Whos Going Porsche after C63/S Ownership
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Whos Going Porsche after C63/S Ownership
My ownership Journey started 3 years ago.
When I pulled the trigger on the 2021 C63 in 2021
I could have walked into a 992 2020
Obviously I picked the C63 lol.
Wondering for those who are new Sports/Super car enthusiast whats next for you...
My ownership chain will look like such C63 >> Porsche >>> Mclaren 570s or Lambo H 580
I have seen good deals on the 570s. 992 C4 hovers around 120K for a few thousand more you can grab a Mclaren 570s
When I pulled the trigger on the 2021 C63 in 2021
I could have walked into a 992 2020
Obviously I picked the C63 lol.
Wondering for those who are new Sports/Super car enthusiast whats next for you...
My ownership chain will look like such C63 >> Porsche >>> Mclaren 570s or Lambo H 580
I have seen good deals on the 570s. 992 C4 hovers around 120K for a few thousand more you can grab a Mclaren 570s
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I am but I'm waiting for car prices to stabilize. Low mileage cars one or two years old are currently selling close to MSRP! I'm waiting for dealers to rebuild their new car inventory so used car prices come down. I'm thinking Carrera S as I want to avoid the center lock wheel issue on a GTS. Love my AMG 63s but too many cars, too little time. I'm 70.
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Already did. 2017 911 C4 with 24k miles and a warranty. Loaded with front axle lift, PDK, a Escort 360 CI (integrated into the smoker tray), and 100% full PPF. Purchased for less than what I bought my C63S Coupe for new back in 2016.
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So Porsche for me is an interesting dilemma. They are continuously praised for their handling and dynamism, but at the same time are described as clinical by more and more people. For example the PDK has become so good, that it is unrewarding. It shifts too smoothly for a performance car. To be honest, the only Porsches that interest me are the GT models, but they are not very good everyday cars. They also still have some of the rawness I seek and the PDK is better in them. Some of the models can still be had with manual transmissions, so that would be another option. But quite honestly, I think Porsche is somewhat overrated and definitely overpriced unless you find a good deal in the used market. Their design hasn't much evolved over time, and they have had one idea, placing the engine in the rear and stuck with it doing everything possible to overcome the inherent disadvantage of place the engine back there. Not to mention the sheer overload of different 911 variants. But, now that MB, BMW and Audi have all discontinued their European Delivery programs and what's coming out of AMG next isn't exactly my cup of tea, Porsche might end up being my next choice. I like that they are not messing with their core lineup at least for now and instead are working on a fully electric lineup and the Taycan is a great start.
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So Porsche for me is an interesting dilemma. They are continuously praised for their handling and dynamism, but at the same time are described as clinical by more and more people. For example the PDK has become so good, that it is unrewarding. It shifts too smoothly for a performance car. To be honest, the only Porsches that interest me are the GT models, but they are not very good everyday cars. They also still have some of the rawness I seek and the PDK is better in them. Some of the models can still be had with manual transmissions, so that would be another option. But quite honestly, I think Porsche is somewhat overrated and definitely overpriced unless you find a good deal in the used market. Their design hasn't much evolved over time, and they have had one idea, placing the engine in the rear and stuck with it doing everything possible to overcome the inherent disadvantage of place the engine back there. Not to mention the sheer overload of different 911 variants. But, now that MB, BMW and Audi have all discontinued their European Delivery programs and what's coming out of AMG next isn't exactly my cup of tea, Porsche might end up being my next choice. I like that they are not messing with their core lineup at least for now and instead are working on a fully electric lineup and the Taycan is a great start.
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So Porsche for me is an interesting dilemma. They are continuously praised for their handling and dynamism, but at the same time are described as clinical by more and more people. For example the PDK has become so good, that it is unrewarding. It shifts too smoothly for a performance car. To be honest, the only Porsches that interest me are the GT models, but they are not very good everyday cars. They also still have some of the rawness I seek and the PDK is better in them. Some of the models can still be had with manual transmissions, so that would be another option. But quite honestly, I think Porsche is somewhat overrated and definitely overpriced unless you find a good deal in the used market. Their design hasn't much evolved over time, and they have had one idea, placing the engine in the rear and stuck with it doing everything possible to overcome the inherent disadvantage of place the engine back there. Not to mention the sheer overload of different 911 variants. But, now that MB, BMW and Audi have all discontinued their European Delivery programs and what's coming out of AMG next isn't exactly my cup of tea, Porsche might end up being my next choice. I like that they are not messing with their core lineup at least for now and instead are working on a fully electric lineup and the Taycan is a great start.
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A recent news event was the research Porsche is doing in the possible manufacturing of a 'gasoline' that is nearly emission free. Success in this venture would mean that the internal combustion engine may still be here in the future. This seems to say that Porsche is committed to the ICE driving experience. This kind of Porsche commitment would win my commitment to Porsche. Yes overpriced but this is the price of the Porsche driving experience. It's based upon tradition, never losing sight of the original concept that has evolved through the years.
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I came out of a 2017 911S. I have had two other 911's but the 2017 was the first with turbos. It was a game changer IMO, offering high torque off the line that was never before possible until you were at 3,000 rpm's. Porsche has always evolved with refinements and handling. My 2017 was more nimble than my 2013. The 2017 had the handling characteristics more like the 2016 Cayman GTS I briefly had. After driving a 911, all other front engine cars feel heavy and not as compliant. THAT BEING SAID, I was ready for a more comfortable "GT" ride. So far, my C63s Cabriolet is giving me that. No, it does not handle like a 911 or feel as nimble, but in certain ways, I am finding it more enjoyable and fun to drive, especially when it comes to entering and exiting the car. Better on my 64 y.o. back.
BUT, nothing is like a 911 in many ways and all sports cars enthusiasts owe it to themselves to own one if financially possible. Just do it when you're a little younger
BUT, nothing is like a 911 in many ways and all sports cars enthusiasts owe it to themselves to own one if financially possible. Just do it when you're a little younger
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I came out of a 2017 911S. I have had two other 911's but the 2017 was the first with turbos. It was a game changer IMO, offering high torque off the line that was never before possible until you were at 3,000 rpm's. Porsche has always evolved with refinements and handling. My 2017 was more nimble than my 2013. The 2017 had the handling characteristics more like the 2016 Cayman GTS I briefly had. After driving a 911, all other front engine cars feel heavy and not as compliant. THAT BEING SAID, I was ready for a more comfortable "GT" ride. So far, my C63s Cabriolet is giving me that. No, it does not handle like a 911 or feel as nimble, but in certain ways, I am finding it more enjoyable and fun to drive, especially when it comes to entering and exiting the car. Better on my 64 y.o. back.
BUT, nothing is like a 911 in many ways and all sports cars enthusiasts owe it to themselves to own one if financially possible. Just do it when you're a little younger
BUT, nothing is like a 911 in many ways and all sports cars enthusiasts owe it to themselves to own one if financially possible. Just do it when you're a little younger
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So Porsche for me is an interesting dilemma. They are continuously praised for their handling and dynamism, but at the same time are described as clinical by more and more people. For example the PDK has become so good, that it is unrewarding. It shifts too smoothly for a performance car. To be honest, the only Porsches that interest me are the GT models, but they are not very good everyday cars. They also still have some of the rawness I seek and the PDK is better in them. Some of the models can still be had with manual transmissions, so that would be another option. But quite honestly, I think Porsche is somewhat overrated and definitely overpriced unless you find a good deal in the used market. Their design hasn't much evolved over time, and they have had one idea, placing the engine in the rear and stuck with it doing everything possible to overcome the inherent disadvantage of place the engine back there. Not to mention the sheer overload of different 911 variants. But, now that MB, BMW and Audi have all discontinued their European Delivery programs and what's coming out of AMG next isn't exactly my cup of tea, Porsche might end up being my next choice. I like that they are not messing with their core lineup at least for now and instead are working on a fully electric lineup and the Taycan is a great start.
Don’t get me wrong, front engine, RWD cars are tons of fun but have completely different driving dynamics. Once you reach a certain power level, you simply can’t manage all that power to the rear wheels. You need downforce or weight over the rear tires for grip, so it’s inherently at a disadvantage for handling and traction.
I will say that the PDK in my 991.2 is the best transmission I’ve ever had. I drove manuals for 15 years. Getting the C63S in an auto was a hard thing for me to get over, but it worked. The PDK can’t even be compared, it’s definitely smooth when you want it to be, but put it in Sport+ and it will slam your head against the seat when you pull the paddle under wide open throttle. Clinical? Definitely not. Precise and able to place the car whenever you want with extreme confidence? Absolutely.
The only thing my C63S Coupe had over the 911 was the sound. But a set of cat bypass pipes and an exhaust solves that easily.
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So you think having an engine over the front axles and RWD is the ideal set up? Ideally, you want weight over the rear tires for traction and weight distribution - either with mid-engine (or front mid-engine like an AMG GT) or rear engine which seems to have worked quite well for 911’s over the last half century considering they beat just about anything out there in their class.
Don’t get me wrong, front engine, RWD cars are tons of fun but have completely different driving dynamics. Once you reach a certain power level, you simply can’t manage all that power to the rear wheels. You need downforce or weight over the rear tires for grip, so it’s inherently at a disadvantage for handling and traction.
I will say that the PDK in my 991.2 is the best transmission I’ve ever had. I drove manuals for 15 years. Getting the C63S in an auto was a hard thing for me to get over, but it worked. The PDK can’t even be compared, it’s definitely smooth when you want it to be, but put it in Sport+ and it will slam your head against the seat when you pull the paddle under wide open throttle. Clinical? Definitely not. Precise and able to place the car whenever you want with extreme confidence? Absolutely.
The only thing my C63S Coupe had over the 911 was the sound. But a set of cat bypass pipes and an exhaust solves that easily.
Don’t get me wrong, front engine, RWD cars are tons of fun but have completely different driving dynamics. Once you reach a certain power level, you simply can’t manage all that power to the rear wheels. You need downforce or weight over the rear tires for grip, so it’s inherently at a disadvantage for handling and traction.
I will say that the PDK in my 991.2 is the best transmission I’ve ever had. I drove manuals for 15 years. Getting the C63S in an auto was a hard thing for me to get over, but it worked. The PDK can’t even be compared, it’s definitely smooth when you want it to be, but put it in Sport+ and it will slam your head against the seat when you pull the paddle under wide open throttle. Clinical? Definitely not. Precise and able to place the car whenever you want with extreme confidence? Absolutely.
The only thing my C63S Coupe had over the 911 was the sound. But a set of cat bypass pipes and an exhaust solves that easily.
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No it's not the ideal setup, but it has its advantages. Ideal would be rear mid engine. Yes, 911s are unbeatable when it comes to traction, but they also had problems in the past to hook the front, because of not enough weight there. Going to a double-wishbone suspension in the new GT3 did wonders. I guess when it comes to the 911, I'm kinda with Jeremy Clarkson on the subject.
However, I take the opinion of Chris Harris when it comes to the 911.
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I do like Chris Harris, but I also think he's a bit of a fanboy when it comes to the 911. Nothing wrong with that. We all have our preferences. If I boil it down at the end of the day it comes down to the car I buy needs to be useable for me. I don't have much interest in a car that only works for some occasions. I don't see the 911 as a replacement for the C63. The C63 is a GT. Classic front engine, RWD, useable rear seats at least for shorter distances and trunk for the luggage and gear when going on a grand tour. Technically, the 911 is a GT as well, but it's really more sports car than GT. The rear seats are pointless and room for cargo is limited. For example the kind of ED trip I did with the C63 would be very difficult with the 911. Driving around Europe for 2 months with two suitcases and friends and family in the car would not be doable in a 911. I could see it as a weekend car in addition to the C63. So I guess it comes down to if you want a GT or a sports car.
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All great view points , and yes it boils down to what you want.
Me personally , I think I should have gone with the S now ....."shaking my head" oh well .. The next Coupe will make up for it.
With that said , I will jump to a AMG GT , 992 C or Mclaren 570s
Wife has the SUV for Family needs and trips. [Paid off]
The daily will stay something hybrid {Paid off]
My weekend Coupe will all-ways be a upper end 2 door coupe with nothing less than 200 MPH on the dash.
Me personally , I think I should have gone with the S now ....."shaking my head" oh well .. The next Coupe will make up for it.
With that said , I will jump to a AMG GT , 992 C or Mclaren 570s
Wife has the SUV for Family needs and trips. [Paid off]
The daily will stay something hybrid {Paid off]
My weekend Coupe will all-ways be a upper end 2 door coupe with nothing less than 200 MPH on the dash.
Last edited by FromV4_to_C63; May 28, 2021 at 01:04 PM.
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I found the C63S Coupe, while somewhat practical, is not something that is comfortable for 4 adults to ride in for any extended period of time. The Coupe is a GT car, but a very unpractical one if you’re hauling people in the back seats on the daily. The sedan makes the most sense, but I’ve never liked the way it looked - it’s just incredibly boring looking to me.
The 911 rear seats are ideal for young kids, a dog, or just throwing crap in the back because it allows for a ton of storage (in addition to having the frunk storage). If you’re 5’ 5” and under, you are good to sit back there. The 911 also has a much more compliant ride than the Coupe, and I’m actually more comfortable in it than the AMG which was on the harsher side.
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My insurance rates dropped when I moved into a 991.2 from the C63S Coupe. Both are 2017 models and the 911 I bought was optioned out to nearly 120k when new.
I found the C63S Coupe, while somewhat practical, is not something that is comfortable for 4 adults to ride in for any extended period of time. The Coupe is a GT car, but a very unpractical one if you’re hauling people in the back seats on the daily. The sedan makes the most sense, but I’ve never liked the way it looked - it’s just incredibly boring looking to me.
The 911 rear seats are ideal for young kids, a dog, or just throwing crap in the back because it allows for a ton of storage (in addition to having the frunk storage). If you’re 5’ 5” and under, you are good to sit back there. The 911 also has a much more compliant ride than the Coupe, and I’m actually more comfortable in it than the AMG which was on the harsher side.
I found the C63S Coupe, while somewhat practical, is not something that is comfortable for 4 adults to ride in for any extended period of time. The Coupe is a GT car, but a very unpractical one if you’re hauling people in the back seats on the daily. The sedan makes the most sense, but I’ve never liked the way it looked - it’s just incredibly boring looking to me.
The 911 rear seats are ideal for young kids, a dog, or just throwing crap in the back because it allows for a ton of storage (in addition to having the frunk storage). If you’re 5’ 5” and under, you are good to sit back there. The 911 also has a much more compliant ride than the Coupe, and I’m actually more comfortable in it than the AMG which was on the harsher side.
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Driving in the french Alps , killer photos of Hans and Franz .... Great info to boot!
I have finally created a thread were information is great and we are all enjoying the community
Did I mention I should have purchased the "S'
You Guys&Gals have safe weekend , se ya on the beach
I have finally created a thread were information is great and we are all enjoying the community
Did I mention I should have purchased the "S'
You Guys&Gals have safe weekend , se ya on the beach
