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Old 07-25-2021, 04:25 PM
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All orders on MY22 AMG V8 canceled

There are some SA people telling me this but idk how true it is. Can anyone confirm this to be 100%? I’m trying to put in an order for the gt63s and g63 and my SA told me he have no idea
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Yes, it appears to be the case. There's a thread in the W213 section. Folks are getting their E63 and GT63 orders cancelled. Supposedly due to not meeting the average fleet fuel efficiency and I guess it's cheaper to stop the production of all V8 models than getting fined billions in Euros. The writing was on the wall. From what I'm hearing all V8 orders have been cancelled.

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Sad if this is true. Wasn't ready to say goodbye to the V8s just yet. If you have one hold onto it for as long as you can.
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Not canceled, yet. Just “delayed until further notice” as of today. Only E63 models and 4 door GT63/S.
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Originally Posted by gmpalm2
Sad if this is true. Wasn't ready to say goodbye to the V8s just yet. If you have one hold onto it for as long as you can.
Since this appears to be the end of this C63 V8 model, I see Mercedes Benz has an Extended Warranty Program for One Year, Two Year or Three Years that can be purchased before the original 4 Year Warranty is over. I purchased (new) my C63s coupe in April, 2019 so I still have time to decide my options.
The MB Extended Warranty is transferable to any new owner and is 100% refundable while your vehicle is still under the Original Warranty.
I will need to call the MB Dealership to get more details on price.
It would seem less hassle purchasing the Extended Warranty through MB than dealing with or waiting for or not reading the fine print of a 3rd Party Company authorization. Simply bring your car into MB Dealership and have then repair it.

But will look into this

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Really hoping they don't delay/cancel the MY22 C63 Coupes. Ended up ordering one last week instead of buying an MY21 to get the perfect spec I wanted. Has anyone heard any news about the C63 V8 for 2022?
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Originally Posted by 3lectr0bar0n
Really hoping they don't delay/cancel the MY22 C63 Coupes. Ended up ordering one last week instead of buying an MY21 to get the perfect spec I wanted. Has anyone heard any news about the C63 V8 for 2022?
haven’t heard anything. My SA haven’t got a clue. I’m really hoping that this is not true. I don’t mind a delay but to cancel all my22 is going to push customer away to bmw and audi. Honestly I’m pretty disappointed as of now as I’m trying to get as many v8 amg as I can before they’re gone forever. Finger crossed
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Yes, it appears to be the case. There's a thread in the W213 section. Folks are getting their E63 and GT63 orders cancelled. Supposedly due to not meeting the average fleet fuel efficiency and I guess it's cheaper to stop the production of all V8 models than getting fined billions in Euros. The writing was on the wall. From what I'm hearing all V8 orders have been cancelled.
If this is true, I'm feeling so vindicated that I decided to pull the trigger on one of the final 2021 magno whites instead of ordering a 2022!

I haven't seen anything specifically about the C63's but it may be just a matter of time. From Shahul on the W213 thread:

following MY22 model variants are delayed until further notice.
 MY22 E63 S Sedan (213.089)
 MY22 E63 S Wagon (213.289)
 MY22 GT 63 4-Door Coupe (290.688)
 MY22 GT 63 S 4-Door Coupe (290.689
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...2-build-9.html

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Originally Posted by koifysh
There are some SA people telling me this but idk how true it is. Can anyone confirm this to be 100%? I’m trying to put in an order for the gt63s and g63 and my SA told me he have no idea
Wow OP, you're getting ready to drop 325K+ and they don't want your money?? MB is insane!
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Wow OP, you're getting ready to drop 325K+ and they don't want your money?? MB is insane!
Wasn't trying to spend nearly that much but when I was trying to order a C63s it felt like MB didn't want my money. Was working with a handful of different dealers and never got the same answer out of any of them during the order process. It was a huge pain in the ***. Eventually just said screw it and found one at a dealer across the country that matched my build like 95%. Even that dealer was a nightmare to deal with and after dropping almost $100k I felt like I would have gotten better customer service at the Hyundai dealer down the street.
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Wow OP, you're getting ready to drop 325K+ and they don't want your money?? MB is insane!
Times have changed.
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Pretty sure they "legally" could not fill the orders if they are not making the required performance numbers for all of the EPA import rules and such. Sucks but really makes me glad I bought the 21 when I did.
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Originally Posted by gmpalm2
Wasn't trying to spend nearly that much but when I was trying to order a C63s it felt like MB didn't want my money. Was working with a handful of different dealers and never got the same answer out of any of them during the order process. It was a huge pain in the ***. Eventually just said screw it and found one at a dealer across the country that matched my build like 95%. Even that dealer was a nightmare to deal with and after dropping almost $100k I felt like I would have gotten better customer service at the Hyundai dealer down the street.
Well, if you think about it, a dealer across the country has not got much incentive; aside from being a decent human, to give 'good customer service' from that far away. If he knows he has the sale why would be be polite or even grateful? He would never have to see you F2F and that makes it so much less personal you know what I mean? It is unfortunate that you felt that way at the end of the deal though. Always give them feedback about your thoughts because a lot of dealers get ripped for bad customer service.
At least you got an AMG though huh?
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sad news indeed. other then the car i learnt to drive on, theyve all been v8s and sounds like im gonna have a hard time finding a replacement that even after 3 years would still put a smile on my face like this c63s does
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sad news indeed. other then the car i learnt to drive on, theyve all been v8s and sounds like im gonna have a hard time finding a replacement that even after 3 years would still put a smile on my face like this c63s does
We might not like the idea of 4 pot + EM but it may put a smile on your face when you feel the instant torque ...
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We might not like the idea of 4 pot + EM but it may put a smile on your face when you feel the instant torque ...
EV will give you instant torque too. All the while lacking emotion. At some point it's not only about 0-60.
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EV will give you instant torque too. All the while lacking emotion. At some point it's not only about 0-60.
We are talking about the same...I called it EM as "electric motor"...can't call it EV as it still has the 4-pot. But yeah, we are all skeptical that it looses its temperament and character...but I am also sure as time goes on we all need to come around.

One other side effect if moving to EV....there is so much less aftermarket support and possible upgrades. You are left to maybe wheels, a few spoilers, skirts and diffusers....and that's about it. Even suspension changes will be hard to come by as they all integrated into the smart controls and probably nobody wants to mess with that. So, car enthusiast will be left out...its already more difficult today vs many years ago and will just become less and less possible for the average car enthusiast. So, eventually we all drive in the same, super fast, super quiet cars...personality lost.
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EV will give you instant torque too. All the while lacking emotion. At some point it's not only about 0-60.
This
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I just heard back from my MB sales rep. They haven't heard anything about the C63's being cancelled. As far as they know, only the MY2022 builds mentioned above are on the chopping block. So it's possible the V8 C63 just might get to live for another year?

Edit: Shahul on the W213 thread just confirmed that the 2022 C63 coupes will be built, they have 2 arriving later this year.

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Wasn't trying to spend nearly that much but when I was trying to order a C63s it felt like MB didn't want my money. Was working with a handful of different dealers and never got the same answer out of any of them during the order process. It was a huge pain in the ***. Eventually just said screw it and found one at a dealer across the country that matched my build like 95%. Even that dealer was a nightmare to deal with and after dropping almost $100k I felt like I would have gotten better customer service at the Hyundai dealer down the street.
Was it a 2021 C63s or 2022 that you tried to build? I had a similar experience when I tried to build a 2022 C63s coupe. Most of them brushed me off and for the most part told me their build slots were already full. I found a local dealer that was willing to take my order, but after a few back and forth emails they stopped responding. I then lucked out and found a 2021 a few states away that's ~90% match for my build. But unlike the dealer you bought yours from, this one has been extremely nice and helpful so far. The gm reached out to me after I put down a deposit and they're even giving me almost 2% off MSRP while some dealers were marking up anywhere from $3-5k. At the same time, I ran into some dealers that flat out refused to sell inventory cars to out of state buyers.

My car just reached port over the weekend, so hopefully I should have it within the next 2-3 weeks.
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I just heard back from my MB sales rep. They haven't heard anything about the C63's being cancelled. As far as they know, only the MY2022 builds mentioned above are on the chopping block. So it's possible the V8 C63 just might get to live for another year?

Edit: Shahul on the W213 thread just confirmed that the 2022 C63 coupes will be built, they have 2 arriving later this year.
Kinda strange that they would stop the lower volume models, but somewhat explains why they haven't unveiled the GT63 facelift yet, and the GT53 can be ordered with a V8 appearance package to make it look like the GT63. For the fleet average, they sell more C63 than some of these other AMG models combined, but it looks like the 2022 C63S coupe and cab is a rather small production run, and no more C63 non-S which was more popular in Europe.
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Kinda strange that they would stop the lower volume models, but somewhat explains why they haven't unveiled the GT63 facelift yet, and the GT53 can be ordered with a V8 appearance package to make it look like the GT63. For the fleet average, they sell more C63 than some of these other AMG models combined, but it looks like the 2022 C63S coupe and cab is a rather small production run, and no more C63 non-S which was more popular in Europe.
Yeah I was pretty worried about them stopping the C63s since they are pretty high volume compared to the MY22 E63/GT63's that got canceled. Not completely sure, but maybe emissions on those two are worse than the C63?

I also heard about the MY22 production run being small from a dealer a few weeks ago.
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Yeah I was pretty worried about them stopping the C63s since they are pretty high volume compared to the MY22 E63/GT63's that got canceled. Not completely sure, but maybe emissions on those two are worse than the C63?

I also heard about the MY22 production run being small from a dealer a few weeks ago.
They are marginally higher. C63S is 248 g/km of CO2 and the E63S is 267 g/km for example. So yes a bit higher. Considering that the required fleet average is 95 g/km they are all way off and bring up the average, but any reduction in models and volume helps I suppose.
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They are marginally higher. C63S is 248 g/km of CO2 and the E63S is 267 g/km for example. So yes a bit higher. Considering that the required fleet average is 95 g/km they are all way off and bring up the average, but any reduction in models and volume helps I suppose.
Ah damn I see, thanks for the insight! Seems like most MB vehicles (even non-AMG) are over that 95 g/km requirement except for the hybrids. Guess we'll be praying for the next month till the MY22 C63 production hopefully starts in September as planned for now haha.
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Ah damn I see, thanks for the insight! Seems like most MB vehicles (even non-AMG) are over that 95 g/km requirement except for the hybrids. Guess we'll be praying for the next month till the MY22 C63 production hopefully starts in September as planned for now haha.
Yeah, the only real way to get the fleet average down is to aggressively sell volume BEVs to the average customer, which count for zero CO2 emissions, but MB has been asleep behind the wheel and are waking up now. If they had come out with BEVs several years ago we could still enjoy these AMGs in the small numbers they are sold overall and Daimler wouldn't be facing billions in fines. It's not like they didn't know this was coming.

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