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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 12:59 AM
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The bimmer X6 will it seems be the first bimmer with that new 4.4 liter twin-turbo V-8 bimmer has been saying they will release, now they are by this summer. After that they will obviously put it in their 5 series, 6 series, 7 series, and X5 cars. The engine has 400 HP and 450 lb/ft of torque. Vishnu will definitely come out with a quick ECU software upgrade that will most likely put it up over 500 HP and 550 or closer to 600 lb/ft of torque for probably around $2,000. It looks like this new engine will take the place of the engine that goes into bimmers current cars like the 550i, 750Li, 650i, etc..

This is just more evidence that for sure Benz knows they have to quickly upgrade their 550 engine like all the rumors have said they would. 382 HP and 391 lb/ft of torque just won't do it now it seems. With direct injection and some ECU upgrades what do you guys think benz can get the power to? 430 HP? 440 HP? Torque will need to go up alot also.

This is also further evidence that bimmer knows that with a sofware upgrade their new twin-turbo V-8 will keep up with their M5/M6 for sure, so they have to install twin-turbo's on their V-10 for sure now. Audi has already done it, and AMG had better for sure have their twin-turbo 6.3 liter V-8 ready soon, too.

It only makes sense now that BMW will probably have an all-new direct injection twin-turbo V-12 (maybe 5.4 or 6.0 liters?) engine ready for their new upcoming 8 series, new Z9 (which will be the SL competitor), and most likely as a top of the line choice for the all-new 7 series coming out in a year or so. The ante keeps being upped, but that's good for us consumers though ...

Link to article and pics below:

http://www.autospies.com/news/Has-Th...-Market-24392/

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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 01:27 AM
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every bimmer is going to be a turbo........i guess it all started with the 335i.
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 06:07 AM
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every bimmer is going to be a turbo........i guess it all started with the 335i.
.........A year ago, I had an argument with toro4me regarding BMW going FI in their M cars. He said it will never happen. Looks all but certain now. here is the link to the previous discission.

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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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Isn't that the same BMW V-8 twin turbo set-up Bentley installed in the Arnage afew years ago?

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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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No the arnage had an old-school 6.75 liter 16-valve V-8 made in U.K.. This twin-turbo from BMW is a brand new design, with variable valve timing, light-weight construction, etc..
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The Arnage came with a BMW sourced twin-turbo V-8 (as well as the traditional 6.75L V-8).

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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
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The Arnage came with a BMW sourced twin-turbo V-8 (as well as the traditional 6.75L V-8).

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You are correct, but that was a turbocharged version of the old M62 4.4L V8 out of the 97-03 540i.

This new V8 looks to be a clean sheet design, with direct injection.

I can't wait to feel it in a 5 or 7 series. Finally a BMW alternative to the heretofore unrivaled MB forced induction engines!
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Well, now they have the small and midsize engines covered, I wonder what they will do with the 12. It probably will be FI, you can only go so far with NA. Knowing BMW, it will be insane. Hopefully it wil be powerful. And hopefully benz comes out with that new 4 valve V12 soon. Anybody know when thats suppoesed to happen? It will prob. be DI, like the V8. The 12s will have to be so powerful to stay ahead of the 8s. AMGs might have 750 hp factory!
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AutoCar Magazine just officially anounced the new 5 series will have it

AutoCar Magazine officially announced two weeks ago that BMW will in fact have the all new direct injection twin-turbo 4.4 liter 32 Valve V-8 in the all-new 5 series, so if that's the case then its a sure bet that they will in fact offer it also for the X5 and obviously as the base engine for the all-new 7 and 8 series and upcoming Z9 top of the line convertible.

Going FI for the new V12 for a top version for the new 7 series, 8 series, and Z9 is a logical decision.
Think about it guys, why would they have a twin-turbo 3.0 liter 6 cylinder, then a 4.4 liter twin-turbo 8 cylinder, and then just stick with a normally aspirated V-12 that would surely be soundly beaten silly by the chipped 4.4 liter tt V-8? They can't be that stupid, so a twin-turbo V-12 makes sense. Plus, we already know that they are gonna have a twin-turbo V-10 as an option also for the M-Cars, so there ya go....

Below is the whole article with the front cover of the magazine AutoCar the December 12th edition.
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A turbo V10 is far from a given at this point, all speculation especially for a M car.

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