Car at Speedriven :) More mods for the season
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What do you guys think about Exhaust tips? do them in black? I'm debating but probably going to do them in black to match the rest of the car.
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Nozzles question
[QUOTE=kamilclk430;6057641]Meth is purely used as a cooling agent
I have the Speedriven Meth Kit dual nozzles spraying into both intakes
Did they installed nozzles before turbos ? Guy from snowperformance recommened me to install 1 nozzle before thortlebody and after the intercoolers
I have the Speedriven Meth Kit dual nozzles spraying into both intakes
Did they installed nozzles before turbos ? Guy from snowperformance recommened me to install 1 nozzle before thortlebody and after the intercoolers
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I would not send methanol through the turbos. After the intercooler would be the most preferential. I'd be worried you would have some puddling if you sent in before the intercooler but I can see the logic in helping the intercoolers absorb more heat.
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Yes my nozzles are right before the Turbos for Meth. I will look into maybe re locating these for more performance.
I will look into that 
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After some time car finally went on the dyno today. We had a few hick ups with loosing boost but it was just a little leak and now car seems strong.
The number are from a Mustang Dyno, which is a low reading dyno. A lot of guys have dyno numbers off a dynojet which is about 10% higher than the Mustang. Car was with 100 oct and 2 runs were done with meth and 2 without.
1st run was with windshield solvent spraying (in case you did not know the windshield solvent does have methanol) this run was done in 3rd gear.
625RWTQ
533RWHP
2nd run was with the meth system turned off this was done also in 3rd gear
641RWTQ
528RWHP
3rd run was done in 4th gear with the meth system turned on
756RWTQ
527RWHP
Car was getting Hot after the runs I think a little bit more of tweaking needs to be done and a dyno tune to come shortly and this car will make some serious power just the way it sits. I'm happy how the numbers are now since they are on a low reading dyno and TQ in 4th gear pull is very amazing on a dyno jet it would be around 830RWTQ range.
Here are the pics of the graphs for you guys to look over
The number are from a Mustang Dyno, which is a low reading dyno. A lot of guys have dyno numbers off a dynojet which is about 10% higher than the Mustang. Car was with 100 oct and 2 runs were done with meth and 2 without.
1st run was with windshield solvent spraying (in case you did not know the windshield solvent does have methanol) this run was done in 3rd gear.
625RWTQ
533RWHP
2nd run was with the meth system turned off this was done also in 3rd gear
641RWTQ
528RWHP
3rd run was done in 4th gear with the meth system turned on
756RWTQ
527RWHP
Car was getting Hot after the runs I think a little bit more of tweaking needs to be done and a dyno tune to come shortly and this car will make some serious power just the way it sits. I'm happy how the numbers are now since they are on a low reading dyno and TQ in 4th gear pull is very amazing on a dyno jet it would be around 830RWTQ range.
Here are the pics of the graphs for you guys to look over
Again don't get caught up in imagining what it'll make on a Dynojet that should read 10% more than a properly set MustangDyno is pointless by itself let alone when MD is already setup to exceed DJ #s etc
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ya w/756-830 rwtq he better net 1.5x or lower 60' & sub 10.7x 1/4 etc either way good luck at track man..
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No offense intended, but I was kind of wondering myself how a car gains 100WTQ while the WHP remains the same. I'm likely just ignorant, but I'd think they'd gain proportionately. Can't wait to the see the new track times though.
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On load bearing dynos like Mustang or Dynodynamics it's a common error on operators input ie exact vehicle weight inc operator, gearing, etc etc if off it will set the hp slightly lower but make tq inordinately high..
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If there is no error, what do you think the extra 100+ WTQ will net Kamil in the 1/4? I think his prior best is 11.5 @ 120. Interesting thing is, my stock Dyno dynamics numbers match his pre-meth (3rd gear) numbers to the tee, and be both ran almost exacxtly the same in the 1/4, trap and ET.
With an extra 100WTQ, his CL should be in the 10's for sure.
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It technically could not. HP = (torque x RPM)/5252 You can check the math on the dyno to see if it is correct.
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If there is no error, what do you think the extra 100+ WTQ will net Kamil in the 1/4? I think his prior best is 11.5 @ 120. Interesting thing is, my stock Dyno dynamics numbers match his pre-meth (3rd gear) numbers to the tee, and be both ran almost exacxtly the same in the 1/4, trap and ET.
With an extra 100WTQ, his CL should be in the 10's for sure.
With an extra 100WTQ, his CL should be in the 10's for sure.
The correct 1 to 1 gear on our 5 speeds is 4th, and from his readings in 3rd to 4th rwtq gains vary between 115-131 @ wheels & impossible to gain that much as it's not due to meth & impossible a cl600 w/those mods to make an honest 756 tq at the wheels on MD let alone Dynojet.
Again its very common to have this error on loadbearing dynos & it screws the tq reading extremely higher.. Some guys add weight to trunk or even get in trunk as it may have traction problems, I've seen well known members do this reporting even more rediculously high rwtq thats just a simple error & means nada..
To put it into even more perspective SGC's cl65 w/Black Series turbos, carbon ceramic brakes off a Ferrari & every bolton in the book only made 811 rwtq on a higher
reading dynojet when it ran 10.2x at 138 mph Kamil thinks the Mustangdyno he ran on is super low reading per his post, & figures his rwtq would read 830 on a Dynojet so his cl600 on stock turbos etc etc is making 20 odd MORE rwtq than SGC's rig is a bit of a stretch lol..
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The track will tell whats really going on hopefully sometime this week. I have been crazy busy running around to get the wedding stuff handled, so if there is a free 2-3 hours after work this week it will be used to go and see what this thing can really do now.
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It is good that you are doing all of this crazy stuff with your car prior to your wedding because you are setting excellent precedent. When your wife starts *****ing in a few years that you are car crazy and wasting all of this money on cars...you can just point her to this thread! Pre-existing condition! 
