03 Cl600 Vs. 03 Cl55- Which Is Faster?
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03 Cl600 Vs. 03 Cl55- Which Is Faster?
the 02 cl55's 390tq aint cuttin it. planning on purchasing one of the 2 shortly. stock for stock which is faster in a straight line? hp is the same, looks like the 600 has 590tq compared to the 55's 515tq, but the 600 is heavier. want the most hp/tq for my $, btw both would be modded with a ecu upgrade(cl600) & pulleys/ecu(cl55).
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the 02 cl55's 390tq aint cuttin it. planning on purchasing one of the 2 shortly. stock for stock which is faster in a straight line? hp is the same, looks like the 600 has 590tq compared to the 55's 515tq, but the 600 is heavier. want the most hp/tq for my $, btw both would be modded with a ecu upgrade(cl600) & pulleys/ecu(cl55).
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My lightly modded '03 55 traps 115, Jay's modded '05 600 traps mid 120's.
That's pretty easy, right?
The cost to approach those speeds starts at 2k for either car.
I think that spending more than 5k triggers the diminishing returns process.
That's pretty easy, right?
The cost to approach those speeds starts at 2k for either car.
I think that spending more than 5k triggers the diminishing returns process.
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the 02 cl55's 390tq aint cuttin it. planning on purchasing one of the 2 shortly. stock for stock which is faster in a straight line? hp is the same, looks like the 600 has 590tq compared to the 55's 515tq, but the 600 is heavier. want the most hp/tq for my $, btw both would be modded with a ecu upgrade(cl600) & pulleys/ecu(cl55).
If straight line is the main thing, CL600. The biggest benefit of the CL600 over the CL55, IMO, isn't necessarily what they do side by side at the drag strip but the effect on the street. The CL55 is "under geared", so the huge torque reserves of the CL600 enable it to pull away from same gear/same starting speed. The higher RPM limit of the CL55 basically can't be used to an advantage. I run shorter tires, but there just isn't any way to get up to what would be an effective ~3.06 ring and pinion where the CL55 needs to be.
Why not supercharge your current CL55? You've got the better 2.82 ring and pinion.
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its about what $12k to supercharge this car?(kleeman) thought about nitrous, but i heard its not that safe on these cars. i could get into a nice
cl55 for about $40k w/decent miles. a cl600 with amg sport, silver/charcoal is a tough find especially @$40k
cl55 for about $40k w/decent miles. a cl600 with amg sport, silver/charcoal is a tough find especially @$40k
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I own an 03 CL55 and have extensively driven an 05 CL600
and can hands down say that even though I love my own car, the 600 is smoother faster and more powerful despite the numbers. the powerband is very well distributed vs the AMG which is somewhat jerky as with the supercharger engage and so forth. the turbos in the V12 spool quickly and hammer you but don't jerk like the supercharger clutch. Hands down 600 over 55 and I own it. Anybody who tells you different is selling them.
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hey guys in the same boat right now the only thing that is drawing me to the 55 over the 600 are the AMG brakes which to say the lest are huge. i currently have the same brakes as on the 600 on my clk and just dont think they are big enough for the weight and speed of the 600. someone please tell me i am wrong or that i missed it somewhere and the 600 really do have the large 8 piston amg brakes.
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hey guys in the same boat right now the only thing that is drawing me to the 55 over the 600 are the AMG brakes which to say the lest are huge. i currently have the same brakes as on the 600 on my clk and just dont think they are big enough for the weight and speed of the 600. someone please tell me i am wrong or that i missed it somewhere and the 600 really do have the large 8 piston amg brakes.
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and can hands down say that even though I love my own car, the 600 is smoother faster and more powerful despite the numbers. the powerband is very well distributed vs the AMG which is somewhat jerky as with the supercharger engage and so forth. the turbos in the V12 spool quickly and hammer you but don't jerk like the supercharger clutch. Hands down 600 over 55 and I own it. Anybody who tells you different is selling them.
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The super charger is LOAD and or rpm engaged. WOT=load= engaged.
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the 02 cl55's 390tq aint cuttin it. planning on purchasing one of the 2 shortly. stock for stock which is faster in a straight line? hp is the same, looks like the 600 has 590tq compared to the 55's 515tq, but the 600 is heavier. want the most hp/tq for my $, btw both would be modded with a ecu upgrade(cl600) & pulleys/ecu(cl55).
IMO, MB rated the 03 600's at 493hp so as to not eclipse the then brand new supercharged AMG 55s.
Ben Treynor put his then brand new S600 on the dyno and made 481rwhp
That is DEFINITELY much more than 493hp crankshaft more in the mid to upper 500s. Obviously there is no comparison torque wise. I understand that the chip upgrade quickens throttle response making the car not only much more powerful but also much more fun to drive. Treynor found 525rwhp on his S600 after the chip.
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2003 CL55
What do you think of your pulley mod? Would you recommend that as a first improvement or does something else give a better bang for the buck?
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Good to know. What I'd read about it, seemed to suggest it was only from that point. I'd assumed it was to maybe reduce the chance of wheelspin.
What do you think of your pulley mod? Would you recommend that as a first improvement or does something else give a better bang for the buck?
What do you think of your pulley mod? Would you recommend that as a first improvement or does something else give a better bang for the buck?
Cooling mods don't add power but they are basically a must. Your car won't use the power it has if it's running to hot. Cooling mods are cheap in the grand scheme of things anyway.
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Not a perfect comparison, but I've owned 2 55 engine cars (E55 and S55) and a CL600. I just never fell in love with my 600.
It just seemed sluggish and heavy around town unless you really pushed it. Even then the turbos made it so quiet that I started missing the sound of a blown V8. It was stock btw so I can't speak for a modded car. I even took the CL600 to Renntech for a dyno and lookover to make sure something wasn't wrong!
The 55 engine sounded better and begged to be flogged. I would test drive both cars and go with your preference. Just my 2 cents!
It just seemed sluggish and heavy around town unless you really pushed it. Even then the turbos made it so quiet that I started missing the sound of a blown V8. It was stock btw so I can't speak for a modded car. I even took the CL600 to Renntech for a dyno and lookover to make sure something wasn't wrong!
The 55 engine sounded better and begged to be flogged. I would test drive both cars and go with your preference. Just my 2 cents!
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The 55 engine sounded better and begged to be flogged. I would test drive both cars and go with your preference. Just my 2 cents!
