Cooling upgrade? Engine overheat?
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Cooling upgrade? Engine overheat?
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Has any of you heard that C63s tends to overheat? As the oil temperature of a c63 (~100 celsius) is higher than normal cars' (80-90 celsius), you'd better upgrade your intercooler / downpipe / or some cooling kits otherwise the longevity for the engine might be shorter? I heard this from some friends and they said the engine room is too small for a V8 so the engine cooling is not working very well and the car tends to overheat but I doubt this since I think Mercedes might have taken this into consideration.
Have you ever heard anything about cooling issues or faced failure or engine issues led by cooling?
Thank you in advance
Has any of you heard that C63s tends to overheat? As the oil temperature of a c63 (~100 celsius) is higher than normal cars' (80-90 celsius), you'd better upgrade your intercooler / downpipe / or some cooling kits otherwise the longevity for the engine might be shorter? I heard this from some friends and they said the engine room is too small for a V8 so the engine cooling is not working very well and the car tends to overheat but I doubt this since I think Mercedes might have taken this into consideration.
Have you ever heard anything about cooling issues or faced failure or engine issues led by cooling?
Thank you in advance
Last edited by Xhiba; Jun 1, 2020 at 07:24 AM.
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GM,
you have left so many things opened ended that you might get lots of negative responses.
1) when does the car over heat ? After a track event ? After just starting it and sitting ? Etc etc
2) Yes , MB has thought about the engine compartment size a couple of timed.
3) what year, model is the car ?
4) did you buy new/used ?
..........
you have left so many things opened ended that you might get lots of negative responses.
1) when does the car over heat ? After a track event ? After just starting it and sitting ? Etc etc
2) Yes , MB has thought about the engine compartment size a couple of timed.
3) what year, model is the car ?
4) did you buy new/used ?
..........
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Hi there
Has any of you heard that C63s tends to overheat? As the oil temperature of a c63 (~100 celsius) is higher than normal cars' (80-90 celsius), you'd better upgrade your intercooler / downpipe / or some cooling kits otherwise the longevity for the engine might be shorter? I heard this from some friends and they said the engine room is too small for a V8 so the engine cooling is not working very well and the car tends to overheat but I doubt this since I think Mercedes might have taken this into consideration.
Have you ever heard anything about cooling issues or faced failure or engine issues led by cooling?
Thank you in advance
Has any of you heard that C63s tends to overheat? As the oil temperature of a c63 (~100 celsius) is higher than normal cars' (80-90 celsius), you'd better upgrade your intercooler / downpipe / or some cooling kits otherwise the longevity for the engine might be shorter? I heard this from some friends and they said the engine room is too small for a V8 so the engine cooling is not working very well and the car tends to overheat but I doubt this since I think Mercedes might have taken this into consideration.
Have you ever heard anything about cooling issues or faced failure or engine issues led by cooling?
Thank you in advance
I've now installed the facelift protection grids as a precaution. There's quite a few threads on here about debris hitting the coolers and causing them to break. And after having a sticky beak, it's actually very common with the C63, AMG GT, E63 and anything with open coolers
I'm really starting to feel that Mercedes-AMG cars are brittle and riddled with issues. I love my car but you will need a small fortune to maintain these things, that's for sure
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No issues with cooling during hard driving, etc. until my weak little factory coolers decided to both start leaking last week. Just a tick over 3 years of ownership (out of warranty), I wasn't happy. Luckily my AMG mechanic found out when they were doing my facelift conversion.
I've now installed the facelift protection grids as a precaution. There's quite a few threads on here about debris hitting the coolers and causing them to break. And after having a sticky beak, it's actually very common with the C63, AMG GT, E63 and anything with open coolers
I'm really starting to feel that Mercedes-AMG cars are brittle and riddled with issues. I love my car but you will need a small fortune to maintain these things, that's for sure
I've now installed the facelift protection grids as a precaution. There's quite a few threads on here about debris hitting the coolers and causing them to break. And after having a sticky beak, it's actually very common with the C63, AMG GT, E63 and anything with open coolers
I'm really starting to feel that Mercedes-AMG cars are brittle and riddled with issues. I love my car but you will need a small fortune to maintain these things, that's for sure
I dont think you can blame MB-AMG for inter-cooler issues, , I mean if a rock gets thrown at your windshield it breaks too... :-)
NOW.. with that being said......
I am looking at a larger inter-cooler, simply because I am wanting to change my turbo's and dont want to have issues with heat. (and since I drive alot in the south, and it gets hot/hummid.
Like the attached :-)
https://x-ph.com/csf-high-performanc...des-c63-amg-s/
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Last time I checked, a Rock or debris at radiators, inter-coolers, etc all had the same result if hit hard enough ...
My G63 has rock guards, my c63s. and c43 have less protection...
When you TRACK your car , and you end up with rubber nuggets all over the inter-cooler from the track, do you blame them too ?
And debris and impact to a car is the SAME thing regardless if its the windshield, hood, headlight, radiator, inter-cooler.... period.. its impact of 2 objects.
Now... if the argument is, that the inter-coolers are CHEAP, and or they just leak , or crack for no reason, then that is a different story.. but as far as it being impact related , I dont see the point...
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Aftermarket coolers are promising, true. Personally I wouldn't get one all that logo writing on it. Looks sh*t. But if it does the job, it's cheap and you're happy then why not.
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Hey Mate, yea I said Rock at Windshield.. :-)
Last time I checked, a Rock or debris at radiators, inter-coolers, etc all had the same result if hit hard enough ...
My G63 has rock guards, my c63s. and c43 have less protection...
When you TRACK your car , and you end up with rubber nuggets all over the inter-cooler from the track, do you blame them too ?
And debris and impact to a car is the SAME thing regardless if its the windshield, hood, headlight, radiator, inter-cooler.... period.. its impact of 2 objects.
Now... if the argument is, that the inter-coolers are CHEAP, and or they just leak , or crack for no reason, then that is a different story.. but as far as it being impact related , I dont see the point...
Last time I checked, a Rock or debris at radiators, inter-coolers, etc all had the same result if hit hard enough ...
My G63 has rock guards, my c63s. and c43 have less protection...
When you TRACK your car , and you end up with rubber nuggets all over the inter-cooler from the track, do you blame them too ?
And debris and impact to a car is the SAME thing regardless if its the windshield, hood, headlight, radiator, inter-cooler.... period.. its impact of 2 objects.
Now... if the argument is, that the inter-coolers are CHEAP, and or they just leak , or crack for no reason, then that is a different story.. but as far as it being impact related , I dont see the point...
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I have no dog in this fight, I was responding to the OP, and trying to get a grasp on what he was asking..
My G63, C63s and C43 have the same covers for the inter-coolers, and have yet to have a problem with any of them.
I posted a pick of a 3rd party cooler, in the event someones car was running hotter then normal, but the OP, did not give any details on when, what , why the car was running hot.. .. or if he even owns one, and was just posting it as a question, because he heard it on the internet... ??
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Hey Jimmy...
I have no dog in this fight, I was responding to the OP, and trying to get a grasp on what he was asking..
My G63, C63s and C43 have the same covers for the inter-coolers, and have yet to have a problem with any of them.
I posted a pick of a 3rd party cooler, in the event someones car was running hotter then normal, but the OP, did not give any details on when, what , why the car was running hot.. .. or if he even owns one, and was just posting it as a question, because he heard it on the internet... ??
I have no dog in this fight, I was responding to the OP, and trying to get a grasp on what he was asking..
My G63, C63s and C43 have the same covers for the inter-coolers, and have yet to have a problem with any of them.
I posted a pick of a 3rd party cooler, in the event someones car was running hotter then normal, but the OP, did not give any details on when, what , why the car was running hot.. .. or if he even owns one, and was just posting it as a question, because he heard it on the internet... ??
Do you mind me asking, does your Facelift have the cooler protection grilles? I've seen some facelifts without them and just wasn't sure if they all came with them from the factory now?
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Hey Jimmy...
I have no dog in this fight, I was responding to the OP, and trying to get a grasp on what he was asking..
My G63, C63s and C43 have the same covers for the inter-coolers, and have yet to have a problem with any of them.
I posted a pick of a 3rd party cooler, in the event someones car was running hotter then normal, but the OP, did not give any details on when, what , why the car was running hot.. .. or if he even owns one, and was just posting it as a question, because he heard it on the internet... ??
I have no dog in this fight, I was responding to the OP, and trying to get a grasp on what he was asking..
My G63, C63s and C43 have the same covers for the inter-coolers, and have yet to have a problem with any of them.
I posted a pick of a 3rd party cooler, in the event someones car was running hotter then normal, but the OP, did not give any details on when, what , why the car was running hot.. .. or if he even owns one, and was just posting it as a question, because he heard it on the internet... ??
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The c43 is a 2020, and has a similar mesh, but my GF is driving it,so cant go take a pic this sec... and of course the G has the same covers as the PFL.
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I have way tougher skin then that :-)
Thank you for taking the time to clarify and posting.. Much respect for that!!!
and I hear ya.. its 10am here.. and I need a freakin beer already...
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GM,
you have left so many things opened ended that you might get lots of negative responses.
1) when does the car over heat ? After a track event ? After just starting it and sitting ? Etc etc
2) Yes , MB has thought about the engine compartment size a couple of timed.
3) what year, model is the car ?
4) did you buy new/used ?
..........
you have left so many things opened ended that you might get lots of negative responses.
1) when does the car over heat ? After a track event ? After just starting it and sitting ? Etc etc
2) Yes , MB has thought about the engine compartment size a couple of timed.
3) what year, model is the car ?
4) did you buy new/used ?
..........
1) I haven’t experienced overheat..however I think they were just saying a temperature at around Celsius 100 can make this car less durable
3) 2016 C63s
4) New - now only 20000km
Currently I don’t have plan to upgrade the turbo or power, just want to make my car more durable.
Thanks again.
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Honestly I'm actually impressed with how well the W205s do with stock cooling the trans oil and engine oil temps. On a hot day here in Chicagoland area (temps of 90+) after hard driving the engine oil temps get to about 215F and trans oil I've never seen above ~185F. And they cool down to about 205F and 175F pretty quick after those hard runs under normal driving.
But never a bad idea to improve cooling further.
But never a bad idea to improve cooling further.
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In stock form, with no damage/issues, our car simply don't have much of a cooling problem to address. Sure with cold air intakes you might modify some air flow through the engine Bay, but that would be more looking for every last horse power in terms of performance.
I consider wasting money a bad idea.
I consider wasting money a bad idea.
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In stock form, with no damage/issues, our car simply don't have much of a cooling problem to address. Sure with cold air intakes you might modify some air flow through the engine Bay, but that would be more looking for every last horse power in terms of performance.
I consider wasting money a bad idea.
I consider wasting money a bad idea.
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And even then, it would still be a waste of money if the factory cooling is able to keep temps within a good range. I know I have seen multiple threads and posts from owners tracking their C63 with factory cooling systems.
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Hot lapping on a race track was not the context here.
And even then, it would still be a waste of money if the factory cooling is able to keep temps within a good range. I know I have seen multiple threads and posts from owners tracking their C63 with factory cooling systems.
And even then, it would still be a waste of money if the factory cooling is able to keep temps within a good range. I know I have seen multiple threads and posts from owners tracking their C63 with factory cooling systems.
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I’d never track my C63S without upgraded heat exchangers or something to keep IAT’s in check (like water/meth). Especially here in Texas.
Even stock, the under hood temps can get so hot it melts plastic - ask me how I know...
Heat management is critical if you’re thinking about longevity. Make sure to cool the car down (do some “cool down laps”) before parking so it’s not hot in the garage baking itself and all the electrical components under the hood to death... I’ve also gotten into the habit of popping the hood after a spirited drive to help evacuate the heat in the engine bay.
Even stock, the under hood temps can get so hot it melts plastic - ask me how I know...
Heat management is critical if you’re thinking about longevity. Make sure to cool the car down (do some “cool down laps”) before parking so it’s not hot in the garage baking itself and all the electrical components under the hood to death... I’ve also gotten into the habit of popping the hood after a spirited drive to help evacuate the heat in the engine bay.
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