How to price my white/porcelain CL63?
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How to price my white/porcelain CL63?
Hi All,
It has been quite some time since I last logged onto the forum. When I first joined this site it was because I had bought my dream car, a 2009 (titled late in 2009) white over designo porcelain CL63. I am now ready to sell because it has become a garage queen, languishing in that lair for >98% of the time (not my dd, plus I fly every week for work) and I feel like it's time to sell. The car has 14k miles, is in nearly flawless condition (the front right fendor has a couple paint chips due to road debris) inside and out, and is a stunning color combination for those that don't mind a near white interior. Any advice on how to price would be most welcome! I ran a search and found a 2010 with the same color combo and 16k miles with a $76k asking price. I was thinking of asking $70k with the custom wheels I had made, or putting the factory wheels back on and asking $67k and trying to sell the wheels separately. I've attached a few pictures. Any and all input would be appreciated!!
It has been quite some time since I last logged onto the forum. When I first joined this site it was because I had bought my dream car, a 2009 (titled late in 2009) white over designo porcelain CL63. I am now ready to sell because it has become a garage queen, languishing in that lair for >98% of the time (not my dd, plus I fly every week for work) and I feel like it's time to sell. The car has 14k miles, is in nearly flawless condition (the front right fendor has a couple paint chips due to road debris) inside and out, and is a stunning color combination for those that don't mind a near white interior. Any advice on how to price would be most welcome! I ran a search and found a 2010 with the same color combo and 16k miles with a $76k asking price. I was thinking of asking $70k with the custom wheels I had made, or putting the factory wheels back on and asking $67k and trying to sell the wheels separately. I've attached a few pictures. Any and all input would be appreciated!!
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You're in the right part of the country for that color combo, maybe you could take it up to Driving Emotions and have them quote you what they would pay so you get a view to wholesale, plus they usually have some similar cars for sale, so you could compare their retail.
Car looks great, but then, its the same exterior as mine, even the same wheels. Love that look.
Car looks great, but then, its the same exterior as mine, even the same wheels. Love that look.
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2009 CL63s are selling in the mid 50s even with lower miles. If I were you I think I would ask $59k. Very few buyers will be interested in those wheels so you would should give them the option of a lower price without them.
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I would think, even though the car has had extensive modifications. Most buyers are not into a modern car being modified. The money spent will be a loss. It will be a hard market that is for sure. There is only a short list for these cars and even a shorter list for one that has been tampered with. I would say lower 50's maybe even higher 40's. I would offer them the original wheels for sure. If the body cladding can be changed back, you would be able to get more for the car without the modifications. Most dealers will tell you that and usually wouldn't want to take the car on trade as they would end up having to wholesale the car, if they can find a buying. It might be appealing to a certain clientele but those are few and far between. Maybe put in a hot rod magazine, I think that would give you the best exposure.
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Am I missing something?? What aftermarket skirting? Looks factory to me!
With that said I agree with the mid to high 50's price point. Market for buyers on these guys is slim to say the least.
GLWS, beautiful car!! If I were in the market we'd have to try to put a deal together.
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Skirting is the lower section of the car. The AMG and sports package cars came with split type skirts, Base came with smooth type body skirts ( some call this under body cladding) Aftermarket extensions, body kits, exhaust changes that did not come from the factory, usually hurt the resale of the car not help. Upgrading the sound system also sometimes hurts the resale. Dealers do not like to work on cars that have been modified and can refuse to work on aftermarket add-on's. So, even though you might love the look, chances are you have narrowed your selling market to a very, very slim margin of buyers. This is a problem as if you have read up on the internet, upgrading your car to make it more personal devalues the car, instead of increasing the value and the money that was put into the car is almost always lost plus the depreciation of changing, painting and deleting or adding additional extras. There was a report on Yahoo a few months back on what customizing does to the value of your car. Changing a factory color to a custom color also affects value. The car is only original once. Once the, "Lilly is off the pedal" it is like a virgin that has been deflowered. The value is just hard to keep compared to a stock model. I work on the NADA team that values cars and when a modified or customized higher end car comes through auction, they usually sell for half of what a factory version sells for and sometimes they don't sell at all. So be careful. Unless you plan on keeping a customized car for a very long time, its wise to keep it as original as possible, esp. if you keep low miles on it. If you kept all the original parts and can put them back on the chances of getting your money out of the car increases and then you can sell the aftermarket parts on a sight and make that money back as well.
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^^Dude, I know what skirts are! I also know all about mods and the return on that investment being dismal. What I'm telling you is the car is factory aside from the wheels!
I think you're looking at JMKSAIL's car. That's NOT the one he's asking about.
I think you're looking at JMKSAIL's car. That's NOT the one he's asking about.
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I am not sure to whom I am speaking about, so many people coming all at once. The very first picture of DUKE04Matt. Is perfection with everything original. The change of the wheels are a deterrent to most. He could get a pretty penny for car in the very first picture. Low miles, all original, no modifications including wheels and tires. He could easily get high book. The car is a desirable color combination. 35k wholesale, 45k trade in, 52k private party, 56K dealer retail. So, that will give you a ball park figure of its value. If its totally stock. The miles really help.
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The guy selling the car is DUKE. The second guy just showed a pic of his car for reference. My point being, the guy inquiring has a stock car aside from wheels (which I disagree with hurting the value) and thus your long explanation as to what he could do to get a higher selling price was a waste of time.
I don't really consider wheels a mod that would in any way hurt value (unless you went with something super ghetto or "big") that would limit potential buyers or simply turn people off. Wheels can be swapped in 30 min and don't scare a potential buyer like a "performance" mod might. I've actually found that putting the right aftermarket wheel on a car sets it apart from the competition and hence brings a stronger $$. Most people nowadays are buying online. You need to grab someone's attention and the best way to do that is the right stance/wheel combo. Stock, cookie cutter cars vs. Stock, perfect wheel set = more attention IMO
I don't really consider wheels a mod that would in any way hurt value (unless you went with something super ghetto or "big") that would limit potential buyers or simply turn people off. Wheels can be swapped in 30 min and don't scare a potential buyer like a "performance" mod might. I've actually found that putting the right aftermarket wheel on a car sets it apart from the competition and hence brings a stronger $$. Most people nowadays are buying online. You need to grab someone's attention and the best way to do that is the right stance/wheel combo. Stock, cookie cutter cars vs. Stock, perfect wheel set = more attention IMO
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2011 cl63 (R.I.P.)
You won't touch 70s, or even 60s, for this car. Pre-refresh w216, mere months before the newer model comes out and the CL name is deprecated. As a previous poster mentioned there's a fairly short interest list for this car & if you are aiming for 70s, many many better options available.
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All I can say is, I wish you the very best in selling your car. I hope you get top dollar and it all works out for you. The pre-refresh W216 were not the best selling nor the most desirable. Sadly soon enough the 2011-2014 will be in the toilet as for pricing. I am seeing that only the 600 and the 65's are holding steady but even that will soon fall short as the new S Coupe is where most will be going to achieve the ultimate Coupe. We all lose every time they do a change. It is just a fact of life. By Oct., the car will be in the mid to high 40's and a different type of buyer will step in just to say they own a Mercedes. This is not to discount how amazing the car is just the real facts of life. Who would have ever thought the 2005-2006 W215 could be bought for 16-19K. I mean that should tell you something.
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hey guys,
while i agree w/ many of the recent comments, the OP thread is from 6 months ago, so prices are obviously different now.
plus to be fair, although this carmax link is for 2011 - it's not fair to compare CL63 with CL550 - no matter how nice the 550 interior is.
btw, i've tried to consider the CLs, but the back seats are actually even smaller than my CLK55 cab(W209), and are just not FUNCTIONAL. recently i started seeing CL people consider S63s (2015s) as it drives great/smaller than prior S63s, and the back seats are usable.
PL
while i agree w/ many of the recent comments, the OP thread is from 6 months ago, so prices are obviously different now.
plus to be fair, although this carmax link is for 2011 - it's not fair to compare CL63 with CL550 - no matter how nice the 550 interior is.
btw, i've tried to consider the CLs, but the back seats are actually even smaller than my CLK55 cab(W209), and are just not FUNCTIONAL. recently i started seeing CL people consider S63s (2015s) as it drives great/smaller than prior S63s, and the back seats are usable.
PL
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I agree but the 10 vs 11 will be a good comparison in price
hey guys,
while i agree w/ many of the recent comments, the OP thread is from 6 months ago, so prices are obviously different now.
plus to be fair, although this carmax link is for 2011 - it's not fair to compare CL63 with CL550 - no matter how nice the 550 interior is.
btw, i've tried to consider the CLs, but the back seats are actually even smaller than my CLK55 cab(W209), and are just not FUNCTIONAL. recently i started seeing CL people consider S63s (2015s) as it drives great/smaller than prior S63s, and the back seats are usable.
PL
while i agree w/ many of the recent comments, the OP thread is from 6 months ago, so prices are obviously different now.
plus to be fair, although this carmax link is for 2011 - it's not fair to compare CL63 with CL550 - no matter how nice the 550 interior is.
btw, i've tried to consider the CLs, but the back seats are actually even smaller than my CLK55 cab(W209), and are just not FUNCTIONAL. recently i started seeing CL people consider S63s (2015s) as it drives great/smaller than prior S63s, and the back seats are usable.
PL
I agree with you that the 550 isn't the same as the 63 but to be totally honest a base 63 is only a dressed more powerful 550. The interior is still MB Tex. At least with the Designo you get a full leather interior. That being said the 7-10 aren't as popular with most CL lovers. I would say the link I showed you is worth more than a year older 63, esp. since the refresh. As for rear seat room, I don't think anyone that drives a car of this class, cares about rear seat room, as it is considered," A personal luxury car," not a people mover. I personally don't allow anyone in my back seat of any of my 2 dr. cars. That is what my 4dr. cars are for. As far as comparing any other Mercedes to a CL is like comparing a Cadillac to Chevrolet, it's just not a comparison that can be made, no matter what size engine your car has. No disrespect to your comments. This site is mostly about opinions and not facts but the information I am talking more based on fact than opinion.
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The model range and motors were substantially updated in 2011. The 2011 CL550 is actually faster than the 2009/2010 CL63. I know which I would prefer.