Does anybody have experience with the CSF radiator for Mercedes C63S AMG?
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2021 C63s AMG Coupe
Does anybody have experience with the CSF radiator for Mercedes C63S AMG?
Is the CSF radiator a good option or a waste of money? Are there quality issues i should be concerned about?
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So, coming from another platform, Wagoner actually posted data and multiple run dyno's; CSF never posted data. Look into BMW F80-F82 comparisons, there are many back to back logs that show CSF IAT getting hotter and hotter and dyno's showing power go down run after run. Wagoner have consistent IAT and dyno numbers with 4-5+ back to back runs. With this platform, I should note, I have no experience, yet.
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Thank you. Yeah I am leaning more towards Wagner at this point. I'm not looking to do something like the PTG system with separate cooling circuit. That's more than I'm willing to do at this point, and it seems that a quality radiator upgrade would be significantly beneficial by itself.
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17 C63S Coupe PTG1000
I do not have experience in the realm of M177/178 cooling but living in the south, this will be my next frontier of upgrades. I haven't pushed the car hard in blistering heat (95*+) yet, but assume temps will be on the borderline of "sketch" in the summer months.
I know VRP has a cooling suite at a very decent price point but am unaware of quality and performance increases. The old adage of "you get what you pay for" is certainly floating around my thoughts with this brand. That goes without saying I have zero experience with their products and for all I know could be fantastic quality & value.
https://www.vrpspeed.com/product-cat...amg-m177-m178/
I know VRP has a cooling suite at a very decent price point but am unaware of quality and performance increases. The old adage of "you get what you pay for" is certainly floating around my thoughts with this brand. That goes without saying I have zero experience with their products and for all I know could be fantastic quality & value.
https://www.vrpspeed.com/product-cat...amg-m177-m178/
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'20 C63s Coupe stage 4 @850whp
The wagner kit also has an oil cooler, and the heat exchanger has 50% more volume than the CSF Kit. My tuner told me the CSF kit would fine-ish as well but advised the wagner kit because it was tried and tested dozens of times. Also looks prettier in black imho 
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16' C63s, 22' RAM 1500
I purchased the front Heat exchanger which cools down the transmission. works well. welds look great. does cool down compared to stock btw. I would've ordered the 2 smaller auxiliary heat exchangers but they are currently back ordered till next year
.. CSF is down the street from me. Ravi is a great sales person.
.. CSF is down the street from me. Ravi is a great sales person.
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2020 s63 amg............2018 e63s amg w213............2017 C63s Coupe W205
I have the CSF and Ive been super happy with the results. They do have plenty of data available, both on their website, and upon request.
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We recently released a new cooling system as well. Lots of testing went into backing up these claims.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...1-1-5-2-a.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...1-1-5-2-a.html
