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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 04:48 PM
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Pre-Save inactive after transporting car on trailer ?

not pulled any codes yet but i just transported my car on an open trailer for about 4 hrs in 10 degree weather and when i started it to unload and i get a pre-save inactive on the dash not the pre safe .
did a search here but have not found much about the pre SAVE inactive malfunction ?
what may cause this , could find nothing in the owners manual about it .

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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 06:34 PM
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no codes on DAS nothing in owners manual or command manual

ok car you win i give


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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:46 PM
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Stupid question, but did you turn pre safe off and back on thru the prompts on the dashboard.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NISMO240SSX
Stupid question, but did you turn pre safe off and back on thru the prompts on the dashboard.
i could have ? not sure , i know i used the R button to reset everything a couple of times but i never saw a pre-save or pre-safe setting .
so your saying there is a setting through the prompts ?

thanks for the reply this has been driving me nuts .

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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:59 PM
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Yes, i think it the prompt between amg and the service one where you can turn on/off the reverse cam, parking sensors etc . Ill get you some more details in a bit when i go to the car. Also is the pre safe icon on? Its to the left of the 0 on the speedo.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NISMO240SSX
Yes, i think it the prompt between amg and the service one where you can turn on/off the reverse cam, parking sensors etc . Ill get you some more details in a bit when i go to the car. Also is the pre safe icon on? Its to the left of the 0 on the speedo.
no no light
the message i am getting is pre-save not the pre safe .
that's whats getting me i see a lot of stuff here on the form about pre-safe but nothing on pre-save .

i run through the prompts today and see what i can find ?
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 02:31 PM
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Googling your problem points me to something to do with your transmission:

http://www.justanswer.com/mercedes/6...per-manua.html

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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 02:43 PM
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One of Two things (or both)

Your battery is weak.

You need your sbc reset/ calibrated or a speed sensor on one of the wheels is going bad.

Ok, so there are three things

My bet is the battery needs to be replaced.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 02:58 PM
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i don't think i have SBC ? i have not looked for the box behind headlight but a search here says i don't

Cars with SBC
Mercedes SL roadster (R230)
Mercedes E-Class sedan (W211) and Estate (S211) until mid 2006
Mercedes E-Class 4matic sedan (W211) and 4matic Estate (S211) until mid 2006
Mercedes SLR (C199)
Maybach 57 and 62 (W240)
Mercedes CLS coupe (C219) until mid 2006

when the idiot brought my car back i noticed he tied it down with chains over the front lower control arms so maybe he messed up a sensor ?

battery is good full charge would the aux battery trigger this ? or do i even have one ?
trans shifts fine in sport / manual and comfort
man there is a lot to learn on this car ! i REALLY apprciate all the help and replays you guys are giving me !
Kudos to you all .

Dave

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Originally Posted by Switta
i don't think i have SBC ? i have not looked for the box behind headlight but a search here says i don't

Cars with SBC
Mercedes SL roadster (R230)
Mercedes E-Class sedan (W211) and Estate (S211) until mid 2006
Mercedes E-Class 4matic sedan (W211) and 4matic Estate (S211) until mid 2006
Mercedes SLR (C199)
Maybach 57 and 62 (W240)
Mercedes CLS coupe (C219) until mid 2006

when the idiot brought my car back i noticed he tied it down with chains over the front lower control arms so maybe he messed up a sensor ?

battery is good full charge would the aux battery trigger this ? or do i even have one ?
trans shifts fine in sport / manual and comfort
man there is a lot to learn on this car ! i REALLY apprciate all the help and replays you guys are giving me !
Kudos to you all .

Dave

Regarding the battery, I got into an arguement on the forums. The CL has the main battery in the trunk and a "battery" the size of a pack of cigarettes in the passengers kick panel. If you looked at it, you would think its a module of some sorts. I asked the parts guy how often you should replace it, and he laughed at me and said never. Its only there to keep enough juice flowing to keep your memory settings for your stereo etc. It has nothing to do with the function of the car.

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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Switta
i don't think i have SBC ? i have not looked for the box behind headlight but a search here says i don't

Cars with SBC
Mercedes SL roadster (R230)
Mercedes E-Class sedan (W211) and Estate (S211) until mid 2006
Mercedes E-Class 4matic sedan (W211) and 4matic Estate (S211) until mid 2006
Mercedes SLR (C199)
Maybach 57 and 62 (W240)
Mercedes CLS coupe (C219) until mid 2006

when the idiot brought my car back i noticed he tied it down with chains over the front lower control arms so maybe he messed up a sensor ?

battery is good full charge would the aux battery trigger this ? or do i even have one ?
trans shifts fine in sport / manual and comfort
man there is a lot to learn on this car ! i REALLY apprciate all the help and replays you guys are giving me !
Kudos to you all .

Dave
ah, correct. your car does not have sbc.

in any case- your abs/esp module is out of whack or your battery is weak and hampers initiation of said system upon start.

i would definitely look at the front wheel sensors. if the tow managed to break something, it most likely would not be subtle and you will quickly see it.
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by alx
ah, correct. your car does not have sbc.

in any case- your abs/esp module is out of whack or your battery is weak and hampers initiation of said system upon start.

i would definitely look at the front wheel sensors. if the tow managed to break something, it most likely would not be subtle and you will quickly see it.
thanks alx , i did look to see if something got damaged and did not see anything .
i did go into the IC and changed some settings in RDK ( tire pressure control and indicator lamp for RDK ) think i will change them back and i will also check the battery and run a load test and see what it shows .

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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 02:04 PM
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Mercedeses eat batteries like candy. If you battery is not at 100% you will have problems like the one you describe.

Do not change values you don't understand. Goes without saying. Remember that star is a professional tool and it can do as much harm as good.
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 07:21 PM
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O ya I know how powerful the star is and am VERY careful with it . I was Leary changing what I did .
I would like to change the tpms to not present . I don't have the senders in my wheels and hate the warning all the Time.
I was told there are two places you need to change to not present . one in instrument cluster and one in central gateway .
The only thing I could find in the IC that related to anything was RDK tire pressure monitor and instrument light . I changed them to not present but sill have the warning and tire light ? I guess I should go in and change them back .

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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 05:13 PM
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well i replaced the battery pulled and cleaned all abs sensors checked all the wiring to them for any damage re synced the windows seats sunroof and steering . went back in to DAS and checked to see what i changed for the TPMS and it didn't change ? what i changed to NOT PRESENT was all back to PRESENT ?
still have the PRE-SAVE message ???
no codes on DAS everything on the car works fine , all shifting modes work fine trans shifts smooth through all gears .
I'm stumped ? not giving up yet there has to be some small thing causing this message ? it's killing me trying to figure it out !!!

Dave
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Read this it might help
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w220...p0748-car.html
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