Hi all,

Looking to upgrade my turbos and saw that "PURE TURBOS" offer a "core deposit" option whereby when I send my stock M177 tubos back to them after removing the stock ones they will refund me the extra money paid. The turbos I am looking at are either the Pure 900's or 1000's, both have a$3,500 core deposit refund option. From my research, these seem like great value money wise (given you get back $3500) but I want to know has anyone on here used them, done the core deposit back option and had any issues in getting their money back? Also, are Pure good turbos?

I've been looking at Pure, Blackboost and PTG. I am based in Sydney Australia so no matter what I decide on it will be sent from the USA. Thanks for the feedback/advice guys.

 

I am in the same boat. I’m looking to upgrade turbos as well. Mainly looking at pure 900 vs pure 1000. Ptg1000 sound nice, being ball bearing, but not sure how to source them and the association with yabeela, Dime, Steve, etc has me a bit wary of going that route. It’s a shame though because I like the idea of keeping my stocks without paying a huge core charge.

The other thing I’m slightly concerned about is, I’ve heard on the PTG1000 that it’s no boost until 4K then hold on for dear life, which sounds like it wouldn’t be so great for daily driving. One other post mentioned that Pure 1000 were similar, and had low boost until 5k rpm, and recommended the 900 over the 1000s, though that is the only post I’ve seen that mentions anything like this. My tuner at Dynocomp is recommending the pure 1000s over 900s saying they just flow a lot better and are much better bang for the buck.

I’m only really shooting for like 650-750 wheel, so not even the max limit of these turbos, but nicely within the cars other components safe limits without having to change out internals or fuel system. It seems there isn’t a great answer or easy upgrade for the fuel system limitations yet anyway, outside of meth. I have the 9spd trans, I haven’t seen any build kits for it, they all seem to be for the 7spd, but the 9 is good for +750 ft/lbs or more from what I can gather anyway.

I currently have 2019 C63s with wiestec stg2 tune, capristo Catless DPs, modal works intakes, and some R888R. After turbos I’ll probably look into tcu + Cpc to help put power down better. Not to hijack your thread, but it seems you are looking for feedback as well on the Pure 900 vs 1000 vs ptg 1000 debate as well.

Those BlackBoost ones look decent too, albeit slightly more expensive because not sending in cores, but have not heard any feedback on those either.

 

Yes, we are in the same boat indeed. I am not looking to set records or go near 1000hp. I will be happy with 700whp. Also, my Tuner who is one of the most known tuners here in Sydney said the PTG1000 have bigger lag for sure. He suggests BlackBoost that has no lag, still can hit 10.5 - 10.60 @135-138mph which is totally fine by me and the no lag sounds way more appealing than 900-1000hp with nothing until 4k rpm and then losing traction all over the place on the street. My car will be a weekend warrior and mainly street driven and I want it safe and also, like you said not to have to change the fuel system and internals etc. I won't be dragging mine and might do the occasional track day going around a circuit. Which ever turbo set up I go, WMI will be set up as well to allow higher boost and timing to keep everything safe and maximise performance.

Mine is a 2016 ED1 wagon, 7 speed. Currently stage 1 with ECU/TCU tune and 2nd cat delete and I will be going back to the same tuner for the Stage 3. He got the Stage 1 from 307rwkw (on his dyno) to 375rwkw (on his dyno) and up from 700nm to 886nm, all on stage 1. Since then I have added ZAC Carbon Intakes.

My Stage 3 will be:
Pure 900 or Blackboost turbos
3" catless Downpipes
3" full titanium exhaust
Weistec WMI
upgraded coolers on the front ( probably the ones from VRP: https://www.vrpspeed.com/product/vrp...-exchanger-kit )
ZAC Carbon intakes (already installed)

So, what is the issue that you mentioned with PTG and association with Yabeela etc? what's the go there? I don't know of them and when I google Yabeela or PTG I don't seem to get much information online but my tuner, for this Stage 4 upgrades, recommends the PTG1000 and if he is happy to use then I trust his word but again, he said they are very laggy and to get the best from them you need a better fuel system and diff upgrade at minimum. I don't want to do that like I mentioned earlier.

 

I’ve had the Pure 800 / Pure 900 and now have the YP4 turbos
If your not chasing ultimate hp then you can’t go past the pure range for their plug and play and stock look.
Like some one mentioned the YP4”s are all or nothing , you hit 4000 rpm then **** your pants as the back end tries to overtake you (and it will if your not careful) If you want to get fast 60-130 or 100-200 times then you really don’t have a choice but to go for the PTG turbos

 

Check what we have, Our stage 1 are 900 equivalents, We have 1000s on the way, And we have VRP1300s in the works, (Precision CHRAs) Our turbos have been very successful, We currently have a waiting list.

 

Thanks for the feedback. Do these guys (PTG) have a website as I've searched online and cannot find them anywhere. Also, are PTG the same as Yabeela?

 

found a stage 2 on your website but it has no description of what makes it up? https://www.vrpspeed.com/product/vrp...rade-m177-m178

no stats, no build info... would be helpful if Im going to consider dropping $4995 on them...

 

It’d be nice to have someone that has the pure 1000 speak about them or has had or seen both the 900 and 1000s for comparison sake.

Also, yes more info on VRP stage 2.
Far as I know PTG has no website, only Instagram and Facebook.

Also if gettin WMI, I’m pretty sure the weistec system is same exact thing as AEM system just 3x the cost. May have to double check, but that’s what I was told last year anyway, weistec does come with the silicone hoses and clamps though you would have to source elsewhere.

 

I personally have run both the Pure 900/1000 along with PTG1000 and they were solid for the intended use. As for the numbers you are looking for (750hp) the pure 900 are the best option. Once your ecu/tcu is tuned on an e30 blend you will be at or slightly above the 750hp mark. The key thing with any turbo upgrades on the w205s is you wont max out your turbos potential without a fuel blend/ upgrading high pressure and low pressure fuel pumps (very costly)/ or adding a meth kit (recommend doing a custom trunk tank where you keep the air compressor).
Now on the flip side to really get the full potential of either of the 1000 turbos you should expect to upgrade your fuel pumps, upgraded trans (max it can handle 890hp), cooling, etc. As it goes for power, these are really meant for roll races. But once the turbos hit, you will start praying its not your time.
I would always recommend thinking about the power you want to be at and what you are actually trying to do with the car.