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Old Mar 8, 2025 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Sargy
Let's get this to 200 pages of M176/M177/M178 Solenoid discussions 🤓
We are currently stuck in traffic, currently at 1st page.
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Old Mar 8, 2025 | 02:16 PM
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Summary:
The engine oil pump solenoid CONNECTOR has been located.
It's at 7 O'clock from crank balancer pulley where we're used seing it.

Unplugging the solenoid is the first step to prevent low oil pressure that burns the oil into black carbon deposits.

The second step is to improve engine oiling:
  1. 5kMi max (not 10k minder)
  2. higher viscosity = piston cooling
  3. better oil specs (PAO or Ester)

Unplugging solenoid has limited results due to limited viscosity. The only way to get pressure is slightly higher viscosity!

The point being that unplugging solenoid does not much magic by itself.
Its what you do afterwards that makes a difference...


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Old Jun 30, 2025 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by zambuzan
No need to unplug it. I got CEL P06DA00 for solenoid wiring failure, got tuner to code it out. Car runs fine (2020 c63), oil pressure is stable. But do your own research.
Can you send me the contact info for the tuner that was able to code it out?
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Old Jun 30, 2025 | 09:57 PM
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Can you send me the contact info for the tuner that was able to code it out?
Any remote tuner would be able to code it out (PTG, ECC Tuned, etc.). I personally went through Weistec because they have an authorized dealer local to me. He was able to do it in minutes. https://www.weistec.com/storelocator...6mKK023Z7PX_Cf

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Old Jul 1, 2025 | 05:06 AM
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If simply coding the code out, no risk of it suddenly working again and then jamming and destroying the engine?
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Old Jul 1, 2025 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
If simply coding the code out, no risk of it suddenly working again and then jamming and destroying the engine?
Only time will tell
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Old Jul 2, 2025 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by zambuzan
Only time will tell

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Old Jul 2, 2025 | 05:13 AM
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after all its just electrical...

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Old Jul 2, 2025 | 05:21 AM
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Old Jul 2, 2025 | 04:02 PM
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Have you done both of these mods on the C 63 and if so, what benefits have you noticed?
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Old Jul 2, 2025 | 06:06 PM
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Have you done both of these mods on the C 63 and if so, what benefits have you noticed?
Given engine condition and driving style, experimental steps shown to help improve:
  • cancel lean laggy acceleration
  • drop extreme engine heat soaks,
  • prevent VVT rattle
  • prevent CPS oil-in-harness
  • cancel banging tranny shifts
  • enable pressure sensitive throttle
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Old Jul 2, 2025 | 07:48 PM
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It does all that even for a w205 c63s?
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Old Jul 2, 2025 | 09:06 PM
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It does all that even for a w205 c63s?
There's value in keeping cars stock for resale.

You're all set unless you recognize....:
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  • high heat,
  • burnt oil
  • sloppy shifts
  • low oil pressure
  • low chassis voltage

Its up to you to decide what you want to personally experiment with.


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Old Aug 4, 2025 | 02:23 PM
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I am doing an oil change and I was going to unplug that solenoid, but I cannot find it!
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Old Aug 4, 2025 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CclassyKev
I am doing an oil change and I was going to unplug that solenoid, but I cannot find it!
I couldn't either! If you get a Weistec tune they could just turn it off for you so you never have to worry about it. I also got their CPC tune and good Lord it's an entirely different beast.
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Old Aug 4, 2025 | 09:52 PM
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I think I found but there’s no way to get to it on the m177 because of that oil pump thing. It’s sandwiched between the alternator and block and oil pump. You’d have to have infant sized hands lol
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Old Aug 5, 2025 | 02:42 AM
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Perhaps we can discover or invent a tool to fit in and get it out
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Old Aug 21, 2025 | 12:40 AM
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Hi, I got problem with my 2021 G63 M177! Can you help me?

Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Please keep in mind if the model year is beyond and including 2019 (others include multiple prior 2019 model year S-Class), it will throw a CEL which you would have to get a dummy oil pump solenoid plugged in outside the engine to disable.
Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Hmmm, I couldn't find the same brochure as the one for the M276 and the M156 in the big thread, however, from googling, I found this PDF that points at the oil pump valve (Y130): https://wright-company.net/wp-conten...017/02/E63.pdf (page 7)

hi, I am a G63 2021 owner and yesterday my car had a CEL, I checked by computer and got the fault code "P06DA00". I want to know if this malfunction will affect the normal operation of the engine. Because my M177 is on the G63 chassis, if the oil pump solenoid valve needs to be replaced, many parts of the front axle have to be disassembled. I don't want my car to be torn apart. I wonder if it is necessary to be replaced or not? Can the CEL be made to disappear by blocking the fault codes?

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Old Aug 21, 2025 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by W464G63
hi, I am a G63 2021 owner and yesterday my car had a CEL, I checked by computer and got the fault code "P06DA00". I want to know if this malfunction will affect the normal operation of the engine. Because my M177 is on the G63 chassis, if the oil pump solenoid valve needs to be replaced, many parts of the front axle have to be disassembled. I don't want my car to be torn apart. I wonder if it is necessary to be replaced or not? Can the CEL be made to disappear by blocking the fault codes?

Thanks a lot!
Check this thread, https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...solenoids.html

Ask there.
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Old Aug 21, 2025 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by W464G63
hi, I am a G63 2021 owner and yesterday my car had a CEL, I checked by computer and got the fault code "P06DA00". I want to know if this malfunction will affect the normal operation of the engine. Because my M177 is on the G63 chassis, if the oil pump solenoid valve needs to be replaced, many parts of the front axle have to be disassembled. I don't want my car to be torn apart. I wonder if it is necessary to be replaced or not? Can the CEL be made to disappear by blocking the fault codes?

Thanks a lot!
In my opinion, do not bother with tearing the car apart for this CEL. My response/experience from a previous post:

No need to unplug [the solenoid]. I got CEL P06DA00 for solenoid wiring failure, got tuner to code it out. Car runs fine (2020 c63), oil pressure is stable. But do your own research. Any remote tuner would be able to code out the CEL (PTG, ECC Tuned, etc.). I personally went through Weistec because they have an authorized dealer local to me. He was able to do it in minutes. https://www.weistec.com/storelocator...6mKK023Z7PX_Cf
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Old Aug 21, 2025 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by zambuzan
In my opinion, do not bother with tearing the car apart for this CEL. My response/experience from a previous post:

No need to unplug [the solenoid]. I got CEL P06DA00 for solenoid wiring failure, got tuner to code it out. Car runs fine (2020 c63), oil pressure is stable. But do your own research. Any remote tuner would be able to code out the CEL (PTG, ECC Tuned, etc.). I personally went through Weistec because they have an authorized dealer local to me. He was able to do it in minutes. https://www.weistec.com/storelocator...6mKK023Z7PX_Cf
Check pressure if good, install external dummy solenoid, clear codes and leave it like that, no more cel.
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Old Aug 22, 2025 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Check pressure if good, install external dummy solenoid, clear codes and leave it like that, no more cel.
Do you mean that after coding the CEL, do I still need to install an additional dummy solenoid? Or is it done after asking a tunner to help with the coding, and I don't need to install this dummy solenoid extra?
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Old Aug 22, 2025 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by zambuzan
In my opinion, do not bother with tearing the car apart for this CEL. My response/experience from a previous post:

No need to unplug [the solenoid]. I got CEL P06DA00 for solenoid wiring failure, got tuner to code it out. Car runs fine (2020 c63), oil pressure is stable. But do your own research. Any remote tuner would be able to code out the CEL (PTG, ECC Tuned, etc.). I personally went through Weistec because they have an authorized dealer local to me. He was able to do it in minutes. https://www.weistec.com/storelocator...6mKK023Z7PX_Cf

Thank you for your reply! This is really helpful to me. This fault is not common in China. When I search for this fault on search engines in my country, there's very little information. Many repair shops say this fault is fatal and must be replaced. I think they're making such comments to make money. Now I've decided to ask a tuner to code the CEL. Thank you!
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Old Aug 22, 2025 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by W464G63
Do you mean that after coding the CEL, do I still need to install an additional dummy solenoid? Or is it done after asking a tunner to help with the coding, and I don't need to install this dummy solenoid extra?
Thanks!
Looks like you replied to the big thread and they replied to you.

You do not have to code the CEL, you check the oil pressure, confirm the oil pressure is good and then install the dummy solenoid outside of the engine. https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post9203776
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Old Oct 4, 2025 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by zambuzan
No need to unplug it. I got CEL P06DA00 for solenoid wiring failure, got tuner to code it out. Car runs fine (2020 c63), oil pressure is stable. But do your own research.
Any updates since you’ve posted this? How’s the car?
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