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Old 04-12-2009, 10:54 PM
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Thoughts on a new CL65...

Hey guys, just have a few questions for you. I know that most here have had (or even do have) multiple AMGs. I will have the opportunity to pick up a off lease CL65 in the next few months. Was at the dealer 2 days ago and he has a customer that typically babies his cars and upgrades every 2 years. This guy evidently has an S63, a CL65 and an SL63. Uses them for fun and daily transport. Anyway, with the finance offers and great APR's I was thinking of picking up his used CL65 if it truly is in great shape. The problem is that there is virtually no personal info on the CL65 on the web. There are so few that even youtube doesn't have many videos. Long and short, would this be a good pickup, a reliable car, a good stablemate to my E63? Let me know, thanks. Of course I would have it certified to extend the warranty. Besides, someone else has already taken the brunt of the AMG depreciation (it's an '07).
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They didn't make a CL65 in 2007.
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I have a CL65 and I love it but mine is an 09..... Its a great car very fast but a slick look to it and everybody loves to look at it. So if you get it don't think why are people staring at me??? I love my CL65AMG its wonderful!!!

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They didn't make a CL65 in 2007.
You are right. MB did not make a MY 2007 CL65 (at least for the US)....but they started production earlier in 2007 and designated it as a 2008 MY.

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You might want to drive both a CL65 and CL63, right now the CL65's sell used for about $30K+ over the CL63. All the CL's are great cars and unless you are very familar with the CL model most people could not tell the difference between them in looks both inside and out. The difference comes with the performance. Check them out and decide where you will be driving and if that extra bang is worth the extra bucks.
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Originally Posted by MarkoCL65
They didn't make a CL65 in 2007.
It must then be a 2008 CL65 as he picked it up mid 2007. What mods are you running that your car is such a beast. One of the reasons I wanted a 65 is for the mod potential. My dealer will RennTech it and uphold the warranty. The E63 is and will be the daily driver. The 65 for cruising and schmoozing...... not to mention a little butt kicking
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Originally Posted by MercedesAMG
I have a CL65 and I love it but mine is an 09..... Its a great car very fast but a slick look to it and everybody loves to look at it. So if you get it don't think why are people staring at me??? I love my CL65AMG its wonderful!!!
Do you know what options came with the performance package. I believe he has that. Are the rims different? I know the LSD and the 186mph limit. Anything else. Tried searching on AMG's website but can't seem to find any info and MBUSA no longer allows you to build these AMG cars.
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Do you know what options came with the performance package. I believe he has that. Are the rims different? I know the LSD and the 186mph limit. Anything else. Tried searching on AMG's website but can't seem to find any info and MBUSA no longer allows you to build these AMG cars.
I don't believe that the LSD is available for the CL65, as it is with the other models. I actually do not see the performance package as an option for the CL65 in either 2008 or 2009. I believe the CL63 has the performance package. However, the LSD is not available with that package either. Here is a CL63 with the "performance package" (seems to be an aesthetics package) wheels:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false

These wheels actually came standard on the CL65 40th Anniversary special. That car was going for about $300K at release (only 40 were built and it had a $40K "Alubeam" paint job).

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http://autos.yahoo.com/2008_mercedes...coupe-options/

http://autos.yahoo.com/2008_mercedes...coupe-options/

http://www.automotive.com/2008/101/m...ges/index.html

http://www.automotive.com/2008/101/m...ing/index.html


You can see that they list the performance package for the CL63 but not for the CL65. However, yahoo even lists the 40th Anniversary Edition as an option for the CL65. I can't find anything that says that MB offered the performance package on the CL65. The specific car in question may have the "performance package" wheels as a dealer installed item.

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Originally Posted by BlkE63AMG
Hey guys, just have a few questions for you. I know that most here have had (or even do have) multiple AMGs. I will have the opportunity to pick up a off lease CL65 in the next few months. Was at the dealer 2 days ago and he has a customer that typically babies his cars and upgrades every 2 years. This guy evidently has an S63, a CL65 and an SL63. Uses them for fun and daily transport. Anyway, with the finance offers and great APR's I was thinking of picking up his used CL65 if it truly is in great shape. The problem is that there is virtually no personal info on the CL65 on the web. There are so few that even youtube doesn't have many videos. Long and short, would this be a good pickup, a reliable car, a good stablemate to my E63? Let me know, thanks. Of course I would have it certified to extend the warranty. Besides, someone else has already taken the brunt of the AMG depreciation (it's an '07).
I'll be driving a 08 CL65 Mystic White by the end of the week. I'll let you know what I think in combo with my CLS55 that I've been driving for 2 1/2 years. I cannot wait to see these two beast sitting side by side.
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
http://autos.yahoo.com/2008_mercedes...coupe-options/

http://autos.yahoo.com/2008_mercedes...coupe-options/

http://www.automotive.com/2008/101/m...ges/index.html

http://www.automotive.com/2008/101/m...ing/index.html


You can see that they list the performance package for the CL63 but not for the CL65. However, yahoo even lists the 40th Anniversary Edition as an option for the CL65. I can't find anything that says that MB offered the performance package on the CL65. The specific car in question may have the "performance package" wheels as a dealer installed item.

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Thanks for checking into that. Sure appreciate it. I guess the dealer misspoke. Will keep trying to get pics and stats etc. Will update you guys as I get more info. Everyone seems to think it is a great idea. Mind is made up, if all goes well, I will be posting pics on this board in a few months. Fingers crossed. Thanks guys.
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Originally Posted by HouTxCLS55
I'll be driving a 08 CL65 Mystic White by the end of the week. I'll let you know what I think in combo with my CLS55 that I've been driving for 2 1/2 years. I cannot wait to see these two beast sitting side by side.
Excellent. Let me know when you can. Love the pics in the other post. The ivory interior scares me tho. Would worry about keeping it clean. Beautiful though. Hey, have you guys ever thought of a sprint booster in a CL65? Have one in the E63 and I know guys have them in the CL600 and the 55's. Maybe the 65's don't need it with all that torque available down low. Just throwing it out there.
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Easy answer..get the CL 65 if it's in good shape...you will love it...63 doesn't compare when you jump on it...

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Originally Posted by BlkE63AMG
Excellent. Let me know when you can. Love the pics in the other post. The ivory interior scares me tho. Would worry about keeping it clean. Beautiful though. Hey, have you guys ever thought of a sprint booster in a CL65? Have one in the E63 and I know guys have them in the CL600 and the 55's. Maybe the 65's don't need it with all that torque available down low. Just throwing it out there.
Ivory is going to be a pain but this will be my weekend car. I might drive it twice a week and I'm sure half the time sitting on a towell.
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Are you guys talking about the latest shape CL65, I haven't seen a post yet
with a picture of the new car. Does the latest shape CL still have the 5 speed
auto? Just interested!
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Originally Posted by sound 8
Are you guys talking about the latest shape CL65, I haven't seen a post yet
with a picture of the new car. Does the latest shape CL still have the 5 speed
auto? Just interested!
Yes, I believe it is still the 5 speed. I've been told that the 65 engine is too much for the 7 speed to handle...?
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Yes, I believe it is still the 5 speed. I've been told that the 65 engine is too much for the 7 speed to handle...?
The running theory is that the 7-speed is not able to handle the gobbs of torque produced by the 65 engine. Evidently the 5-speed has been rock solid. I haven't driven one but that is what I have heard.
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My dealer tells me that the new 7 speed cannot handle the torque of the CL65. The 5 speed has proven to be trouble free and able to handle the torque without any problems. The 5 speed is a better gearbox.
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My dealer tells me that the new 7 speed cannot handle the torque of the CL65. The 5 speed has proven to be trouble free and able to handle the torque without any problems. The 5 speed is a better gearbox.
I wouldn't go that far... the 7 speed is a great tranny...especially the MCT version. Does the V12TT need a 7 speed with on-demand torque?...probably not.

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I wouldn't go that far... the 7 speed is a great tranny...especially the MCT version. Does the V12TT need a 7 speed with on-demand torque?...probably not.

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No it doesn't. I have been thinking, I believe the 63 only works in the SL.
The engine is great at 5500 revs where max torque and bhp are developed.
This is more like a sports car, I have driven a E63 and preferred my E55.
For sports saloons and coupes such as E,S,CLS,and CL you definitely
need a supercharged/turbo engine with lots of low down torque.
Do they scrape any more torque out of the 63 engine in the salon/sedan
and coupe models. The E63 certainly did not have the exhaust note of my SL63. Tom might know!!
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No it doesn't. I have been thinking, I believe the 63 only works in the SL.
The engine is great at 5500 revs where max torque and bhp are developed.
This is more like a sports car, I have driven a E63 and preferred my E55.
For sports saloons and coupes such as E,S,CLS,and CL you definitely
need a supercharged/turbo engine with lots of low down torque.
Do they scrape any more torque out of the 63 engine in the salon/sedan
and coupe models. The E63 certainly did not have the exhaust note of my SL63. Tom might know!!
Guess things are different across the pond but in the USA the top speed limit is 70 mph and the average speed is about 45-55 mph. I'm not saying that it isn't fun to have a lot of power on demand but some of these numbers are over kill. The new 5.5 liter engine is higher tech then the older single overhead cam engines and has all the power needed in normal driving. Now if you want to go really fast and have a great handling sports car for a good price buy a new Vette. For the cost of a new CL65 you can buy a new CL550 and a new ZO6 Vette and still have change coming back.
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Guess things are different across the pond but in the USA the top speed limit is 70 mph and the average speed is about 45-55 mph. I'm not saying that it isn't fun to have a lot of power on demand but some of these numbers are over kill. The new 5.5 liter engine is higher tech then the older single overhead cam engines and has all the power needed in normal driving. Now if you want to go really fast and have a great handling sports car for a good price buy a new Vette. For the cost of a new CL65 you can buy a new CL550 and a new ZO6 Vette and still have change coming back.
We also have a 70 mph limit! But you missed my point, speeds up to 70
especially in a heavy car ( not the car, but the people and luggage) need
a high torque engine( pulling power) I think.My SL63 is not so much fun
driving slowly in comfort mode whereas my S600 will cruise at 60 whilst feeling
smooth and punchy.What new 5.5 litre engine do you refer to, mine is a 6.3
or to be precise 6208cc.


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