Renntech CL 55 Stage 6
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Renntech CL 55 Stage 6
Hello guys,
Just one pic (teaser) of Stage 6 RennTECH.
Just one pic (teaser) of Stage 6 RennTECH.
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Originally Posted by DFW01E55
The CF is pretty, but like Bux, I'd rather hear about the numbers.
Dont see manycars running around with those these days
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Originally Posted by adam@kronen
0 - 60 mph : 4 secs
1/4 time : 11.5 secs
Trap speed: 125 mph
1/4 time : 11.5 secs
Trap speed: 125 mph
Love that car. That is how a 5.5L amg V8k car should be modded!!!
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They have not made to many Stage 6 cars so is this the car from the Super Tuner Shootout? Is it Horizon Blue?
Love that car. That is how a 5.5L amg V8k car should be modded!!!
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Love that car. That is how a 5.5L amg V8k car should be modded!!!
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Right now we have three Stage 6 cars.
CLS 55 Stage 6 (Miami)
CL 55 Stage 6 (Miami)
SL 55 Stage 6 (Scottsdale)
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Originally Posted by adam@kronen
Yes it is. It was 2 years ago when you last saw it. A lot has changed since then. A member of the forum (W211) might replace his K4 for a full RT Stage 6
Right now we have three Stage 6 cars.
CLS 55 Stage 6 (Miami)
CL 55 Stage 6 (Miami)
SL 55 Stage 6 (Scottsdale)
Right now we have three Stage 6 cars.
CLS 55 Stage 6 (Miami)
CL 55 Stage 6 (Miami)
SL 55 Stage 6 (Scottsdale)
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WOW can't wait to hear more. the renntech airbox looks very different than the normal "V8 Kompressor Intake". is this a new replacement version, a new part, or just part of the stage 6 conversion? looks incredible.
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Can you post pics of the CLS 55 Stage 6?
From what i heard, Stage 6 is pushing high 600. Will be confirmed later.
WOW can't wait to hear more. the renntech airbox looks very different than the normal "V8 Kompressor Intake". is this a new replacement version, a new part, or just part of the stage 6 conversion? looks incredible.
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Originally Posted by adam@kronen
The Stage 6 includes stage 5 + 2 intercoolers, intake manifold, air intake, and the air filter housing.
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Yes, it is SLR style intercoolers. Hence, the factory airbox cannot be used in this case.
We sell and install performance and aerodynamics parts for MB and we also do Mercedes maintanence. (oil change, etc)
Pictures of the SL 55 Stage 6 will be available on Monday pm. Hopefully.
do you guys just sell/install parts/conversions or do you do mercedes maintenance too
Pictures of the SL 55 Stage 6 will be available on Monday pm. Hopefully.
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Stage 6 (the works) - $35995
Headers, larger crankshaft pulley, SLR styled intercooler system, air intake, air filter housing, ECU software upgrade, throttle body.
Again, i am sorry guys i couldnt get more pictures as fast as i would like. Please be patient.
Headers, larger crankshaft pulley, SLR styled intercooler system, air intake, air filter housing, ECU software upgrade, throttle body.
Again, i am sorry guys i couldnt get more pictures as fast as i would like. Please be patient.
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Originally Posted by JamE55
How much rwhp/crank is this Stage 6 putting out?
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
............good question, but don't expect to see an answer. Too much tuner hot air. You won't see a time slip and you won't see a dynograph.
As I study these graphs while contemplating engine upgrades for my CLS55, the biggest impact comes from stage 1 (ECU & Pulley, +51 hp, +38 torque) and then the stage 6 addition of the larger intercoolers (+51 hp, +8 torque). Airbox alone +15 hp, +14 torque; headers alone +24hp, +30 torque; airbox + headers +30 hp, +34 torque; larger throttle body +7 hp, +14 torque. I just derived these numbers from the graphs and I cannot attest to their accuracy in a real life vehicle, but it still shows the relative gains from each modification.
Cost of the stage 6 seems to be about double that of Kleemann stage 4. Kleemann doesn't offer the larger intercoolers but does change out the crankshaft, which Renntech seems to leave alone.
Despite the prodigious power of the supercharged 55k engine in the stock cars, there is a lot of untapped reserve if you want to spend the cash. This is one reason I went for a CLS55 rather than wait for a CLS63, even though I may or may not ever do any engine upgrades.
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Originally Posted by ekovalsky
Here are the Dyno graphs for the S/C 55k from the Renntech website. I cannot say how realistic the numbers are, but the gains for some tuning parts are relatively modest (throttle body and airbox for instance). The new intercoolers seem to give a huge boost in HP. Numbers all reflect wheel measurements; multiply by 1.23 to give the crank numbers.
As I study these graphs while contemplating engine upgrades for my CLS55, the biggest impact comes from stage 1 (ECU & Pulley, +51 hp, +38 torque) and then the stage 6 addition of the larger intercoolers (+51 hp, +8 torque). Airbox alone +15 hp, +14 torque; headers alone +24hp, +30 torque; airbox + headers +30 hp, +34 torque; larger throttle body +7 hp, +14 torque. I just derived these numbers from the graphs and I cannot attest to their accuracy in a real life vehicle, but it still shows the relative gains from each modification.
Cost of the stage 6 seems to be about double that of Kleemann stage 4. Kleemann doesn't offer the larger intercoolers but does change out the crankshaft, which Renntech seems to leave alone.
Despite the prodigious power of the supercharged 55k engine in the stock cars, there is a lot of untapped reserve if you want to spend the cash. This is one reason I went for a CLS55 rather than wait for a CLS63, even though I may or may not ever do any engine upgrades.
As I study these graphs while contemplating engine upgrades for my CLS55, the biggest impact comes from stage 1 (ECU & Pulley, +51 hp, +38 torque) and then the stage 6 addition of the larger intercoolers (+51 hp, +8 torque). Airbox alone +15 hp, +14 torque; headers alone +24hp, +30 torque; airbox + headers +30 hp, +34 torque; larger throttle body +7 hp, +14 torque. I just derived these numbers from the graphs and I cannot attest to their accuracy in a real life vehicle, but it still shows the relative gains from each modification.
Cost of the stage 6 seems to be about double that of Kleemann stage 4. Kleemann doesn't offer the larger intercoolers but does change out the crankshaft, which Renntech seems to leave alone.
Despite the prodigious power of the supercharged 55k engine in the stock cars, there is a lot of untapped reserve if you want to spend the cash. This is one reason I went for a CLS55 rather than wait for a CLS63, even though I may or may not ever do any engine upgrades.
...........You are making my point. Those graphs CANNOT be for the car that traps at 125mph as posted earlier. if you are to accept what was posted earlier that the car traps at 125mp......if you use a simple HP calculator then the owner of the car who's graph you've posted deserves a refund. The curb weight for a CL55 is 4300lbs, if you add a modest 50Lbs for the mods and 150lbs for the driver, that brings the weight to 4500. If you calculate HP using the trap speed method, then the CL55 with a trap speed of 125mph should be malking 686HP and 823Lbft of torque to THE REAR WHEELS!!!
...........if you use the 1/4 mile time method then you get 585HP and 702Lbft of torque AT THE REAR WHEEL!!
...........first of all, you can see how to spot nonsense........the trap speed and the 1/4 mile methods do not even match.
.................Here is a web page containing how to do the calculations. Try them yourself http://www.cprparts.com/HPcalculator.html
Ted
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
............good question, but don't expect to see an answer. Too much tuner hot air. You won't see a time slip and you won't see a dynograph.
Ted
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This car is not hot air...in reality its pumping a whole not more cold air than any other tuners car being that no one else has desiged a intercooler box like that. The junk seen in these AMG cars fromt he factory is just not up to the job and that SLR style box flows far better than stock and has less pressure drop due to resistance when flowing air through the cooler.
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
...........You are making my point. Those graphs CANNOT be for the car that traps at 125mph as posted earlier. if you are to accept what was posted earlier that the car traps at 125mp......if you use a simple HP calculator then the owner of the car who's graph you've posted deserves a refund. The curb weight for a CL55 is 4300lbs, if you add a modest 50Lbs for the mods and 150lbs for the driver, that brings the weight to 4500. If you calculate HP using the trap speed method, then the CL55 with a trap speed of 125mph should be malking 686HP and 823Lbft of torque to THE REAR WHEELS!!!
...........if you use the 1/4 mile time method then you get 585HP and 702Lbft of torque AT THE REAR WHEEL!!
...........first of all, you can see how to spot nonsense........the trap speed and the 1/4 mile methods do not even match.
.................Here is a web page containing how to do the calculations. Try them yourself http://www.cprparts.com/HPcalculator.html
Ted
...........if you use the 1/4 mile time method then you get 585HP and 702Lbft of torque AT THE REAR WHEEL!!
...........first of all, you can see how to spot nonsense........the trap speed and the 1/4 mile methods do not even match.
.................Here is a web page containing how to do the calculations. Try them yourself http://www.cprparts.com/HPcalculator.html
Ted
The figure given by Adam might have been a guess. But the CL55, CLS55, and SL55 with these upgrades are extremely quick and offer the best cooling system seen for the 55k vehicles.
As someone who has had many a track day destroyed (road racing) because the factory intercooler system on these Kompressor cars (v6 and v8) just cant keep up with even a lightly modified car I can really appreciate the work done on those SLR style coolers. Pumps and upgraded additional coolers are nice but the fact still remains that the factory cooler in the V of the engine is just not all that great. Having said that, the cooler made by RENNtech is almost like art.
Most people wont need a cooler like that but for the customers who do demand a car that has very controlled intake temps it is really the only option.
