I'm sure we all have been keeping a close eye on AMG and their news related to bringing the V8 back to the C63 platform. From the looks of it, the C63 won't have a coupe this year but rather the CLE63s will!

With that being said, the CLE63s may come with a hybrid style V8. These cars may be hitting US dealerships some time in 2026/2027.

Current W205 coupe edition 1 values are around $60k - $78k. Anybody worried these values will drop some when the new CLE63s hits the market?

Also, anybody think that the C63 sedan will get the hybrid V8 sometime in 2027 or 2028? I'm sure the current W206 C63 AMG values will completely plummet....

Let me know what you all think. Let's discuss!

They already have. Sedan's are cheap and the prefacelift Coupe are all under $100,000 AUD now compared to $120,000 AUD last year and the year before.

I'm not selling mine, there's a timeless look about them especially the Coupe. They will be a future classic

Here in the US market they have not dropped in relation to the new CLE63s coming out. I believe they will by the summer months.

I agree, the W205 has a classic look but the new CLE class coupes have nearly the same look just more muscular - in some way, better.

Just enjoy the car and stop worrying. There's always a new generation of a car. Did the C204 price crash when the C205 came out? The CLE is a different car. Not sure if a new CLE 63 will directly affect used car prices for the C63 Coupe. The C63 will remain interesting as the last RWD for those who don't want the weight and complexity of AWD. The V8 won't come to the C63 sedan. That's already been dismissed by AMG. The C63 SE is being discontinued along with the C43 and replaced with an all-new C53 with the CLE 53 powertrain. The CLE 63 will get mild hybrid. We already know that as well and the new flat plane V8 will make it to the other V8 models. I've also recently read in a German article that AMG is dropping the V8 PHEV powertrain in the FL S63. Sounds like it's also being replaced by the mild hybrid flat plane V8. The flat plane V8 is certainly interesting, but it will sound very different and be much quieter. We'll see when the first model with it is finally unveiled. This new engine is based on the V8 from the GT Black Series. Lots of speaker sound on that one pumped into the cabin and from outside it doesn't sound like much. Expect the same for the CLE 63. Loved driving the BS, but it certainly doesn't sound like much from the outside.

I get where you're coming from. It's a different car, but being that the C63 will not have a V8 model anymore and neither will it be a coupe makes the CLE63s the replacement in many ways. The 2023 W205 C63s with low miles is between $80k - $90k on the used market right now. Some Final Edition models are above $100k with 5,000 miles or less.

A brand new CLE63s will probably start around that price point and of course go up with options but still, worth noting that the W205 coupes have some big hits to take.

Yes, the engine is different on both cars along with many other components but it essentially is replacing the W205 C63s coupes segment for AMG.

At the very least, if you're in the market for a used W205 C63s coupe - wait another 6 months. You will be happy you did! That's what I'm trying to get at.

You think the CLE comes with AWD ( like M3/4) ?

What is engine code from V8 GT BS ?

The CLE already is AWD.

The BS engine is the M178 LS2. This upcoming V8 will probably be the M177 LS3. Wet sump vs dry sump.

(MB call this 4Matic)

Yes, I know. 4Matic+ to be exact. It'll have drift mode like the GT63 etc.

Okay. In my mind this AWD topic is a puestion
of max. acceleration vs rear wheel fun or a „help“ for the driver (my diplomatic mind ).

I m not in the game of the new technology.
What means -mild hybrid- in this kind ?

V8 + elec. engine ~ xxx hp + xx hp ?
drive V8 only / drive elec. only oder only both togehter ?

Let the values drop. Then they become more affordable. Edition ones have virtually no value beyond the first buyer. Remember, this is not an investment, it’s a standard off-the-shelf car from its day. Covid didn’t make cars special or depreciation nonexistent, it just made buyers a little bit more stupid… and all the poor (not actually meaning poor, but meaning could not really afford what they purchased and paid a ridiculous interest rate or ADM) people that made the wrong decisions will be selling their cars at huge losses.

I do like the W205 and current CLE coupe body styles. Having said this, neither are true pillarless, correct? To my understanding both platforms have fixed rear side glass. M8 coupe is also not true pillarless to my understanding.

The W222 coupe was the pinnacle of Mercedes pillarless design. It would be nice to see an offering in the market with true pillarless all-moveable-sideglass design.

Are you having a bad day today?
I wonder how anyone can say something like that?


1. High End German automotive engeniering from AMG (world wide at his best in this type of cars).

2. The price of new car was in US less and europe more expensive reverse to the OEM parts. But now when i compare the used car market of this countys it looks like similar what i have seen. I expect a similar price level for good and well-maintained vehicles.

3. Its allways helpful for comparing cars down to the last detail (OEM Supplier , all technology from everything of the car etc).
Then you will see the real differences.

I am shocked & outraged and now
I need to lie down on the sofa to recover.

I let AI handle that one if you don't know what MHEV is by now. It mainly powers auxiliary components that used to be belt driven by the engine. It recuperates some energy typically via a 48V system and uses it to power pumps and such to take strain off the engine and improve mpg. Also, does torque fill to smooth out shifts and assist the engine a bit during acceleration. In some models it also powers active rollbars and other suspension components.

Ok thanks for advice.

MHEV is in my mind still acceptable to my taste.If you could switch the all-wheel drive to rear-wheel drive, the new C63 would be saved.

I'm curious how many horsepower it will have.
I'm guessing 555.

The M178 LS2 has been shown on dynos to make over 800hp, which is about what the V8 E Performance models manage with the help of the electric motor. But the E Performance stuff adds 500 lbs to the vehicle's weight, so dropping those 500lbs means they need less power to produce the same power-to-weight ratio. It'll be an all-around win. Lighter vehicles with the same or better performance.

Is the suggestion in this thread that the future C63 or CLE63 will have a dry sump engine?

Nope. Nobody ever suggested that. Dry sump is to avoid oil starvation on the track and mounting the engine lower in case of the previous gen AMG GT. Even the current gen has a wet sump now. M178 = dry sump, M177 = wet sump. The new engine will be an M177 variant with flat plane crank. Will make it more rev happy and higher revving.

Is there any +/- release date for the CLE 63 ?

When the facelift comes out, which will be MY27 the earliest. They are not gonna release it as a pre-facelift this late in the game.

Is this similar to Porsche new T-Hybrid?

Friend of mine got a GTS4 year ago and he is living a nightmare with the battery trying not to be under minimum capacity or car won’t start 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Happend twice and car was towed to Porsche Center for emergency procedure…

Porsche's T-Hybrid is also a mild hybrid system, but it's based on a 400V architecture. It's also quite a bit more sophisticated, as it uses the turbo to generate electricity and eliminate the need for a waste gate. Basically the excess energy from the turbo is directly converted to electricity and either stored in the battery or directly powering the e-motor. It's also the first system that allows for the engine to always run at lambda = 1. Most turbo engine's run rich, blowing out extra fuel. Europe has passed new regulations, which no longer allow this. I'm curious how AMG is planning to achieve lambda = 1 at all times. I would love to see AMG implement a similar system that takes advantage of excess power from the turbo. The T-Hybrid system is the first system I can get behind when it comes to electrifying performance cars. If your friend bought a GTS 4 years ago, it doesn't have T-Hybrid. The system was only unveiled last year with the facelift of the 911 GTS.

Last year I meant, he got it sept 2025 and had this issue twice. Dealer actually sent him a note from porsche advising on this potential problem and also not leaving the car on temperatures above 30 C or battery could also fail 🤣

Sorry for topic intrusion btw

Sounds like they've got a few issues to sort out. As always, skip the first 1-2 years on a new car, unless you wanna be a beta tester.