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Old Aug 15, 2021 | 04:27 PM
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CLose Wheel Gap , HELP

Hey Fam

What is the quickest way to close the wheel gap and still look good. [not slammed or riced out]
Please provide the link to the best springs for my model and year.
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Old Aug 15, 2021 | 04:43 PM
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Spacers and have 4 of your fat friends seat in the car. 😛
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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 08:55 AM
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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 12:12 PM
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Thinking of going with

PRO-KIT Performance Springs (Set of 4 Springs)

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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 01:41 PM
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KW-HAS kit or any brand name HAS Kit (H&R..), I will never do fixed springs again...never quite the adjustments I like, often uneven front and rear, can't change depending on wheel setup etc. HAS kits are just a little more money, same install and so much more value.
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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 01:51 PM
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Good Stuff.
Think i will go with a KW-HAS kit
sure its a bit more.
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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 01:59 PM
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Another adjustable option is the H&R VTF''s. I've had them on around 10k and they improved ride quality but facelift stock ride quality is much better than prefacelift so not sure the difference you will feel .

Then you will want spacers if on oem wheels stock size tires. I find that 15mm front & 12mm rear is cleanest. But you could get away with going a little more depending on how low and aggressive you want to go.
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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 03:20 PM
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Carbahn has a set as well although they are a little more than a KW kit.
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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 04:54 PM
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Carbahn has a set as well although they are a little more than a KW kit.
I always wonder if guys like Carbahn, Weistec, Renntech really make their own suspension parts or just label with KW, H&R, Eibach etc. Suspension part development and manufacturing is not cheap and fast and can't see that cost effective...
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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 05:36 PM
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I'm currently on eibachs on my sedan and find the drop perfect.
Bilstein also have an adjustable spring kit though there isn't much info on the web about them and I haven't seen anyone with them installed yet.
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I always wonder if guys like Carbahn, Weistec, Renntech really make their own suspension parts or just label with KW, H&R, Eibach etc. Suspension part development and manufacturing is not cheap and fast and can't see that cost effective...
Who knows but Steve Dinan did point out some differences with his kit and some of the others on the market in one of the videos on his site. Something about the bump stops mainly if I recall correctly. I was thinking about them when they were on sale a couple months ago, other than that can't justify the price hike over the KW's.
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Wow , all good info to start this Journey
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Old Aug 17, 2021 | 12:45 AM
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I just got my car which is lowered on H&Rs. It's ever so slightly lower than I'd like, but looking at the options, it's the one that lowers the car the least to begin with (0.7") so I think I'll have to stick with it as I don't want to go on air. Running spacers as well, nice flush look but the rear will rub when hitting dips/bumps at speed, not the worst thing I've experienced but it is slightly annoying.
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That is my fear , stock might be the way to go for me.
When I enter the Porsche sector, Then i can enjoy the default lower flush look.

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Originally Posted by FromV4_to_C63
That is my fear , stock might be the way to go for me.
When I enter the Porsche sector, Then i can enjoy the default lower flush look.
I am running on my KW-HAS and made it a pretty nice, tight fit and never rubbed. That's another the reason to use a HAS kit...you lower it as much as you like, not more and not less.
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 01:04 AM
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I am running on my KW-HAS and made it a pretty nice, tight fit and never rubbed. That's another the reason to use a HAS kit...you lower it as much as you like, not more and not less.
Can you elaborate? I understand the KW-HAS is adjustable, but I was under the impression the minimum you had to drop was around 1", is that not the case? Are you saying you drop say, only 0.25"?
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by shootermcgav1n
Can you elaborate? I understand the KW-HAS is adjustable, but I was under the impression the minimum you had to drop was around 1", is that not the case? Are you saying you drop say, only 0.25"?
According to KW spec the lowering range is 0"-0.8"/0"-1.2" for front and rear...I never tested it as its kind of pointless but at least it means you can choose anything from stock height to 0.8"/1.2" for front/rear.
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 01:45 PM
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According to KW spec the lowering range is 0"-0.8"/0"-1.2" for front and rear...I never tested it as its kind of pointless but at least it means you can choose anything from stock height to 0.8"/1.2" for front/rear.
Ah I must've misunderstood what was being presented.

What're your thoughts on the ride quality vs stock or springs only?

How many miles so far? And what's the process for adjusting ride height? as in, is it something you can do yourself in the garage, or it has to go on a lift at a shop?
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Originally Posted by shootermcgav1n
Ah I must've misunderstood what was being presented.

What're your thoughts on the ride quality vs stock or springs only?

How many miles so far? And what's the process for adjusting ride height? as in, is it something you can do yourself in the garage, or it has to go on a lift at a shop?
Its a little stiffer but it is to my taste and not overly harsh. Still same difference between OEM comfort and sport/sport+ damper settings. I have 12k miles on the KW and have no complaints aka no squeaks, no rattle just better handling and better looks. To adjust you can do it in your garage with a jack stand. Need to take the wheel off, loosen the set screws and adjust the collars with the supplied wrench. The rear is a little tight to get there but still doable with just taking the wheel off. I adjusted a few times to find the perfect height I liked. Only thing to mention is once you lowered you will add camber and have more inner edge wear of the tires. You can add camber kits. I still have a KMAC front camber kit in my garage...not installed. Apparently, installing this kit is a pain. My tires last 10k or less, less in front where my camber is -2.8 to -3 as I am pretty low (as close as possible w/o rubbing, when turning the wheel I have only a very small gap to top of fender).
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 02:21 PM
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Its a little stiffer but it is to my taste and not overly harsh. Still same difference between OEM comfort and sport/sport+ damper settings. I have 12k miles on the KW and have no complaints aka no squeaks, no rattle just better handling and better looks. To adjust you can do it in your garage with a jack stand. Need to take the wheel off, loosen the set screws and adjust the collars with the supplied wrench. The rear is a little tight to get there but still doable with just taking the wheel off. I adjusted a few times to find the perfect height I liked. Only thing to mention is once you lowered you will add camber and have more inner edge wear of the tires. You can add camber kits. I still have a KMAC front camber kit in my garage...not installed. Apparently, installing this kit is a pain. My tires last 10k or less, less in front where my camber is -2.8 to -3 as I am pretty low (as close as possible w/o rubbing, when turning the wheel I have only a very small gap to top of fender).
Are you running spacers also? My only complaint w/the H&Rs (with spacers) is the slight rubbing/scraping I get in the rears when going over higher speed bumps/dips. I'm thinking raising it a tad would probably help?
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Originally Posted by shootermcgav1n
Are you running spacers also? My only complaint w/the H&Rs (with spacers) is the slight rubbing/scraping I get in the rears when going over higher speed bumps/dips. I'm thinking raising it a tad would probably help?
I posted pics of my setup a few times before but here is one.

In terms of your rubbing - sounds like you have the wrong spacers. I have custom wheels with offsets chosen to be as flush as possible w/o rubbing even when fully loaded. My spec: 20x9.5+35 with 265/30 and 20x10.5+57 with 285/30





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I'm about as low as you are, on stock wheels, agree the spacers may be a tad aggressive as it pokes ever so slightly in the rear.

Car looks great btw, perfect stance.
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