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wow, does the 9 speed really help in acceleration after 100kph
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wow, does the 9 speed really help in acceleration after 100kph
Yep, the first 7 gears are all shorter than the old 7 speed.
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wow, does the 9 speed really help in acceleration after 100kph
Not really. A C63S Coupe with MCT 9 is slower 0-155mph than a C63S Wagon with MCT 7. This might be due to the new OPF (filter) in the European version.
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Originally Posted by J.M.G. View Post
Not really. A C63S Coupe with MCT 9 is slower 0-155mph than a C63S Wagon with MCT 7. This might be due to the new OPF (filter) in the European version.

well, my statement was more about how the gears seems to keep the RPMs up, but your point has some validity on instrumented testing.

granted, mercedes claims no loss in power, so its very interesting

2019 c63 sedan sourced here

C/DTEST RESULTS
Zero to 60 mph: 3.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.1 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 13.5 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 18.7 sec
Zero to 170 mph: 27.1 sec
Rolling start, 560 mph: 4.4 sec
Top gear, 3050 mph: 2.6 sec
Top gear, 5070 mph: 2.7 sec
Standing -mile: 11.9 sec
@ 122 mph

2017 c63s coupe linked here

Zero to 60 mph: 3.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 14.0 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 19.6 sec
Zero to 170 mph: 29.7 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.3 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.3 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.6 sec
Standing -mile: 12.0 sec @ 121 mph
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Originally Posted by J.M.G. View Post
Not really. A C63S Coupe with MCT 9 is slower 0-155mph than a C63S Wagon with MCT 7. This might be due to the new OPF (filter) in the European version.
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well, my statement was more about how the gears seems to keep the RPMs up, but your point has some validity on instrumented testing.

granted, mercedes claims no loss in power, so its very interesting

2019 c63 sedan sourced here

C/DTEST RESULTS
Zero to 60 mph: 3.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.1 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 13.5 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 18.7 sec
Zero to 170 mph: 27.1 sec
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 4.4 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.6 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 2.7 sec
Standing -mile: 11.9 sec
@ 122 mph

2017 c63s coupe linked here

Zero to 60 mph: 3.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 14.0 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 19.6 sec
Zero to 170 mph: 29.7 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.3 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.3 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.6 sec
Standing -mile: 12.0 sec @ 121 mph
The numbers so far show that the 2019 is faster. You have the sedan vs coupe numbers here. The coupe is faster than the sedan. I think C/D hasn't tested the coupe yet, but here are the C/D pre-facelift numbers for the C63 S sedan. You can extrapolate the coupe numbers from this based on the 2017 numbers you have above. Put them side-by-side and the improvements are pretty respectable given that the power hasn't changed. For the sedan 1/4 mile went from [email protected] to [email protected] That's 0.3 sec faster. If you extrapolate that to the coupe it should go from [email protected] to about [email protected]???.

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.9 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.1 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 15.9 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.3 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.4 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.8 sec
Standing -mile: 12.2 sec @ 116 mph
Top speed (governor limited, mfr's claim): 180 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 147 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.98 g

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...tested-review/

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The numbers so far show that the 2019 is faster. You have the sedan vs coupe numbers here. The coupe is faster than the sedan. I think C/D hasn't tested the coupe yet, but here are the C/D pre-facelift numbers for the C63 S sedan. You can extrapolate the coupe numbers from this based on the 2017 numbers you have above. Put them side-by-side and the improvements are pretty respectable given that the power hasn't changed. For the sedan 1/4 mile went from [email protected] to [email protected] That's 0.3 sec faster. If you extrapolate that to the coupe it should go from [email protected] to about [email protected]???.

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.9 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.1 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 15.9 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.3 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.4 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.8 sec
Standing -mile: 12.2 sec @ 116 mph
Top speed (governor limited, mfr's claim): 180 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 147 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.98 g

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...tested-review/
i think he meant that more as european pre facelift wagon is faster than a facelift coupe. the difference being a decrease in acceleration attributable to the gas particulate filter information about which can be found here

its made the euro cars quieter (992 specifically as an example comes to mind) vs US / ROW spec, hes speculating that it has made the cars less powerful, which in theory could be possible
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That is my point. The car in the "Supertest" was an European spec car with the gas particulate filter.

Also it is pointless to compare a Coupe with a Sedan, as the Sedan has a way better coefficient of drag (0.32 vs 0.35, = +9%) and is a lot lighter (85kg). We did quite some testing with customer cars on the German Autobahn. The C63 Sedan is quicker as the C63 Coupe from 100km/h (62mph) to XXXkm/h (62mph).
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I would think lots of any .1 or .2 second difference from 0 upwards is due to rear tire widths between the coupe and sedan + the weight.
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