Should I keep waiting for my C63s or get an M5 Comp?
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Should I keep waiting for my C63s or get an M5 Comp?
I ordered a C63s that's supposed to be here in October, could be December, no one really knows. But my gf just got a BMW M340 and the lease broker we went with has an M5, 120k MSRP for 1,300 a month, 5k due at signing. I test drove one over the weekend to compare and honestly wasn't impressed by the feeling of speed from it. I know it would destroy a C63s in an all out drag race. They are supposed to do 0-60 in 2.8 and run a 10.9 stock. But on the street, when I just wanted to go and stepped on it, it felt super sluggish. It'd drop down to around 4k rpm, then not do much until 5-5.5k. After that it still didn't feel fast. Don't get me wrong, I could tell it was pulling hard. But it was so quiet and smooth it didn't feel as fast as I remember a C63s feeling. Despite this, the interior was nice, much more comfortable and I liked the driving position better. And I could have one this week and still enjoy some of the summer vs... who knows when.
Does anyone have both cars or experience driving both cars for input? I feel like my memory of the C63s drive is getting fuzzy and the M5 was a pretty short drive, maybe it wasn't in the right settings even.
Does anyone have both cars or experience driving both cars for input? I feel like my memory of the C63s drive is getting fuzzy and the M5 was a pretty short drive, maybe it wasn't in the right settings even.
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I ordered a C63s that's supposed to be here in October, could be December, no one really knows. But my gf just got a BMW M340 and the lease broker we went with has an M5, 120k MSRP for 1,300 a month, 5k due at signing. I test drove one over the weekend to compare and honestly wasn't impressed by the feeling of speed from it. I know it would destroy a C63s in an all out drag race. They are supposed to do 0-60 in 2.8 and run a 10.9 stock. But on the street, when I just wanted to go and stepped on it, it felt super sluggish. It'd drop down to around 4k rpm, then not do much until 5-5.5k. After that it still didn't feel fast. Don't get me wrong, I could tell it was pulling hard. But it was so quiet and smooth it didn't feel as fast as I remember a C63s feeling. Despite this, the interior was nice, much more comfortable and I liked the driving position better. And I could have one this week and still enjoy some of the summer vs... who knows when.
Does anyone have both cars or experience driving both cars for input? I feel like my memory of the C63s drive is getting fuzzy and the M5 was a pretty short drive, maybe it wasn't in the right settings even.
Does anyone have both cars or experience driving both cars for input? I feel like my memory of the C63s drive is getting fuzzy and the M5 was a pretty short drive, maybe it wasn't in the right settings even.
The new M5 is so UGLY !!!
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W205 C63s
Taste is personal but there is something that just doesn’t gel with M5 In looks.
It actually looks very large. My brother has one and it looks massive compared to a C63. It even look big parked next to a e63 even though they are the same size.
It is a very fast car but lacks emotion.
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I test drove an F10 M5 (2016) the other week, thinking I would replace the C63S with it. Here’s a summary of my opinions:
1) I thought the car would ride a little softer. Nope. Vibrations everywhere. Steering wheel was high frequency vibrations all over, very annoying. I blame run flats for a lot of that. Fixable, but not convinced it would go away entirely.
2) I wanted a car with a little more space. The M5 gave me more space up front, by sacrificing rear legroom. I’m 6’ 1” and I set my drivers seat, conservatively, and hopped in behind me. I had to sit with my legs spread eagle! The backs of the front seats are SO thick that it eats into the rear leg room. It was not usable for me. My C63S has more usable legroom!
3) I agree with you on speed. Obviously it is actually faster than the C63S. But it sure takes a lot of work to get it to be, and doesn’t feel like it even when it is. Very lethargic, even in the sportiest of all settings on engine and shifting.
I thought the M5 would be a comfortable monster. Not so. It was opposite - a harsh, lethargic boat.
Moral of the story is don’t meet your heroes.
(flame suit on, since I’m speaking negatively of the industry’s golden child)
1) I thought the car would ride a little softer. Nope. Vibrations everywhere. Steering wheel was high frequency vibrations all over, very annoying. I blame run flats for a lot of that. Fixable, but not convinced it would go away entirely.
2) I wanted a car with a little more space. The M5 gave me more space up front, by sacrificing rear legroom. I’m 6’ 1” and I set my drivers seat, conservatively, and hopped in behind me. I had to sit with my legs spread eagle! The backs of the front seats are SO thick that it eats into the rear leg room. It was not usable for me. My C63S has more usable legroom!
3) I agree with you on speed. Obviously it is actually faster than the C63S. But it sure takes a lot of work to get it to be, and doesn’t feel like it even when it is. Very lethargic, even in the sportiest of all settings on engine and shifting.
I thought the M5 would be a comfortable monster. Not so. It was opposite - a harsh, lethargic boat.
Moral of the story is don’t meet your heroes.
(flame suit on, since I’m speaking negatively of the industry’s golden child)
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if you want to go fast in something that will get that adrenaline pumping while the exhaust tells everyone to get out of the way get the C63... if you want to go faster but in a boring car that wont even get a second look on the street then you can get a M5
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I wouldn't say the M5 is ugly, it just doesn't have that sexy coupe look!
The M5 definitely has a performance advantage over the C63, but lacks the emotion in looks IMO.
If the E63S was offered in a coupe with the same sexiness of the C63, I would have purchased one in an instant!
The M5 definitely has a performance advantage over the C63, but lacks the emotion in looks IMO.
If the E63S was offered in a coupe with the same sexiness of the C63, I would have purchased one in an instant!
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I ordered a C63s that's supposed to be here in October, could be December, no one really knows. But my gf just got a BMW M340 and the lease broker we went with has an M5, 120k MSRP for 1,300 a month, 5k due at signing. I test drove one over the weekend to compare and honestly wasn't impressed by the feeling of speed from it. I know it would destroy a C63s in an all out drag race. They are supposed to do 0-60 in 2.8 and run a 10.9 stock. But on the street, when I just wanted to go and stepped on it, it felt super sluggish. It'd drop down to around 4k rpm, then not do much until 5-5.5k. After that it still didn't feel fast. Don't get me wrong, I could tell it was pulling hard. But it was so quiet and smooth it didn't feel as fast as I remember a C63s feeling. Despite this, the interior was nice, much more comfortable and I liked the driving position better. And I could have one this week and still enjoy some of the summer vs... who knows when.
Does anyone have both cars or experience driving both cars for input? I feel like my memory of the C63s drive is getting fuzzy and the M5 was a pretty short drive, maybe it wasn't in the right settings even.
Does anyone have both cars or experience driving both cars for input? I feel like my memory of the C63s drive is getting fuzzy and the M5 was a pretty short drive, maybe it wasn't in the right settings even.
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I test drove an F10 M5 (2016) the other week, thinking I would replace the C63S with it. Here’s a summary of my opinions:
1) I thought the car would ride a little softer. Nope. Vibrations everywhere. Steering wheel was high frequency vibrations all over, very annoying. I blame run flats for a lot of that. Fixable, but not convinced it would go away entirely.
2) I wanted a car with a little more space. The M5 gave me more space up front, by sacrificing rear legroom. I’m 6’ 1” and I set my drivers seat, conservatively, and hopped in behind me. I had to sit with my legs spread eagle! The backs of the front seats are SO thick that it eats into the rear leg room. It was not usable for me. My C63S has more usable legroom!
3) I agree with you on speed. Obviously it is actually faster than the C63S. But it sure takes a lot of work to get it to be, and doesn’t feel like it even when it is. Very lethargic, even in the sportiest of all settings on engine and shifting.
I thought the M5 would be a comfortable monster. Not so. It was opposite - a harsh, lethargic boat.
Moral of the story is don’t meet your heroes.
(flame suit on, since I’m speaking negatively of the industry’s golden child)
1) I thought the car would ride a little softer. Nope. Vibrations everywhere. Steering wheel was high frequency vibrations all over, very annoying. I blame run flats for a lot of that. Fixable, but not convinced it would go away entirely.
2) I wanted a car with a little more space. The M5 gave me more space up front, by sacrificing rear legroom. I’m 6’ 1” and I set my drivers seat, conservatively, and hopped in behind me. I had to sit with my legs spread eagle! The backs of the front seats are SO thick that it eats into the rear leg room. It was not usable for me. My C63S has more usable legroom!
3) I agree with you on speed. Obviously it is actually faster than the C63S. But it sure takes a lot of work to get it to be, and doesn’t feel like it even when it is. Very lethargic, even in the sportiest of all settings on engine and shifting.
I thought the M5 would be a comfortable monster. Not so. It was opposite - a harsh, lethargic boat.
Moral of the story is don’t meet your heroes.
(flame suit on, since I’m speaking negatively of the industry’s golden child)
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The M5 is $500 per month less expensive to lease lol. So I'm comparing them. Anyways, I've decided to stick with the C63s order after having my thoughts on the M5 confirmed. Part of me was hoping I was wrong because I want to get a car now, but I'll wait.
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$500 less now that is a deal, I actually love the new M5s look. But for 500 less I would HIGHLY consider the M5 Competition. I personally think you may be wrong. The previous owner of my w204 c63 said he test drove the new w205 c63, f90 m5 Competition (which he bought), w213 e63, and he said in terms of performance it wasn't even close (in favor of the m5 Competition). Those V8s do sound weird but when he put it in sport or race mode whichever mode that opens up the flaps that thing was LOUD. But more of a raspy loud rather than a low roar like the c63s.
For 500 less though lol, go back to a dealer and drive the c63 and then drive the m5 back to back.
Last edited by thebug44; Aug 5, 2019 at 03:16 PM.
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I ordered a C63s that's supposed to be here in October, could be December, no one really knows. But my gf just got a BMW M340 and the lease broker we went with has an M5, 120k MSRP for 1,300 a month, 5k due at signing. I test drove one over the weekend to compare and honestly wasn't impressed by the feeling of speed from it. I know it would destroy a C63s in an all out drag race. They are supposed to do 0-60 in 2.8 and run a 10.9 stock. But on the street, when I just wanted to go and stepped on it, it felt super sluggish. It'd drop down to around 4k rpm, then not do much until 5-5.5k. After that it still didn't feel fast. Don't get me wrong, I could tell it was pulling hard. But it was so quiet and smooth it didn't feel as fast as I remember a C63s feeling. Despite this, the interior was nice, much more comfortable and I liked the driving position better. And I could have one this week and still enjoy some of the summer vs... who knows when.
Does anyone have both cars or experience driving both cars for input? I feel like my memory of the C63s drive is getting fuzzy and the M5 was a pretty short drive, maybe it wasn't in the right settings even.
Does anyone have both cars or experience driving both cars for input? I feel like my memory of the C63s drive is getting fuzzy and the M5 was a pretty short drive, maybe it wasn't in the right settings even.
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EDIT: Is it the M5 or the M5 Competition?
$500 less now that is a deal, I actually love the new M5s look. But for 500 less I would HIGHLY consider the M5 Competition. I personally think you may be wrong. The previous owner of my w204 c63 said he test drove the new w205 c63, f90 m5 Competition (which he bought), w213 e63, and he said in terms of performance it wasn't even close (in favor of the m5 Competition). Those V8s do sound weird but when he put it in sport or race mode whichever mode that opens up the flaps that thing was LOUD. But more of a raspy loud rather than a low roar like the c63s.
For 500 less though lol, go back to a dealer and drive the c63 and then drive the m5 back to back.
$500 less now that is a deal, I actually love the new M5s look. But for 500 less I would HIGHLY consider the M5 Competition. I personally think you may be wrong. The previous owner of my w204 c63 said he test drove the new w205 c63, f90 m5 Competition (which he bought), w213 e63, and he said in terms of performance it wasn't even close (in favor of the m5 Competition). Those V8s do sound weird but when he put it in sport or race mode whichever mode that opens up the flaps that thing was LOUD. But more of a raspy loud rather than a low roar like the c63s.
For 500 less though lol, go back to a dealer and drive the c63 and then drive the m5 back to back.
The one I test drove was an M5 competition. There's not really any difference in terms of power between the two. I think 25hp. Unnoticeable when you're already over 600.
The broker had another base M5 for 1,155 a month and a comp for 1,275 I believe. I was quoted such an outrageous amount to lease the C63s that I'll finance it and the payments will be around 1,100 with a good amount down. After doing some math today though, the M5 doesn't make as much sense. The insurance is 120 a month more than the C63s. So adding it all up with tax the M5 would be $60,400 for 3 years. That's a lot more than the C63 will depreciate, especially if this is the last gen with a V8.
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The M5 is a monster, but much like the E63s it's just a fast boat. Neither one invokes any feeling that you're driving something special when driven spiritedly. Both will kill a C63 in any race, but as you grow older you realize speed isn't everything. I'd rather have a car with tons of character, and one that puts a **** eating grin on my face in every corner than just some fast couch that can do 10s in a straight line.
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The M5 is a monster, but much like the E63s it's just a fast boat. Neither one invokes any feeling that you're driving something special when driven spiritedly. Both will kill a C63 in any race, but as you grow older you realize speed isn't everything. I'd rather have a car with tons of character, and one that puts a **** eating grin on my face in every corner than just some fast couch that can do 10s in a straight line.
