CL55 AMG, CL65 AMG, CL63 AMG (C215, C216) 2000 - 2014 (Two Generations)

CL600 - CL65 engine difference

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Dec 31, 2012 | 06:23 PM
  #1  
Gerry_C's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
'13 E550 Cabriolet
CL600 - CL65 engine difference

I have seen a CL600 that was "upgraded" to CL65 for sale for a few weeks now. (http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=3) Knowing this was in all likelyhood a "badge" upgrade and nothing more, I did call the owner/seller.

What is the easiest way to spot the engine difference?

The owner does not know anything, the car is as he purchased it. He did indicate there might be a problem with the agc pump as he stated it would cost $1200 and he would adjust the price accordingly. On the off chance an earlier owner did put a real CL65 engine in I hate to pass this up.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2012 | 06:29 PM
  #2  
radride's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,559
Likes: 79
2015 Challenger Hellcat, 2023 Ram 3500, 2005 E55 Wagon, 2019 GLC63s
Well considering its a 2001, it won't have a twin turbo V12. If he truly swapped the AMG Twin Turbo V12 in it, one, it would of cost him a fortune and two, he wouldn't be selling if for this cheap. Take a picture of the engine bay and post it here.

R.K.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2012 | 06:38 PM
  #3  
OCKlasse's Avatar
MBworld Guru
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,345
Likes: 10
From: Irvine
04 CL55, 05 E500S4, 15 BMW i3 REx
A cosmetic clone (without the front and rear bumper or brakes). Nothing more, nothing less.

Last edited by OCKlasse; Dec 31, 2012 at 08:22 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2012 | 07:25 PM
  #4  
02cl55amg's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 741
Likes: 6
From: SIN CITY
CL65
Looks like a 2001 CL sport with 65 wheels. Big diff between a 01-02 v12 and 03-06 v12tt
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2012 | 08:29 PM
  #5  
Gerry_C's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
'13 E550 Cabriolet
Originally Posted by radride
Well considering its a 2001, it won't have a twin turbo V12. If he truly swapped the AMG Twin Turbo V12 in it, one, it would of cost him a fortune and two, he wouldn't be selling if for this cheap. Take a picture of the engine bay and post it here.

R.K.
I know the standard CL600 is very different. However, it could be possible to swap the engine and control electronics from a totaled CL65 (some must have been totaled by now). Changes (probably only cosmetic) were done by an earlier owner, so this guy really doesn't know anything. I will try to see it this next week as it is only 1/2 an hour away. I will take pictures of the engine bay if it does not stand out as being a stock 600. How hard is it to see the turbos and plumbing on this?
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2012 | 08:39 PM
  #6  
BlownV8's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 8,882
Likes: 1,212
From: In my garage
E55, GLS450, GL63, GLE350
Originally Posted by Gerry_C
He did indicate there might be a problem with the agc pump as he stated it would cost $1200 and he would adjust the price accordingly.
Run away. I don't think it is possible to have an ABC pump changed for $1,200. Could be a miriad of problems and may need a new pump, shocks, accumulators, hoses, ETC, ETC. You could easily reach $10k at the dealership depending on what is wrong.

Don't ever buy a 2000+ CL with ABC problems. You want one that has all of that replaced. Let someone else bear the expense of getting the ABC maintence up to date.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2012 | 09:22 PM
  #7  
radride's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,559
Likes: 79
2015 Challenger Hellcat, 2023 Ram 3500, 2005 E55 Wagon, 2019 GLC63s
Originally Posted by Gerry_C
I know the standard CL600 is very different. However, it could be possible to swap the engine and control electronics from a totaled CL65 (some must have been totaled by now). Changes (probably only cosmetic) were done by an earlier owner, so this guy really doesn't know anything. I will try to see it this next week as it is only 1/2 an hour away. I will take pictures of the engine bay if it does not stand out as being a stock 600. How hard is it to see the turbos and plumbing on this?

The turbo V12's had intercoolers on the tops of them. When you take the engine cover off you will see two big squares towards the fire wall; one on each side mounted to the motor. That's a dead give away.

R.K.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2013 | 12:06 AM
  #8  
Gerry_C's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
'13 E550 Cabriolet
Originally Posted by radride
The turbo V12's had intercoolers on the tops of them. When you take the engine cover off you will see two big squares towards the fire wall; one on each side mounted to the motor. That's a dead give away.

R.K.
Thanks, that is the info I was looking for.

Others have mentioned run away from suspension problems. I do understand that those problems can easily run into big bucks. A great system when it works but many possible problems and big sums of money to get right sometimes (especially from a dealer). I would only be interested if it had the AMG engine though.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:41 AM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE