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Let me put it this way. Curbing nice wheels and ripping off the front lip sucks, so I'm sure glad I have the 360 camera. I have the aero package, which looks like both of the ones you posted have, too, so the front lip can easily be ripped off. Good news is that it's easy to replace, but if you catch the whole bumper on a bad day that is not fun.
As for navigation, that depends. The thing is I don't remember if the 2019+ still have Andorid Auto/Apple CarPlay if it doesn't have the Multimedia package. Opinions are split about the built-in navigation. I like it and it works very well for me. I also always have the map up on the center screen even if I'm not actively navigating, but to see the traffic around me, so I can take alternate routes based on my local knowledge. The must have for me was the digital instrument cluster. What the built-in navigation has over CarPlay is that it takes advantage of all screens including the HUD if you have it to show navigation related information. CarPlay/AA is confined to just the center screen. So just like I have an ultrawide monitor at home so I can have multiple apps side-by-side, being able to do the same in the car between the instrument cluster and the center screen is certainly something I like a lot. Besides, I pretty much always get my cars fully loaded. I have the driver assistance package as well. Even AMG drivers find themselves in stop&go traffic at times, so being able to let the car do the driving in those situations is great. I've also done up to 12 hour road trips in a single day and ADAS makes that so much less fatiguing. When I go for a fun drive in the canyons out here, I can use DISTRONIC and Active Steering while cruising there and back and save all my energy for the fun driving, leaving the mundane driving up to the computer.
Great info. Thanks for your thoughtful replies. The blue car doesn’t have heads up display but that’s not that big of a deal to me. Porsches don’t have it either or at least 911 Turbo S dont, so why would AMG need it? Ha ha I think it’s just a personal preference. Bottom line is the blue one has all those options you’re talking about which are not only helpful but add value to the car and I do personally like the other wheels better for example Corvettes offer carbon fiber wheels that are much more expensive and much lighter, but I don’t likethe aesthetics of them. Seems like the only thing the blue car doesn’t really have to make it fully are bucket performance seats and the heads up display and I’m OK with the sports seat seats.
Great info. Thanks for your thoughtful replies. The blue car doesn’t have heads up display but that’s not that big of a deal to me. Porsches don’t have it either or at least 911 Turbo S dont, so why would AMG need it? Ha ha I think it’s just a personal preference. Bottom line is the blue one has all those options you’re talking about which are not only helpful but add value to the car and I do personally like the other wheels better for example Corvettes offer carbon fiber wheels that are much more expensive and much lighter, but I don’t likethe aesthetics of them. Seems like the only thing the blue car doesn’t really have to make it fully are bucket performance seats and the heads up display and I’m OK with the sports seat seats.
Hmmm, I mean having the heads up display is useful because it also has the rev counter and you can focus in front of you instead of the instrument cluster, but good enough. HUD was a rare option on C-Class vehicles anyways, it was backordered at some time although that might be region specific. Wearing certain sunglasses also is useless to have the HUD because you can't even see the projected image.
OK, so I now see the picture of your navigation on the big screen and that’s really what I want. The Apple CarPlay isn’t quite the same.
and I just parked at the grocery store. the same spot that I scuffed up my carbon lip on my old M3 and I had to literally get out of the car to see how close the enormous curb was!
Yes, heads up display is not a hilll I’m willing to die on if it were navigation and park assist/front camera versus HUD I take the former over the latter
Great info. Thanks for your thoughtful replies. The blue car doesn’t have heads up display but that’s not that big of a deal to me. Porsches don’t have it either or at least 911 Turbo S dont, so why would AMG need it? Ha ha I think it’s just a personal preference. Bottom line is the blue one has all those options you’re talking about which are not only helpful but add value to the car and I do personally like the other wheels better for example Corvettes offer carbon fiber wheels that are much more expensive and much lighter, but I don’t likethe aesthetics of them. Seems like the only thing the blue car doesn’t really have to make it fully are bucket performance seats and the heads up display and I’m OK with the sports seat seats.
I don't have the HUD, either. That and the carbon brakes are the two options I left out. I wear polarized sunglasses, so the HUD is useless as the glasses block it, and the rest of the time I actually find having stuff float in my line of sight annoying, so I end up turning the HUD off in every car I've ever driven with it. The one thing about the HUD that's great is it shows the braking zones when you use Track Pace. That would have been cool at the Nürburgring, but not enough to get it when I end up turning it off anyway.
However, I do have the performance seats. Those were a must for me. Not only do they dial the interior up to 11, they are some of the best seats I've ever sat it. Recaro knows how to make seats. Super comfortable for me even on the longest drives and excellent lateral support. The performance seats also look awesome with the yellow accent interior I optioned. It's one of my favorite parts.
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OK, so I now see the picture of your navigation on the big screen and that’s really what I want. The Apple CarPlay isn’t quite the same.
and I just parked at the grocery store. the same spot that I scuffed up my carbon lip on my old M3 and I had to literally get out of the car to see how close the enormous curb was!
Yeah, I prefer to sit low down in the car, so my side view isn't all that great. Especially parallel parking on the left side of the road would require opening the door to see how close I am to the curb. The right side is fine with the automatic tilt feature of the side mirror, but lining it up using the guide line on the camera beats even the tilted side mirror.
Last edited by superswiss; Feb 14, 2025 at 03:35 PM.
Yes, I agree. I had a 2021 with performance seats and they were super awesome but I’m really limited. These cars are very rare in the states and finding one that hits all of the boxes is nearly impossible. What I’m actually hoping for is to keep my eye out for Performance buckets in the black and white color scheme on eBay or something and putting them in later. Might be wishful thinking, but we’ll see….another thing is believe it or not this is my daily driver so these sport seats are fairly comfortable. You’re absolutely right though those amps go to 11 with the buckets
Morning! I found these on eBay. Maybe they would be a good backup set of wheels. Your comments about how these GT R wheels are deluxe got me to thinking…..
Those are for an actual GT. They will likely not fit. Same design wheels come in different width and with different offsets. You need to get the right ones. Offsets can sometimes be corrected with spacers for correct fitment, but should get the wheels with the proper offset and width. Below are the specs for the coupe.
Looks like it yes. So I am bummed about the performance buckets. Do you think it’s likely I could ever find those on eBay or in these forms? Or what about just getting Recaro seats that aren’t AMG specific or is that a no-no?
Here’s ANOTHER question. The AMG screen (not digital cluster behind the steering wheel) is not a touch screen, it is navigated by the dial and touch pad. Are the after market screens like this one a good idea? Or do they only show Apple screen in other words can the orginal factory setting be shown on this screen? I favor a touch screen tbh https://eurobahndynamics.com/product...RoC1fcQAvD_BwE
Here’s ANOTHER question. The AMG screen (not digital cluster behind the steering wheel) is not a touch screen, it is navigated by the dial and touch pad. Are the after market screens like this one a good idea? Or do they only show Apple screen in other words can the orginal factory setting be shown on this screen? I favor a touch screen tbh https://eurobahndynamics.com/product...RoC1fcQAvD_BwE
I'm not sure there are any for the 2019+ models as their main purpose is to retrofit Android Auto and Apple CarPlay to older cars that don't have it. They have a passthrough mode to show the car's Infotainment screen for vehicle control functionality. These screens only do Android Auto/CarPlay and some media stuff. For controlling vehicle functions you have to switch to the car's own system, and as far as I know the touchscreen doesn't work for that, so you'll be going between touchscreen and physical controls.
Personally I find touchscreens in cars dumb, especially AMGs. Trying to touch any part of the screen while driving with a firm suspension is akin to playing a game of Whac-A-Mole trying to hold one's arm steady mid-air. They are also super distracting as you have to look at them to make sure you touch the right part. Even in non-AMGs I find myself having to rest my hand on the edge of the screen and looking down where I'm touching. The dial and the touchpads on the steering wheel are way more precise. I can operate them largely blindly while driving w/o bumping around with my hand and accidently touching the wrong part of the screen.
Car manufacturers are going back to physical controls. They've realized that making all controls touch controls is dumb and has led to a drop in customer satisfaction. Fishing around on a touchscreen for even the simplest things is just not a very good user experience. Touch as an additional input method is fine for when sitting stationary for example, as long as there are still physical controls. For example my laptop has a touchscreen, too, but I mostly use an external keyboard, monitor and mouse to actually be productive. It's a 2-in-1, so I use the touchscreen in tablet mode for simple things, but for actually doing something productive it's terrible.
In the car, I use voice control for more involving tasks anyway such as entering a navigation destination or I send it to the car from my phone, so I don't actually interact with it much. Most of the things I regularly control I can do from the steering wheel, or the physical buttons in the center console. BTW, the dial doesn't just rotate, but you can also move it up/down and left/right, so it's fairly quickly to precisely navigate around even when using CarPlay. It frankly takes me longer to hit the right part of the touchscreen whenever I drive a newer model than using the dial in my car, not to mention that I have to take my eyes off the road to look at the touchscreen. Best example is when I'm maneuvering around a parking lot. By pushing the dial up/down I can quickly change the camera perspectives blindly while maneuvering whereas with the touchscreens in the newer models I have to pause, bring the camera controls forward and select the perspective I want. Takes like 5 time as long. We are going back in ergonomics and efficiency with a lot of modern computing.
Last edited by superswiss; Feb 16, 2025 at 04:28 PM.
Hey man! Right after I posted that I saw your replies from last year which echo what you just said so I really appreciate that and actually the more I think about it I tend to agree. But here’s another even more important question.
Did you tune your engine or do you think it has enough to power baseline?
Also, I was given a Renntech exhaust valve module, and I’m wondering if it in any way shape or form harms the car?
Hey man! Right after I posted that I saw your replies from last year which echo what you just said so I really appreciate that and actually the more I think about it I tend to agree. But here’s another even more important question.
Did you tune your engine or do you think it has enough to power baseline?
Also, I was given a Renntech exhaust valve module, and I’m wondering if it in any way shape or form harms the car?
No, I did not tune my engine. A normal tune on these engines will only increase low and mid-range power/torque, which is not really where you want it. This car already makes plenty of torque down low to the point where it struggles for traction. Last thing you need is more torque that lights up the rear tires. Just search around, everybody with a tune struggles to actually put it on the ground. What's the point of more power if you can't get it to the ground? To get more top end power, which is what you really want, you need larger turbo chargers. The stock turbo chargers run out of steam at the top. They are smaller to spin quickly and reduce lag. Larger turbos while making more power at the top end, cause turbo lag down low. So you get more power revving it out, but at the same time create lag down low. This car has more power already than you can really use on the public street, but if you want to tune then do it right and look at CarBahn. They do comprehensive tuning with new turbo chargers and a mapping that doesn't throw the balance of the car out the window. Most tunes IMHO opinion are just hacks.
Oh forgot to answer the second part. No, the exhaust valves module won't cause harm. It just fully opens the valves at all times. With the stock setup even if you press the exhaust button, the valves don't fully open until above a certain rpm.
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