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Old May 31, 2023 | 03:49 PM
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Stage 4 supporting mods?

For those of you who have gone Stage 4 turbo, what supporting mods have you done? There isn't much posts or literature on this for this platform.

DP and intakes are a given, but what else?

Water meth? Heat exchange? Fuel? Maybe even internals?
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Old May 31, 2023 | 08:20 PM
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I am not sure what you mean by “stage 4” - as the “stage” concept is generally a marketing term/concept. Generally stage 1 versus stage 2 for this platform denotes downpipes and a tune to adjust for the reduction in back pressure.
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Old May 31, 2023 | 08:34 PM
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Upgraded or replaced turbo to target 900+ horsepower.
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Originally Posted by vodand12
Upgraded or replaced turbo to target 900+ horsepower.
900+ horsepower (whp) would put you in rare company on this platform. That said, most certainly fueling upgrades and cooling upgrades are necessary (WMI would be a good thing too - as assists with these two points). Custom tune is obviously necessary too.
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Old Jun 1, 2023 | 06:58 PM
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Just spoke with my tuner. He says that heat exchanger, water methanol, and intakes should be enough for ~950 horsepower (crank).

It's not until you want to run more boost (1000 crank hp and beyond) that you need to do fuel injectors and engine internals.
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Old Jun 2, 2023 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by vodand12
Just spoke with my tuner. He says that heat exchanger, water methanol, and intakes should be enough for ~950 horsepower (crank).

It's not until you want to run more boost (1000 crank hp and beyond) that you need to do fuel injectors and engine internals.
Your "tuner" should lay of the crack... doesnt have a clue what hes talking about on this platform...
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Old Jun 2, 2023 | 07:06 AM
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900+ horsepower (whp) would put you in rare company on this platform. That said, most certainly fueling upgrades and cooling upgrades are necessary (WMI would be a good thing too - as assists with these two points). Custom tune is obviously necessary too.
HUGE *** MOTHA****ING TURBOOOOOOS TOOOO!!!
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Originally Posted by Belong
HUGE *** MOTHA****ING TURBOOOOOOS TOOOO!!!
Most certainly. The only reason it was not listed in my post is the fact that I was responding to OP’s statement about what “stage 4” meant to him - to which he referred to upgraded turbos.
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Your "tuner" should lay of the crack... doesnt have a clue what hes talking about on this platform...
Explain? My tuner has a reputable shop and has done multiple turbo upgrades on M177 for his customers, why is he clueless?
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Explain? My tuner has a reputable shop and has done multiple turbo upgrades on M177 for his customers, why is he clueless?
it's pretty well known that our stock fuel pump maxed out at around 700 whp. Trans need reinforcement for stage 4 turbo along with cooling upgrade, some internal upgrade (piston) and lastly a tuner such as PTG who knows what they're doing
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Originally Posted by vodand12
For those of you who have gone Stage 4 turbo, what supporting mods have you done? There isn't much posts or literature on this for this platform.

DP and intakes are a given, but what else?

Water meth? Heat exchange? Fuel? Maybe even internals?
Money. Lots of money. That’s what else.
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