain.

Next, economy - I came from a 2012 Porsche Cayenne S, the one with the 4.8 V8. I get better MPG with a 500 BHP AMG than I did with the Porsche! Ok, its marginal around town, but I can easily get 18-20 in mixed driving and a recent run to Sacramento saw 26! Thats US gallons too, so thats really impressive in my book. It was never going to be great, but even in local town driving I rarely see less than 14, not great, but think about what your average older V8 pickup is getting! A friend has a Tahoe SUV and struggles to see more than 18 MPG! I am prepared to 'suffer' the AMG....
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Germany has the autobahn but their roads outside of that are like the ones in the US.. In the UK the taxes are insane and the roads are terrible as has been noted. We have our bad spots in the US with the cold weather cities but in general our major highways are in excellent condition.. We actually rated higher than germany last year for road quality and are in the top 10 in the world for best quality roads. We have issues with bridges no doubt.. We just had a steel beam on lake shore drive in Chicago go out and cause major traffic downtown. Chicago city roads have got to be close to or are the worst in the country. Especially with this winter and the polar vortex. It isn't just the plows but the extreme temperature changes we have had this winter that damage the roads and bridges. The steal beam break was due to the drastic temperature change going from -25f to 45f in a couple days. Im just praying over the next month so the city can get caught up.. This has got to be top 3 worst yers for road conditions in chicagoland. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the worst in my lifetime.
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