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Old Apr 7, 2023 | 12:57 PM
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Hi my rear diff has gone on my w205 c63 and a new one fromMB is £4537 if I got hold of a used one does it have to be a perfect match to mine or is there an alternative
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Old Apr 9, 2023 | 02:45 PM
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The first thing you'd need to know to find a used replacement rear diff is to know whether or not you have the electronic diff which is in the C63 S. I'm not sure if the same diff is used on other AMG models... it's possible.

If you've had the car into MB and they have said the diff is broken then I'd be inclined to see if you can get a second opinion - the dealerships are all too keen on selling you a £4.5k part plus labour to fit it when quite often things can be repaired....


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Old Apr 9, 2023 | 05:56 PM
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How many miles/km have you done?
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Old Apr 9, 2023 | 07:15 PM
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I take it from your post that you own the non-S, but important to specify what model year. The PFL non-S has a mechanical limited slip differential and as all LSDs do, it will wear out eventually and needs to be replaced. The locking mechanism doesn't last forever and once worn you basically have an open differential, but the car is still drivable. The FL and all C63S as mentioned above have an electronically controlled locking differential, which contains a clutch pack to control the locking ratio. Clutch packs eventually wear out, too, of course, but the e-diff does seem to last longer.

So the issue with getting a used one is that you don't know how worn it already is. I suppose if you can get one from a wrecked car with significantly less miles than yours, chances are it has a good amount of life left to it, but you don't know how the car had been driven. For all you know that used diff could be close to worn out as well.

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Old Apr 10, 2023 | 04:49 PM
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My car has done 42000miles it’s a 2015 w205 c63
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Old Apr 10, 2023 | 04:51 PM
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I have the W205 C63 2015 model with 42000miles on the clock
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Old Apr 10, 2023 | 05:31 PM
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That seems low mileage for the diff to be worn out. If you don't mind me asking, what is actually wrong with it, or what are the symptoms that lead to the diagnosis that your diff is gone?
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Old Apr 15, 2023 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
That seems low mileage for the diff to be worn out. If you don't mind me asking, what is actually wrong with it, or what are the symptoms that lead to the diagnosis that your diff is gone?
Do you know if the diff life depend on how the car is driven?

At what mileage would you expect the electronic diff to get worn out? Would it just be the clutch pack you replace then or the entire thing?

Do you know what the symptoms would be of a worn out diff? Thanks
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Originally Posted by untamedd
Do you know if the diff life depend on how the car is driven?

At what mileage would you expect the electronic diff to get worn out? Would it just be the clutch pack you replace then or the entire thing?

Do you know what the symptoms would be of a worn out diff? Thanks
Yes, absolutely depends on how the car is driven. Just driving straight mostly and not breaking traction these diffs are open. The locking mechanisms only wear when they get engaged. The mechanical LSD needs to observe wheel spin on one wheel before it starts locking, whereas the e-diff uses multiple sensors to continuously calculate the correct locking ratio based on driver inputs such as steering angle, speed, acceleration, computed traction etc. and proactively locks and sends torque to the outer wheel when cornering. That's known as torque vectoring. So the more you corner, especially hard cornering or break traction the more the diffs wear.

I haven't really seen any data on the typical lifetime of these diffs. Don't really read of many having to replace them unless they are malfunctioning. In theory if you can find somebody willing to rebuild the e-diff, then yes, essentially you only have to replace the clutch pack. Mechanical LSDs can also be rebuilt, but dealerships likely will just wanna replace them and not rebuild them.

The symptoms of a worn locking differential is that it will always act as an open differential, so you'll get one wheel spin and traction problems, because the diff isn't locking and sending torque to the wheel with traction.

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That seems low mileage for the diff to be worn out. If you don't mind me asking, what is actually wrong with it, or what are the symptoms that lead to the diagnosis that your diff is gone?
my diff was completely destroyed all the cogs inside were worn out or the teeth were broken off so I had to get one from Germany so hopefully this one is better
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my diff was completely destroyed all the cogs inside were worn out or the teeth were broken off so I had to get one from Germany so hopefully this one is better
Ouch! Catastrophic failure then.
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