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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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thank you sir juice no need to respond, lets have vic lock this baby up
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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Juice! what makes you & all these CORRECTED SLIPS a joke are ---- From the umpteen Mercedes, Corvette, Viper, Porsche, Ferarri, Audi, Mustang, ect..Sites I have been to or frequented over the YEARS, NONE of them cling so dearly to a formula for FALSE bragging rights as you and your cronies do here.

It's Never once have I seen ANYONE list it on there sig, as if you really ran that time & trap!

It makes total sense w/your explanation to compare it to the East Coast tracks, but this should be kept for your own private personal records, not bragging rights. To display it, & CLAIM it, as you & others copying you here do is out & out LAME, there are far to many variables to align for those calculations to come to fruition, & you know it! But you are so desperate to show your 63 is in the same league as the 55k's (especially E55k) You found this little loophole & it's getting really OLD

Drop it guy, the 63 doesn't have forced induction, none of us in the know expect it to perform as good or better than the Kompressor or Bi-Turbo Models ok..Maybe EVEN against the CLS55 but I believe that is due to Mercedes De-tuning that model, as they previously tried to do to the E55k's

& for you to start bragging on about your incredible 60' perf is another fallacy, try using the stock tires or brand your car came with & see if you can replicate your sub 1.70 60' The E55k's you keep comparing your 63 to had STOCK CONTI's ON! Not high perf Michelin Cups etc..

Lastly for you to claim victory over other cars that run a higher trap and lower ET than you because you passed the finish line 1st? Makes ZERO sense at all, you've plum lost it!

Oh well continue in Dreamland...
My uncorrected times are in my sig. The E55 I beat had BFG which is a softer better drag tire than a Pilot Sport. The pilot Sport is a street tire not a drag radial. My 60 ft time uncorrected is one of the best ever achieved on either stock or drag tires period (in a benz). You are only correct about one thing. A C6 is a great matchup for the 63 as the parameters are equal race goes to better driver. Raise your flag, do what you will . I race to be the FIRST accross the line. In most cases that means I have a higher trap and lower ET. It is not a claim to victory it is printed directly on my timeslip. I offered to buy you a set of drag rads for your rears, you continue to beat me up over my attendance of track events yet excuse after excuse as to why you cannot participate? Your the one living in a fantasy world . Go to a track it is where the vette belongs. Run a better time than me and I will tell the world you are faster. Your car would lose to a 63 just like you lost to the 55. Most of the membership here that drag races owns cars that have forced induction as you point out. Most of the fastest runs were at a negative DA, the 55 members likely never did the corrections simply because it really is a minute factor. While still very important , DA effects turboed and sc cars far less. My corrected time is what my car is capable of, this is why I was not impressed with my run in SAC although smashing my previous fastest time. 12.6 while looking good to many 63 owners is actually slower than my 13.0 run at LACR. Hopefully you are intelligent enough to know why.
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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LOL, oops too late .. Comon SEAN!!! You stirring it back up was uncool.
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
LOL, oops too late .. Comon SEAN!!! You stirring it back up was uncool.
LOL...You guys type too fast I didn't see you cleared the air so to speak I'll pm you on the silly tire sponsorship statement
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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false bragging rights LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL, Im the only guy running a CLS 63 so guess what? IM THE FASTEST CLS 63 IN THE NATION

www.dragtimes.com

none of my "corrected" times are posted
corrected times are reference only , listed only here for the nationwide speed racer 63 challenge
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL, Im the only guy running a CLS 63 so guess what? IM THE FASTEST CLS 63 IN THE NATION
Yup
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 02:30 AM
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[QUOTE=Thericker;2260392]Juice! what makes you & all these CORRECTED SLIPS a joke are ---- From the umpteen Mercedes, Corvette, Viper, Porsche, Ferarri, Audi, Mustang, ect..Sites I have been to or frequented over the YEARS, NONE of them cling so dearly to a formula for FALSE bragging rights as you and your cronies do here.

It's Never once have I seen ANYONE list it on there sig, as if you really ran that time & trap!

It makes total sense w/your explanation to compare it to the East Coast tracks, but this should be kept for your own private personal records, not bragging rights. To display it, & CLAIM it, as you & others copying you here do is out & out LAME, there are far to many variables to align for those calculations to come to fruition, & you know it! But you are so desperate to show your 63 is in the same league as the 55k's (especially E55k) You found this little loophole & it's getting really OLD

Drop it guy, the 63 doesn't have forced induction, none of us in the know expect it to perform as good or better than the Kompressor or Bi-Turbo

RICKER,
Did you just compare the 63 with a bi-turbo?
And just so you know, I have 20x11 conti 3s and I still beat juices car. (sorry juice) I have no problem racing any stock 55 out there on the track or the freeway but I have yet to see one step up to the plate, But when it happens It will be on video. You know that neither car will get anhilated with the right driver behind the wheel and the fact that 55 owners arent even the one bashing the 63 lately as its been gaining more and more credability as more knowledge is gained thru actually taming one.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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Jay, I understand your no amateur and I mean no disrespect towards you or your car, But bieng that this is the internet and there is alot of douchbags here on the forum.....
Damn right.

Look in mirror.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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RICKER,
Did you just compare the 63 with a bi-turbo?
And just so you know, I have 20x11 conti 3s and I still beat juices car. (sorry juice) I have no problem racing any stock 55 out there on the track or the freeway but I have yet to see one step up to the plate, But when it happens It will be on video. You know that neither car will get anhilated with the right driver behind the wheel and the fact that 55 owners arent even the one bashing the 63 lately as its been gaining more and more credability as more knowledge is gained thru actually taming one.[/QUOTE]





I know Sam , thats why it is imperative we get you 18" and up to Sacramento.

Chicago , what Sam said to Jay was a result of a mis-understanding. Sam does not spend much time posting nor reading LOL, so he lashed out and feels badly for it. I would call myself the word and add bag but I cannot spell it.

Now as far as Seans(AKA thericker) posts they are a futile attempt to continue to create an adverse environ here on MBWORLD. I will not participate further as my position is clear and unwavering.

Have a blessed day
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
Chicago , what Sam said to Jay was a result of a mis-understanding. Sam does not spend much time posting nor reading LOL, so he lashed out and feels badly for it. I would call myself the word and add bag but I cannot spell it........
Then I retract most of my previous statement.


Props for the enthusiasm, btw.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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..........the next summer Olympics will be in China. The IOC has annouced that from now on, the world record in the 100 meter dash will be decided by a panel of specially trained mathmaticians. They will calculate temp, altitude, wind resistance, station of the moon and the zodiac signs of each athlete and each race across several continents. They have decided not to simply award the record to the athlete with the fastest time. Further, all previous world records will be stripped from the athletes with the fastest times and awarded to atheletes with slower times. The IOC made this decision after reading this thread and discovering how logical it is.

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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
..........the next summer Olympics will be in China. The IOC has annouced that from now on, the world record in the 100 meter dash will be decided by a panel of specially trained mathmaticians. They will calculate temp, altitude, wind resistance, station of the moon and the zodiac signs of each athlete and each race across several continents. They have decided not to simply award the record to the athlete with the fastest time. Further, all previous world records will be stripped from the athletes with the fastest times and awarded to atheletes with slower times. The IOC made this decision after reading this thread and discovering how logical it is.

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Actually Ted as we have previously discussed a million times. Runners times are corrected. What effects a runner the most is a tail or head wind. But it has been shown that DA also effects runners. When establishing a new world record all the factors are measured. They have stripped medals prior and this will continue. Some athletes get the ever hated asterik.

There are always measurements done at the olympics.

1. There are urine tests
2. There are blood tests
3. There are weather tests
4. There are tests of lighting and sound devices
5. There are tests of timing mechanism's
6. There are even tests of the way colors effect atp.

When all the runners are on the same track it is still noted in order to compare the 2008 runners with the runners in Mexico in 1968.

Your post only further demonstrates the importance of doing the corrections.

Climatic conditions are a crucial factor for good performances in the 100 m. Air resistance is the primary climatic factor in sprint performances. A strong head wind is very detrimental to performance, while a tail wind can improve performances significantly. For this reason, a maximum tail wind of 2.0 m/s is allowed for a 100 m performance to be considered wind legal and to be eligible for records. Furthermore, sprint athletes perform better at high altitudes because of the thinner air, which provides less air resistance. While there are no limitations on altitude, performances made at altitudes greater than 1000 m above sea level are marked with an "A".[1]

For example, in April of 1996 Obadele Thompson of Barbados ran the fastest 100 m race ever.[citation needed] He was clocked at 9.69 s. However, it was achieved with a tail wind in excess of 5 m/s, well over the IAAF legal limit of 2.0 m/s, and the mark was not officially

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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
Actually Ted as we have previously discussed a million times. Runners times are corrected.

There are always measurements done at the olympics.

1. There are urine tests
2. There are blood tests
3. There are weather tests
4. There are tests of lighting and sound devices
5. There are tests of timing mechanism's
6. There are even tests of the way colors effect atp.

When all the runners are on the same track it is still noted in order to compare the 2008 runners with the runners in Mexico in 1968.

Your post only further demonstrates the importance of doing the corrections.
..........of course I was not expecting you to agree with me, but you totally missed my point. The current world record in the 100meter dash is held by American Justin Gatlin. He ran a time of 9.76secs in a race held in Qatar. My question to you is ths; Is this a corrected time or a non corrected time?
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
..........of course I was not expecting you to agree with me, but you totally missed my point. The current world record in the 100meter dash is held by American Justin Gatlin. He ran a time of 9.76secs in a race held in Qatar. My question to you is ths; Is this a corrected time or a non corrected time?
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Climatic conditions are a crucial factor for good performances in the 100 m. Air resistance is the primary climatic factor in sprint performances. A strong head wind is very detrimental to performance, while a tail wind can improve performances significantly. For this reason, a maximum tail wind of 2.0 m/s is allowed for a 100 m performance to be considered wind legal and to be eligible for records. Furthermore, sprint athletes perform better at high altitudes because of the thinner air, which provides less air resistance. While there are no limitations on altitude, performances made at altitudes greater than 1000 m above sea level are marked with an "A".[1]

For example, in April of 1996 Obadele Thompson of Barbados ran the fastest 100 m race ever.[citation needed] He was clocked at 9.69 s. However, it was achieved with a tail wind in excess of 5 m/s, well over the IAAF legal limit of 2.0 m/s, and the mark was not officially

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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
..........of course I was not expecting you to agree with me, but you totally missed my point. The current world record in the 100meter dash is held by American Justin Gatlin. He ran a time of 9.76secs in a race held in Qatar. My question to you is ths; Is this a corrected time or a non corrected time?
Ted

WOW, was he on DRUGS?
Although Justin Gatlin's record has been ratified, it is pending disqualification by the IAAF for doping charges brought against him. He is currently serving an 8 year ban. The decision whether to disqualify the record he currently shares with Asafa Powell will be made early in 2007.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
Climatic conditions are a crucial factor for good performances in the 100 m. Air resistance is the primary climatic factor in sprint performances. A strong head wind is very detrimental to performance, while a tail wind can improve performances significantly. For this reason, a maximum tail wind of 2.0 m/s is allowed for a 100 m performance to be considered wind legal and to be eligible for records. Furthermore, sprint athletes perform better at high altitudes because of the thinner air, which provides less air resistance. While there are no limitations on altitude, performances made at altitudes greater than 1000 m above sea level are marked with an "A".[1]

For example, in April of 1996 Obadele Thompson of Barbados ran the fastest 100 m race ever.[citation needed] He was clocked at 9.69 s. However, it was achieved with a tail wind in excess of 5 m/s, well over the IAAF legal limit of 2.0 m/s, and the mark was not officially
.........The influnce of climatic conditions are well known. This explains why long distance runners practice in high altitude areas and then run their races in low altitude areas. This explains why runners from from North Easter africa dominate the long distance races. The point is that an official race record is not one that is calculated, but one that is actually directly measured. Everyone is aware of influence of climatic conditions, but you are the only one that publishes your calculated times.

..........I'll try again. Is justin Gatlin's 9.76secs in the 100meter dash corrected time or uncorrected time?

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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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Lets go back to cars.

Looks like there are more notes attached to runners times than even I imagined.

All pro drivers correct there times, however as you likely know and I just learned. The mechanic's, pit crew etc actually adjust the cars to make the weather and altitude NULL. So no need for a time correction they simply adjust the electronics in the dragster. AMAZING.

Well fom me and others running N/A motors w/o electronics we have to put the motor under SAE correction to strive toward achieving the fastest 1/4 mile run. I understand now why you question it as perhaps I should not post corrected times, they are simply a reference point for other drivers of similar cars accross the country. It was an effort to aleviate the gross mis-interpretation going on in this forum over 1/4 mile times. An E63@ LACR runs 13.6@106 an E63 at MIR runs a 12.5@114, to me and to others I assume several things

1. The driver of the car at LACR sucks
2. The car at LACR is broken
3. The car at MIR is pro driven
4. The car at MIR is super strong

All completely false
All terribly inaccurate

This was going on in this forum since 2001.

An accurate data set will help everyone, the Turbos and SC cars are also effected and should make notes on dragtimes of the DA for others to see. I have corrected the top E55 times using the SAE formula for SC cars(stock) and Enzom's run is actually the fastest to me for the conditions he ran in. You can and others can go by 1. 2. 3. but I like to know exactly what my competition runs w/o correcting you will be at a disadvantage. So for me it is as important as a data logger is to you, with out one you are just guessing.
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
.........The influnce of climatic conditions are well known. This explains why long distance runners practice in high altitude areas and then run their races in low altitude areas. This explains why runners from from North Easter africa dominate the long distance races. The point is that an official race record is not one that is calculated, but one that is actually directly measured. Everyone is aware of influence of climatic conditions, but you are the only one that publishes your calculated times.

..........I'll try again. Is justin Gatlin's 9.76secs in the 100meter dash corrected time or uncorrected time?


Ted
The time includes several foot notes that you failed to post.
1. The time is disputed due to doping charges
2. It is a wind corrected time plus 1.7 m/s


Understandably, people generally think that, if you run a time faster than anybody else, you become the "world record holder", but in the realm of athletics, no world record is a record unless the IAAF says so.Mipchunk 01:41, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

The times are run recorded and then subject to correction based on numerous
factors. So the 100m is a bad example for you to post if you are trying to dis-credit my corrected times. It simply validated what I am doing and what I will continue to do. I have changed my signature in an effort to dispel and confusion the corrected time has caused.

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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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I have changed my signature in an effort to dispel and confusion the corrected time has caused.
A suggestion, if I may. Why not forget all the corrections and just list your slip, along w/ the DA? The DA provides all of the correction needed for those "in the know."

I plan on doing this myself FWIW.
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A suggestion, if I may. Why not forget all the corrections and just list your slip, along w/ the DA? The DA provides all of the correction needed for those "in the know."

I plan on doing this myself FWIW.
1 of the most literate posts yet!

Originally Posted by juicee63
I understand now why you question it as perhaps I should not post corrected times, they are simply a reference point for other drivers of similar cars accross the country.
This was all I was trying to get across to you Juice aka Josh!

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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Juice I have the "answer" to settle all of this for your self, you have to run your car at MIR. There is another buddy/member that is shipping his car in from New Mexico later in the season for a track rental when it gets cooler, then you can see what your car can "really" run. You'll be that the track that a lot of records are set at including the fastest stock ZO6 in the country. Could be fun, and it will be far enough in advance you can plan for it now. Tell me what you think. Maybe this can be an MBWorld meet for everyone? Thoughts?
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Juice I have the "answer" to settle all of this for your self, you have to run your car at MIR. There is another buddy/member that is shipping his car in from New Mexico later in the season for a track rental when it gets cooler, then you can see what your car can "really" run. You'll be that the track that a lot of records are set at including the fastest stock ZO6 in the country. Could be fun, and it will be far enough in advance you can plan for it now. Tell me what you think. Maybe this can be an MBWorld meet for everyone? Thoughts?
Now there's an end all to this entire thing! Do it! Do it! If anybody from the West Coast is tenacious enough for that haul it's YOU Josh! Fukin' rolls to Sac town under your belt, this will settle it forever.

Just load your trunk w/Redbull & roll it

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Damn right.

Look in mirror.
WTF.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by E55JAY
Juice I have the "answer" to settle all of this for your self, you have to run your car at MIR. There is another buddy/member that is shipping his car in from New Mexico later in the season for a track rental when it gets cooler, then you can see what your car can "really" run. You'll be that the track that a lot of records are set at including the fastest stock ZO6 in the country. Could be fun, and it will be far enough in advance you can plan for it now. Tell me what you think. Maybe this can be an MBWorld meet for everyone? Thoughts?

That would be great. What would even be more entertaining is having an MBWORLD track day at LACR!! LOL..

I thought this thread was LOCKED, dead and over.

I changed my sig that should be good enough for yous guys.
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Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


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Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


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10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


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