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Old Jan 28, 2021 | 12:08 PM
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A different steering issue

So reading the other thread recently opened had me thinking of my issue. which is different. Before I take the car in and they tell me they can't replicate it or it's normal I thought I'd ask here.

When driving my car in curves, mainly sweepers, the steering wheel seems to bind up (kind of sends a pulse through the steering wheel and sticks to it's line) the only way to correct this is to jerk the wheel slightly to get it back on my desired line. I've had this happen in a few high speed sweepers and it's a bit unnerving as it upsets the stability. Anyone experience something similar?
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Old Jan 28, 2021 | 03:00 PM
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Nope mine definitely does not do that.
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 03:33 AM
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Which thread are you referring to? There's a long thread going back to 2015 about steering issues and at least the descriptions at the beginning of the thread seem to describe what you are experiencing. More recently there are posts about what seems to be a different issue some are experiencing with their FL where the steering is not returning to center on its own, but doesn't sound like what you are describing, and yours is PFL.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...-supposed.html
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 08:21 AM
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I have experienced something similar on a previous car I owned (e39 540) and found it was related to soft tyre wall/not enough tyre pressure. It would do the same in corners where the steering wheel suddenly felt locked and had to slow down or jerk it but no pulse feeling like you said.
Might not be what is happening but could be a possibility.
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Which thread are you referring to? There's a long thread going back to 2015 about steering issues and at least the descriptions at the beginning of the thread seem to describe what you are experiencing. More recently there are posts about what seems to be a different issue some are experiencing with their FL where the steering is not returning to center on its own, but doesn't sound like what you are describing, and yours is PFL.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...-supposed.html
SuperSwiss, thanks for the link, I hadn't seen this thread. It looks like there are two different issues going on in there but the first few replies are exactly what my issue is.

In fact this response to one of your replies nails it. " On a left hand bender the car will freeze in the position. Naturally the wheel will unwind with motion, but the car will instead keep lock on that angle and drive into a tree"

I've said to myself if I don't grab this wheel I'm going to end up in this barrier on the highway. I haven't paid attention to whether or not it's only on left turns but I'm heading out of town this weekend so I'll have plenty of miles to pay attention to it. I guess it's going to the dealer when I get back.
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by boosted20v
So reading the other thread recently opened had me thinking of my issue. which is different. Before I take the car in and they tell me they can't replicate it or it's normal I thought I'd ask here.

When driving my car in curves, mainly sweepers, the steering wheel seems to bind up (kind of sends a pulse through the steering wheel and sticks to it's line) the only way to correct this is to jerk the wheel slightly to get it back on my desired line. I've had this happen in a few high speed sweepers and it's a bit unnerving as it upsets the stability. Anyone experience something similar?
That sounds like what happens with mine. It’s a 2019 FL. It’s only when I’m at about 11 o’clock and only on left hand turns. Most of the time it’s subtle but a couple of times alarming when you might have only one hand on the wheel for a split second.

You have to drive the car a lot and lots of different cambers angles and at speeds to notice it. Myself and Mrs have but nobody else has ever noted it. I do suspect if someone else like a mechanic is carefully driving your car or someone who’s not even too tuned into driving I wonder if it’s actually possible some people may not notice it.
Apparently nothing wrong with it MB says after 3 steering racks and multiple visits. having had the car to two different dealers about 4 times, each for almost a month at a go I’ve not had an answer and in fact down right denial and rudeness from MB who have diplomatically told me it’s in my head.

Weirdly I feel it’s slightly better or less frequent now (or I have got used to it more) after 3 recent safety recall notices from MB each for software updates. I wonder if it’s a combo of software and suspension geometry or something on certain road surfaces as it’s hard to reproduce. The car is incredible but steering let’s it down.

I wish someone could get an answer to this so I can demand MB do the same with mine. I’d keep hassling your dealers and hopefully we can get answers and probably another recall.

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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 11:47 PM
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That sounds like what happens with mine. It’s a 2019 FL. It’s only when I’m at about 11 o’clock and only on left hand turns. Most of the time it’s subtle but a couple of times alarming when you might have only one hand on the wheel for a split second.

You have to drive the car a lot and lots of different cambers angles and at speeds to notice it. Myself and Mrs have but nobody else has ever noted it. I do suspect if someone else like a mechanic is carefully driving your car or someone who’s not even too tuned into driving I wonder if it’s actually possible some people may not notice it.
Apparently nothing wrong with it MB says after 3 steering racks and multiple visits. having had the car to two different dealers about 4 times, each for almost a month at a go I’ve not had an answer and in fact down right denial and rudeness from MB who have diplomatically told me it’s in my head.

Weirdly I feel it’s slightly better or less frequent now (or I have got used to it more) after 3 recent safety recall notices from MB each for software updates. I wonder if it’s a combo of software and suspension geometry or something on certain road surfaces as it’s hard to reproduce. The car is incredible but steering let’s it down.

I wish someone could get an answer to this so I can demand MB do the same with mine. I’d keep hassling your dealers and hopefully we can get answers and probably another recall.
Same story as mine, 3 steering racks and no real resolution. I think it’s a design flaw that they will never admit...
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Old Jan 30, 2021 | 06:17 AM
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I agree - all their computer diagnostics and technicians say t’s running and working fine or within parameters as designed. Makes me think you’re correct.
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I agree - all their computer diagnostics and technicians say t’s running and working fine or within parameters as designed. Makes me think you’re correct.
Should we file a report with NHTSA? Lol
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Old Jan 30, 2021 | 10:18 AM
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I might if I knew what it was! lol
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Old Jan 30, 2021 | 11:13 AM
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I might if I knew what it was! lol
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Old Jan 31, 2021 | 09:25 AM
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Im not in the US but I think everyone who is should
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Old Feb 1, 2021 | 11:29 AM
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Well just got back from my trip to Austin this weekend so I had 500 plus miles to observe. As mentioned above 11 o'clock seem to be the sweet spot where it happens. Does it just about on every left hander but I also noticed it sporadically turning right. I haven't been to any of my local Houston dealerships yet as I've only had the car for a few months. Going to stop by one this afternoon and see what they have to say. Steering issue aside I had a blast in the car out in the hill country, nothing like spirited driving through the hills with the top down in 75 degree weather!
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**Update**

Took my car in to have it looked at, I was surprised when they called me in a week and said it was done. According to them it was a software update for the power steering. I was very skeptical but after driving around for a while after picking it up it appears to have worked.
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