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Old 02-06-2020, 09:10 AM
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Thanks deftronix. I may go that route as I am going to run the H&R static springs as you mentioned above. I do not track the car, but it is my daily driver, so i would rather my tires not need to be replaced everything 5k miles like others on this forum are saying will happen if i do not address the camber issue.

I appreciate all the help and information.

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For the C63S we really do manufacture a “TOTAL SYSTEM” see below Street (to Full Race – in the pursuit of front row of the grid lap times)


1. Would suggest the Front upper wishbone / inner bush kit (#503316-2 J $380 for full set of 4).

Provides precise Camber and also Caster adjustment. Up to 1.5 degrees Positive or Negative. More than enough to resolve tire wear issues the inaccurate - (one offset position fluted bolts which are not available for the C63 only offer 0.3 of one degree 1/8 inch).
Can install kit without the need to remove the upper arms (bush extraction tool included).
Plus the peace of mind, security of not needing welded, fabricated arms.

2. As above but “Replacement Arms” offering 2.5 degrees Camber and Caster. High strength forged alloy same design as OEM (pair) #503316-3 N $695.

3. Front lower arm Camber and Caster bushings (replacing the 4 highest wearing). Precise single wrench adjustable. Camber up to 1.5 degrees Pos or Neg while the forward facing thrust arm (Caster) bushings are also Mono ball/2 Axis. Significantly improving brake and steering response. KMAC design allows more than twice the load bearing area of spherical bearings that soon pound out. Bush extraction tools included (Full set of 4) #503316K $480

4. REAR – Camber (and extra Toe to compensate) bushings. Up to 1.5 degrees Pos. or Neg. Kit replaces the “lower arm” inner bushes retaining important top of tire to outer fender clearance when wanting to reduce costly, premature inner edge wear.
Or Race days – easy access / single wrench adjustment to alter Camber settings and / or track width. Bush extraction tool included #502226 K $480

5. REAR – Popular uprated bushing kit for the ‘6’ rear multi link arms. Less twitch, flex, loss of traction. Especially when applying power to lane change / overtake #502628 K $480

​​​​​​$2.5 K !!

....only need one, not 3 kits for front and also only one kit for rear

To acquire “full adjustability” - other than Toe.

As set out in the previous W205 full listing above:

# 1. 503316-2K Complete front adjustment kit. Easy install (Precise Camber and also Caster) Total outlay $380

# 4. 502226 K Rear Camber (and Extra Toe) adjustment kit $480

Both kits designed so no special tools required to install.

Have attached pics of all 5 kits.

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Old 02-06-2020, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by selenite_C63s
Thanks deftronix. I may go that route as I am going to run the H&R static springs as you mentioned above. I do not track the car, but it is my daily driver, so i would rather my tires not need to be replaced everything 5k miles like others on this forum are saying will happen if i do not address the camber issue.
I appreciate all the help and information.
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No prob! 0.8"F&R is a perfect drop, keep us in the loop. Wish the VTF springs didnt start minus 1.2" in the rears but very curious to find out what the 2 stage springs on the VTF's will do for the ride quality since no other static or adjustable kit go this route on all 4 corners otherwise I would have gone with the same springs you are. Love your choice in color btw.

People going through tires in 5k miles are doing more than running slightly out of spec toe & camber. Probably running sport cup 2's and have a very heavy lead foot with a V8 biturbo behind it mixed in with a track day or two . In the past, I've run at most a - 4.2 degree camber and still got 10-15k out of low profile / stretched tires on 20"s. This was on another car with less power however. Went through many sets but never came close to that low of a mileage, I think it's a bit exaggerated.

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​​​​​​$2.5 K !!

....only need one, not 3 kits for front and also only one kit for rear

To acquire “full adjustability” - other than Toe.

As set out in the previous W205 full listing above:

# 1. 503316-2K Complete front adjustment kit. Easy install (Precise Camber and also Caster) Total outlay $380

# 4. 503316-2K Rear Camber (and Extra Toe) adjustment kit $480

Both kits designed so no special tools required to install.

Have attached pics of all 5 kits.

Kevin
Much appreciate the clarification Kevin, that is a relief. Couldn't quite tell by the descriptors but the pics help. Thanks again
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Hey have you put the H&R's on your car yet? I'm curious to see how low it drops the car on stock wheels.
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Yeah I will post some pictures later this week, or early next when I get home!
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Threw on the H&R Sport springs this Sunday and wanted to post initial thoughts. Please note, I've only driven about 5 miles so far. Ride, better than stock springs in Comfort setting, noticeably. Have not tried in other settings yet, but not really concerned about more comfort when I need sport and sport +. Drop, perfect if you ask me and I know this is subjective. Zero noise so far with full left and right steering input. Note, I also have 15mm H&R spacers with the stock 285 rears. I'm beyond positive that I can easily get 295's on there with No rubbing and even wider if I go with smaller spacer. Take your time and make sure each spring seat is 100% correct and I think any/everyone might like this mod. Super cheap too if you install your self. Please disregard the Georgia pollen covering everything!
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I ended up getting H&R VTF and K MAC front bushings. Without the bushings, your camber will be all over the place.
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Yes, gonna let spring settle and then investigate KMac. You can see the camber but that was no surprise. Rides perfectly straight with no pull and just feels nice. So far not in a rush to do alignment or anything else. I purposely did this project with the tires having only about 2K left in mileage so I could test everything out and make the right decisions before putting on new rubber.
Can you share which KMac solution you went with? Did you install, or if a shop, did they have any issues? Thanks
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I did the bushing kit, they also offer another route, can't remember. Had shop install bushing kit and VTF kit. No issues, just a slightly harsher ride. I had springs before but did not like the reverse rake. The picture up top is a great rake/stance. Maybe it is different for coupes.
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Amazingly I just saw that KMac is having a sale til April 3! 25% off so I just snagged the front and rear kit for about $640! Pumped as that is a great price. Will update as I progress further
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Finally got the H&R springs on. Also went with the KMAC kit.
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