C63s kicks like a hammer when ESP off
#1
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C63s kicks like a hammer when ESP off
Hi guys, I have a quite strange issue.
When I turn the ESP off completely (I know the difference between Sport Handling and OFF) and go full throttle and wheels are spinning, the rear of the car is vibrating like a hell.
It's like ESP kicks in and tries to stop the spinning and it kinda stops even in the 1st gear and in rain. If you would like to draw the 20 meters line, it wouldn't do it.
If I powerslide it goes smoothly until the angle nearly reaches 0. So the effect is very noticeable when wheels are spinning on straight. During powerslide I can go with the 2nd or 3rd gear like a champ.
Do you think it can be deformed wheels? I have a feeling that the rear right wheel is not smooth and it impacts on the vibration.
It's like something is bouncing in the trunk or rubber hummer is hitting there. Or like a wheel stuttering or stops and goes continuously.
FYI, I have a 1cm hub centric spacers on the rear wheels.
When I turn the ESP off completely (I know the difference between Sport Handling and OFF) and go full throttle and wheels are spinning, the rear of the car is vibrating like a hell.
It's like ESP kicks in and tries to stop the spinning and it kinda stops even in the 1st gear and in rain. If you would like to draw the 20 meters line, it wouldn't do it.
If I powerslide it goes smoothly until the angle nearly reaches 0. So the effect is very noticeable when wheels are spinning on straight. During powerslide I can go with the 2nd or 3rd gear like a champ.
Do you think it can be deformed wheels? I have a feeling that the rear right wheel is not smooth and it impacts on the vibration.
It's like something is bouncing in the trunk or rubber hummer is hitting there. Or like a wheel stuttering or stops and goes continuously.
FYI, I have a 1cm hub centric spacers on the rear wheels.
Last edited by ggogobera; 10-06-2021 at 05:13 PM.
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I believe it’s not by design and that shouldn’t be happening especially on this car.
Should I replace bushings or smt?
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There are some videos on YT where people change parts to fix wheel hop. Fix is based on different things (for instance damaged bushings), but the outcome is one - to fix wheel hop.
I've done a burnout today on a dry surface. If wheels starts to spin real fast and you go full throttle, it goes smoothly.
But, when you go straight without braking that's where hop starts, cuz something isn't stable in the rear suspension.
https://youtu.be/qn9pUFyU9Co
can you check the video and tell me if this is what you are talking about?
can you check the video and tell me if this is what you are talking about?
Wheel hop example. It's very brutal on 0:50s
Last edited by ggogobera; 10-07-2021 at 10:58 AM.
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#8
Wheel hop is common and normal when you're powering out from a dig. It used to happen to me lots on FWD manual transmission cars. To me, it always sounded like someone hitting the front strut tower with a hammer. Not a nice sound, and I'm sure not good for the suspension.
Edit- Just realized you described the sound as hammer like in the thread title. Pretty sure we are all describing the same thing.
Edit- Just realized you described the sound as hammer like in the thread title. Pretty sure we are all describing the same thing.
Last edited by '1663s; 10-08-2021 at 04:59 AM.
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I guess it’s hard to describe the scenario verbally. You need to experience it in real to know better.
Last edited by ggogobera; 10-08-2021 at 05:03 AM.
#10
I get wheel hop when I lose traction in sport traction mode. Usually out of a dig or a first gear pull. However with traction fully off or while just doing drifts and donuts It feels smooth to me.
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Hi guys, I have a quite strange issue.
When I turn the ESP off completely (I know the difference between Sport Handling and OFF) and go full throttle and wheels are spinning, the rear snaptube vidmate of the car is vibrating like a hell.
It's like ESP kicks in and tries to stop the spinning and it kinda stops even in the 1st gear and in rain. If you would like to draw the 20 meters line, it wouldn't do it.
If I powerslide it goes smoothly until the angle nearly reaches 0. So the effect is very noticeable when wheels are spinning on straight. During powerslide I can go with the 2nd or 3rd gear like a champ.
Do you think it can be deformed wheels? I have a feeling that the rear right wheel is not smooth and it impacts on the vibration.
It's like something is bouncing in the trunk or rubber hummer is hitting there. Or like a wheel stuttering or stops and goes continuously.
FYI, I have a 1cm hub centric spacers on the rear wheels.
When I turn the ESP off completely (I know the difference between Sport Handling and OFF) and go full throttle and wheels are spinning, the rear snaptube vidmate of the car is vibrating like a hell.
It's like ESP kicks in and tries to stop the spinning and it kinda stops even in the 1st gear and in rain. If you would like to draw the 20 meters line, it wouldn't do it.
If I powerslide it goes smoothly until the angle nearly reaches 0. So the effect is very noticeable when wheels are spinning on straight. During powerslide I can go with the 2nd or 3rd gear like a champ.
Do you think it can be deformed wheels? I have a feeling that the rear right wheel is not smooth and it impacts on the vibration.
It's like something is bouncing in the trunk or rubber hummer is hitting there. Or like a wheel stuttering or stops and goes continuously.
FYI, I have a 1cm hub centric spacers on the rear wheels.
Last edited by garyharbon; 10-09-2021 at 07:06 PM.
#14
I messed around with launch control on mine for the first time this weekend. In ESP sport and ESP off at the stock dial setting, there was quite a lot of wheel hop. I adjusted the suspension to comfort and set the TC dial at 8 and it launched perfectly with the the right amount of wheelspin and no wheel hop.
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I messed around with launch control on mine for the first time this weekend. In ESP sport and ESP off at the stock dial setting, there was quite a lot of wheel hop. I adjusted the suspension to comfort and set the TC dial at 8 and it launched perfectly with the the right amount of wheelspin and no wheel hop.
My C class is old mode without TC settings.