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Haha, yeah not sure how many actually know that the C43 started as a 4.3l V8 in 1998 back when the numbers in the badge still signified the engine displacement and there was no such thing as a C63. The current C63 would be a C40 if the numbers still meant something. Before that came the C36 with a 3.6l I6, and I guess what we now think of as the C63 was the C55 with, you guessed it, a 5.5l V8. So yeah, not exactly sure when this dilution of the brand supposedly happened. Moers took the brand from a low volume niche brand to a more mainstream brand, so maybe that's when it happened. The increased volume certainly took away some of the special feeling, and as always, the lower cost models make up the bulk of the volume.
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Saw this video randomly on youtube, the language according to Google seems to be in Korean but sharing because it seems to showcase a C63 with minimal camo and then the C43 after that. Too bad the interior of the C63 isn't shown in this video though.
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Haha, yeah not sure how many actually know that the C43 started as a 4.3l V8 in 1998 back when the numbers in the badge still signified the engine displacement and there was no such thing as a C63. The current C63 would be a C40 if the numbers still meant something. Before that came the C36 with a 3.6l I6, and I guess what we now think of as the C63 was the C55 with, you guessed it, a 5.5l V8. So yeah, not exactly sure when this dilution of the brand supposedly happened. Moers took the brand from a low volume niche brand to a more mainstream brand, so maybe that's when it happened. The increased volume certainly took away some of the special feeling, and as always, the lower cost models make up the bulk of the volume.
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Saw this video randomly on youtube, the language according to Google seems to be in Korean but sharing because it seems to showcase a C63 with minimal camo and then the C43 after that. Too bad the interior of the C63 isn't shown in this video though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdL-10ljtzM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdL-10ljtzM
need to see a coupe since the sedan was never sporty anyway as even with the w205 the sedan isnt wider than other c class sedans
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The coupe might take a little longer, after all the CLE has to come out first which was rumoured to be announced this year and then the AMG models follow thereafter.
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what you see is what you are going to get in the c63. the 43 it appears they are trying to make it a "real" amg. You may see some slight changes like full carbon bucket seats or some different fabrics/leathers but overall design is what you are going to get.
At least the tire setup from factory is a step in the right direction. I assume the c63 will be able to fit some meaty tires to put that 4 banger to the ground. wont really need to do much. has race mode and launch control. cool. engine is definitely a let down per spec sheet. 4.6 0-60. i assume testing will reveal its faster. The question becomes how far can that little amg engine be pushed. looks like it is closed deck and has forged pistons. So what can those rods take and what is the turbo limit? Probably only turbo upgrade option will be to bore it out maybe depending on what electronics looks like. This car will probably be great for people that dont want to mod, but modding it may prove to be difficult. I am sure the c63 with the extra electronics will only be even more difficult to properly tune. sad day to see this becoming reality. just maybe there is a chance this is all a joke the the c63 will have the v8.
At least the tire setup from factory is a step in the right direction. I assume the c63 will be able to fit some meaty tires to put that 4 banger to the ground. wont really need to do much. has race mode and launch control. cool. engine is definitely a let down per spec sheet. 4.6 0-60. i assume testing will reveal its faster. The question becomes how far can that little amg engine be pushed. looks like it is closed deck and has forged pistons. So what can those rods take and what is the turbo limit? Probably only turbo upgrade option will be to bore it out maybe depending on what electronics looks like. This car will probably be great for people that dont want to mod, but modding it may prove to be difficult. I am sure the c63 with the extra electronics will only be even more difficult to properly tune. sad day to see this becoming reality. just maybe there is a chance this is all a joke the the c63 will have the v8.
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I thought my eyes were deceiving me as well...
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Edit: Nevermind, sorry about that. I realized this is a duplicated post as I already posted the link I found of the C63 W206 two post above.
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More news (with official power figures) for the minority here that is interested, W206 C 63 powered by e-performance.... 470bhp from the engine and 200ish bhp from the electric motor making a combined 670bhp, 553lb ft. of torque.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...on-makes-debut
Some images from the article:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/auto...?itok=wXl9N-Qx
https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/auto...?itok=RF2_mst_
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...on-makes-debut
Some images from the article:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/auto...?itok=wXl9N-Qx
https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/auto...?itok=RF2_mst_
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AMG C63s
More news (with official power figures) for the minority here that is interested, W206 C 63 powered by e-performance.... 470bhp from the engine and 200ish bhp from the electric motor making a combined 670bhp, 553lb ft. of torque.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...on-makes-debut
Some images from the article:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/auto...?itok=wXl9N-Qx
https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/auto...?itok=RF2_mst_
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...on-makes-debut
Some images from the article:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/auto...?itok=wXl9N-Qx
https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/auto...?itok=RF2_mst_
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Yeah, it's the same old speculative and poorly researched content with glaring errors. They still somehow think that it'll be lighter than the outgoing C63 sedan when we already know that the just announced C43 with the same engine, transmission, 48V system, ISG and e-turbo weighs more than both the outgoing C43 and C63 sedans. The new C63 will add a heavy water cooled high voltage battery, electric motor, 2-speed transmission and electronic locking differential to the equation. Unless they completely revised the W206 architecture and went full carbon fiber with the C63 I don't know in what universe adding even more equipment is gonna result in a lighter car.
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Yeah, it's the same old speculative and poorly researched content with glaring errors. They still somehow think that it'll be lighter than the outgoing C63 sedan when we already know that the just announced C43 with the same engine, transmission, 48V system, ISG and e-turbo weighs more than both the outgoing C43 and C63 sedans. The new C63 will add a heavy water cooled high voltage battery, electric motor, 2-speed transmission and electronic locking differential to the equation. Unless they completely revised the W206 architecture and went full carbon fiber with the C63 I don't know in what universe adding even more equipment is gonna result in a lighter car.
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The max hp/torque they claim to have for 10(?) seconds or so is no slouch and will move that heavy beast for sure...but I am experiencing first hand what weight does. My 911 has so much less power than my C63s and it just moves so much faster from standstill (well, its weight and traction, which my 285's never were able to get to the street properly).
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Absolutely. I love my C63, but it would be that much better with 500 lbs less. I'm kinda in a unique situation with having two cars at fairly opposite ends of the spectrum in my garage. My wife drives a 2004 VW Beetle, only has 41k miles on it. I like to drive it particularly around town for a couple of reasons and even more as the years go by. It's about as far from a performance car as you can get, but the naturally aspirated engine is so much nicer to drive than any of today's more powerful 2.0 liter turbo engines. There's no turbo lag or hockey stick response. The second reason is the short wheelbase combined with about a 2800 lbs curb weight. Even with just only about 100 hp, this car is fun to toss around town. Still has hydraulic steering, too. Every time I drive it I'm fully aware that it weighs over 1000 lbs less than my C63. They don't build no frills simple cars like this anymore. You can indeed feel that very well. I also don't buy into "the weight is low down" excuse that's so often used today with electrified vehicles. You still have to make all that weight change direction and the suspensions are overworked keeping it all in check. Not to mention the tires. You can't hide inertia or change the laws of physics. There's no doubt that the new C63 will be a rocket off the line just bombing down a straight road. It'll be a different story when you have to change directions. Even the Taycan, which is lauded for its handling given the 5000 lbs curb weight is only good up to a certain point. Once you feel the weight, you really feel it. Most reviewers have commented on how the GT 63 S E Performance's dynamics suffer from all the added weight, and that's a heavy car to begin with.
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No worries, even car magazine crasp for news stories. I have seen the pics of the colored C before but every story may have some bits of updated information. I just thought it was funny they referred to the outgoing model as a 4matic.
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definitely has a wider front track, new design language for the front bumper on flagship cars and a different hood with what looks like an extraction vent between the power domes.
but at 4400+ pounds...
interesting to see the 4 cylinder make even more power than the 45 S models.
but at 4400+ pounds...
interesting to see the 4 cylinder make even more power than the 45 S models.
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definitely has a wider front track, new design language for the front bumper on flagship cars and a different hood with what looks like an extraction vent between the power domes.
but at 4400+ pounds...
interesting to see the 4 cylinder make even more power than the 45 S models.
but at 4400+ pounds...
interesting to see the 4 cylinder make even more power than the 45 S models.
