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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 04:38 PM
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I took my 2015 c63s to a track day yesterday. Before I started pushing very hard at all, I had cylinders dropping out and engine light on. These would reset after a shutdown of the car however it continued throughout the whole day. Very frustrating when on a good lap and more frequent when over 5000 revs.

I spoke with Mercedes whilst there and a mechanic advised the coils over heat and can cause misfires. I logged into car with a another track attendees adapter and there were multiple misfires on almost every cylinder.

anyone else ever had this? This car is supposed to be able to handle the odd track day without too much trouble I would think so I’m pretty disappointed. I can’t see any reference to this problem in w205 forums.

Apparently is quite common according to some people at track (a guy who had been to many Mercedes drive days) and one suggested an local AMG tuner that could basically retune and program the limp mode out. Thoughts.?
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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 06:29 PM
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Is your car stock or tuned? How many miles on the spark plugs?
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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PPS4Ever
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I took my 2015 c63s to a track day yesterday. Before I started pushing very hard at all, I had cylinders dropping out and engine light on. These would reset after a shutdown of the car however it continued throughout the whole day. Very frustrating when on a good lap and more frequent when over 5000 revs.

I spoke with Mercedes whilst there and a mechanic advised the coils over heat and can cause misfires. I logged into car with a another track attendees adapter and there were multiple misfires on almost every cylinder.

anyone else ever had this? This car is supposed to be able to handle the odd track day without too much trouble I would think so I’m pretty disappointed. I can’t see any reference to this problem in w205 forums.

Apparently is quite common according to some people at track (a guy who had been to many Mercedes drive days) and one suggested an local AMG tuner that could basically retune and program the limp mode out. Thoughts.?
I doubt this is a common problem otherwise all them cars at the AMG driving event would all go into limp mode...
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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 09:37 PM
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I had a cylinder misfire on my car when I was floored it to get out of oncoming traffic. I took it to the dealership and that took them about a month to properly diagnose and correct the problem. I got the cylinder replaced.
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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SJGetsome
Is your car stock or tuned? How many miles on the spark plugs?
no not tuned. Taken into Merc today for assessment. Probably needs new coils and sparks.
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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by amg8
I doubt this is a common problem otherwise all them cars at the AMG driving event would all go into limp mode...
Yes and no.
I was with another Merc driver yesterday who attended a Merc drive day with all the new AMG models which he paid thousands of dollars to attend and he said the S Class went into limp mode all day. In general terms I agree with you though which is why I bought the car!
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I’ve been to multiple track days and never had any issue with misfires. My cars a 2015 so all the coils where replaced under the warranty recall.
Hopefully Mercedes can get it sorted out , it’s surprising they are still having these issues since the engine came out in 2015.
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Originally Posted by zipzap
I’ve been to multiple track days and never had any issue with misfires. My cars a 2015 so all the coils where replaced under the warranty recall.
Hopefully Mercedes can get it sorted out , it’s surprising they are still having these issues since the engine came out in 2015.
Right!
I have had word today that I had 2 coil failures. Merc are aware of the issue apparently but I now have to go through the trouble shooting method to confim. i.e. They have now changed coils to other side to see if fail. Seems like a waste of time to me.
Anyway you can send or post up the Warranty Recall? In Australia we sometimes dont get these things right.I would like to show them the recall and get them all replaced as Im under a dealer warranty. Cheers
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I have had word today that I had 2 coil failures. Merc are aware of the issue apparently but I now have to go through the trouble shooting method to confim. i.e. They have now changed coils to other side to see if fail. Seems like a waste of time to me.
Anyway you can send or post up the Warranty Recall? In Australia we sometimes dont get these things right.I would like to show them the recall and get them all replaced as Im under a dealer warranty. Cheers

Heres the link to the discussion on the forum, everything you need and some is listed there.I found out about the recall on the forums!

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-amg/700099-ignition-coil-recall.html

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Old Apr 29, 2020 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by zipzap
Heres the link to the discussion on the forum, everything you need and some is listed there.I found out about the recall on the forums!

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-amg/700099-ignition-coil-recall.html

Attached is the recall with the campaign number.
Legend. Thanks very much!!!
Ill advise tomorrow and see if I can get them all replced!

Cheers
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Old Apr 29, 2020 | 07:23 AM
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I have had similar issues after rallys and days with heavy "spirited" driving. Glad I caught this post and thanks for the recall info...I had suspected that was the issue. Now I know it likely was!
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I had misfire issues around 18K miles, and I was already tuned stage 2 for 10K of those miles, mine were only spark plug related. Replaced plugs and never had any problems after that. Good luck OP.
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Old May 3, 2020 | 01:58 AM
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Apparently coils were replaced in 2017.

They swapped the new ones to each side. They found a couple of o ring leaks which they replaced. Mechanic took it for a drive and couldn’t get it to fault.

I just took it for a drive in race mode and faulted it within about 30 secs. LOL,

Will take it back again!

Annoying!
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Old May 6, 2020 | 02:21 AM
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I just got misfire codes a couple days ago, 0300, 0303, 0201, 0600. I have been tuned for several months and the plugs are old, So it is at the shop currently getting OEM plugs. Fingers crossed that the codes go away with the new plugs.
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Old May 6, 2020 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LessIsMore
I just got misfire codes a couple days ago, 0300, 0303, 0201, 0600. I have been tuned for several months and the plugs are old, So it is at the shop currently getting OEM plugs. Fingers crossed that the codes go away with the new plugs.
Could be spark plugs but would they all fail at same time?

i think my issue is now the fuel regulator into the cylinder bank. They’re still working on it!
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Originally Posted by PPS4Ever
Apparently coils were replaced in 2017.

They swapped the new ones to each side. They found a couple of o ring leaks which they replaced. Mechanic took it for a drive and couldn’t get it to fault.

I just took it for a drive in race mode and faulted it within about 30 secs. LOL,

Will take it back again!

Annoying!
It's definitely more prone to happen in mine while in race mode as well. Which leads me to believe it may be related to the tune and air/fuel or timing. I'll have to address that with the tuner, but may try coils first.
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I took my 2015 c63s to a track day yesterday. Before I started pushing very hard at all, I had cylinders dropping out and engine light on. These would reset after a shutdown of the car however it continued throughout the whole day. Very frustrating when on a good lap and more frequent when over 5000 revs.

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I spoke with Mercedes whilst there and a mechanic advised the coils over heat and can cause misfires. I logged into car with a another track attendees adapter and there were multiple misfires on almost every cylinder.

anyone else ever had this? This car is supposed to be able to handle the odd track day without too much trouble I would think so I’m pretty disappointed. I can’t see any reference to this problem in w205 forums.

Apparently is quite common according to some people at track (a guy who had been to many Mercedes drive days) and one suggested an local AMG tuner that could basically retune and program the limp mode out. Thoughts.?
never had any issue with misfires. My cars a 2015 so all the coils where replaced under the warranty recall.

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Old Jul 20, 2020 | 04:17 PM
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What site do you guys use to order coils and plugs for the C63s? Im new to the platform, i use ecs tuning and fcp euro for my bmw needs but they don't cary coils or plugs for the amg.

In case I get misfires need to know where to get coils and plugs from
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Originally Posted by LessIsMore
I just got misfire codes a couple days ago, 0300, 0303, 0201, 0600. I have been tuned for several months and the plugs are old, So it is at the shop currently getting OEM plugs. Fingers crossed that the codes go away with the new plugs.
Update - resolved my case: The cause was that the ECM needed a software update from Mercedes. There was no actual mechanical or hardware problem, just software.
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Long time between posts.!,
The problem was dirty fuel blocking up the fuel pump. I had another track day on the weekend and had no issues after new fuel pump put in under warranty.

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Long time between posts.!,
The problem was dirty fuel blocking up the fuel pump. I had another track day on the weekend and had no issues after new fuel pump put in under warranty.
Had the same experience ... CEL running on track, caused by plugged tank-pump filter (replaced under warranty).

Turns out the previous owner had always used 94 octane, which is rare in this area. It's likely that the issue was that so few people pay the extra for 94 octane that, at most pumps, it sits in the service-station tank for a long time.

The only 94 octane I buy is from a station close to the race track ... and it gets _lots_ of customers! Since the C63 S gets only 4-5 mpg (imperial gallons!), I fill at least 2 times every track day. $;-))
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Originally Posted by texasmade
I had a cylinder misfire on my car when I was floored it to get out of oncoming traffic. I took it to the dealership and that took them about a month to properly diagnose and correct the problem. I got the cylinder replaced.
what? how do they replace a cylinder? how is that even possible?
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