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Old 06-17-2019, 02:27 PM
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how to beat a stock M5

Got chewed up by my friends 2018 BMW M5 today, I have a stock 2018 C63S, how to beat him up?
also, maybe the new cla45amg s is a better platform since it is 4WD?
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Got chewed up by my friends 2018 BMW M5 today, I have a stock 2018 C63S, how to beat him up?
also, maybe the new cla45amg s is a better platform since it is 4WD?
Forget 0-60 times or 1/4 miles times. If you want to look at the true performance potential of a car driven by us mere mortals on the road, you need to focus in on the 1/4 mile trap speed. That is your best indication of how a car will pull.

From the quick Google search of stock M5 trap speeds, they look to be right around 129-130 mph. Your car stock is 120-121 mph stock. That's a huge difference. Even a tuned C63S is only going to trap 125-127 mph (depending on tune and other details).
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Listen, there will always be faster cars and faster drivers. Don't beat yourself up over the fact that your friend and/or his car happen to be faster. You have the car you want, and it's a very cool car. I'm biased, but I happen to think that a C63s is much cooler than an M5 (which is a pretty cool car in its own right).

In 99.95% of actual real-world driving, your vehicle will perform as well or better than his.
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Old 06-17-2019, 04:08 PM
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M5 prob only has that over the C63S.. its faster.. other than that no one would prob even give it a second look on the street but this 'slower' coupe of mine turns heads everywhere it goes.
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The 2018 M5 is a very powerful car. The more comparable car on the Merc side is E63S. A C63S and a M3 would be good comparisons.

Having said that a drag race hardly helps. I'm more a fan of track and rally racing in general which helps demonstrate the overall handling and power delivery capabilities of the cars.

Personally I feel a C63S gets more people's attention than an M3 or M5. Just start and rev the car in Sport+ and see people's heads turn
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M5 prob only has that over the C63S.. its faster.. other than that no one would prob even give it a second look on the street but this 'slower' coupe of mine turns heads everywhere it goes.

C63 coupe is definitely the better looking car.
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In 99.95% of actual real-world driving, your vehicle will perform as well or better than his.
Sorry but I donít think so. It like saying C63s is better then the E63s.


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Originally Posted by w62820616 View Post
Got chewed up by my friends 2018 BMW M5 today, I have a stock 2018 C63S, how to beat him up?
also, maybe the new cla45amg s is a better platform since it is 4WD?
Simple. Just trade it in for the e63s.
Also, cla45 is a great car but a better platform? Come on.
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Simple. Just trade it in for the e63s.
Also, cla45 is a great car but a better platform? Come on.
4WD, light, tuned up to 500hp, maybe a chance ? ...
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CLA45 is a front-biased AWD car. On the track it will definitely have more understeer compared to the oversteer in any RWD or rear-biased AWD cars. It's still a great car nevertheless, but I feel that it's apples to orange comparison if you compare it with a C63S or an M3 or an M5.

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Lmao C&D tested the M5 0-60 at 2.8s and quarter-mi at 10.9s. Our C63’s tuned or no are not even going to touch that car.

This new generation of AWD super sedans is on another level. They’ll embarrass you around a track too.

Try a stage 3 RS3 if all you want is a drag race machine.

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Old 06-18-2019, 09:02 AM
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Coming from a 2018 E63s to a 2019 C63s, itís no surprise the M5 spanked you. However, the C63s is loads more fun to drive than the E63s, so I echo the comments above regarding track driveability. I wanted a smaller car thatís more alive and nimble, this the C63s. Mine happens to be tuned which also helps!
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Lmao C&D tested the M5 0-60 at 2.8s and quarter-mi at 10.9s. Our C63ís tuned or no are not even going to touch that car.

This new generation of AWD super sedans is on another level. Theyíll embarrass you around a track too.

Try a stage 3 RS3 if all you want is a drag race machine.
dsawyer is in the 9's 1/4 mile.. that will SPANK an m5
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Old 06-18-2019, 11:18 AM
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Surprising this guy was the only video that got it to beat the e63s lol.

On another note let a m5 line up against my GLC and I will burst his ego
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Sorry but I donít think so. It like saying C63s is better then the E63s.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hxsBUkm9vBs
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A few have said it; "there will always be faster cars...". I almost bought a new Audi RS5 - it would have been a little quicker. I have a buddy with a new Mustang GT350 - I'm sure it's a bit faster. I looked at a Jag F-Type R. A kid with a souped up Ford Focus RS or Civic Type R can equal or best the C63S. But, this is the car I chose for a variety of reasons - not necessarily 0-60 or 1/4 mile time.

The "cool-factor" is undeniable; today, when leaving the grocery store, three different people said something about the car - including one guy who said "sell me your car - GREAT ride", a guy about my age who almost walked into traffic staring at my car, and a younger guy in a BMW 4-something who gave me a thumbs up.
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Old 06-19-2019, 09:31 AM
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A few have said it; "there will always be faster cars...". I almost bought a new Audi RS5 - it would have been a little quicker. I have a buddy with a new Mustang GT350 - I'm sure it's a bit faster. I looked at a Jag F-Type R. A kid with a souped up Ford Focus RS or Civic Type R can equal or best the C63S. But, this is the car I chose for a variety of reasons - not necessarily 0-60 or 1/4 mile time.

The "cool-factor" is undeniable; today, when leaving the grocery store, three different people said something about the car - including one guy who said "sell me your car - GREAT ride", a guy about my age who almost walked into traffic staring at my car, and a younger guy in a BMW 4-something who gave me a thumbs up.
I got 2 thumbs up yesterday from Audi owners.. lol

The gas station worker loved the color and changes on the facelift. He thought it was an all new car because of the new grill and aero. I said it was the facelift. Every time I go out I have guys giving me compliments. At least 2-3 Audi owners stare and drool and give the thumbs up daily. Slowing traffic down to make sure I know they approve. Lol
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Originally Posted by lyjw88 View Post
Simple. Just trade it in for the e63s.
Also, cla45 is a great car but a better platform? Come on.
Problem is even the e63s gets slapped by the m5. With a 800 dollar JB4, that thing goes to 10.3. While E63s needs turbos and DPs to hit 10.6. Mercedes makes over complicated ECU with a ridiculous amount of nannys.
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I'd rather have a E63 over M5 any day. F90 is the ugliest generation of 5 series ever. I don't care how fast it is.
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Bottom line, you are not beating any M cars in a straightline or curves with their respective AMG counterparts. This is only relevant if you are chasing performance. Experience of actually driving the car, that is completely different.
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Bottom line, you are not beating any M cars in a straightline or curves with their respective AMG counterparts. This is only relevant if you are chasing performance. Experience of actually driving the car, that is completely different.
I agreed when compared apple to apple. Iíve owned many M cars before I switched over to AMG cars the last 20 years because of look.
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Bottom line, you are not beating any M cars in a straightline or curves with their respective AMG counterparts. This is only relevant if you are chasing performance. Experience of actually driving the car, that is completely different.
I beg to differ. The C63S beats the M3 in a straight line, and I have had several real world encounters that support this. In the twisties it may be a different story.

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Just watched the video. How do you not able to get less hp/TQ M3 taking off without wheel spins. 👎 Thatís .5s lost there.

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Surprising this guy was the only video that got it to beat the e63s lol.

On another note let a m5 line up against my GLC and I will burst his ego
Your GLC can beat the new M5? I doubt that unless you have some major mods done.
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Your GLC can beat the new M5? I doubt that unless you have some major mods done.
He has to be modded. On the other hand if new M5 has just a 800 dollar JB4, it can do 10.3 with a high 130mph trap speed. Good luck beating that with a GLC.

I am a AMG fanboy through and through btw. I just noticed a trend that m cars tune way better than amgs at the moment.
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Bottom line, you are not beating any M cars in a straightline or curves with their respective AMG counterparts. This is only relevant if you are chasing performance. Experience of actually driving the car, that is completely different.
Lol, nah. I have no problems against M3/M4s.

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