VividRacing

Right!?! They are nice for the price but it's still a Hyundai.....

Just watched the video, I'm excited to hear what it sounds like with a full exhaust and external wastegate dump muahahaha

propain

I was thinking about getting it and debadging it! LOL


At that amount of boost the dump should be pretty loud.

Mabuhay

This is where they lose me also.... it's really a FWD with some rear wheel assist of 'up to 50%' torque. I.e. 100/0 up to 50/50. They did this for the MPG. But the proof is in the pudding and I can't wait to hear some independent test drive results from this AWD drivetrain. My Infiniti JX has the same FWD with up to 50% to the wheels and it sucks compared to my Audi's AWD system or even my C4S which is 5/95 up to 40/60 which is awesome.

moosejaw

The CLA45 motor wont be built in Affalterbach, but in a regular Mercedes factory a few hours away. The body of the CLA will be made in Hungary ala the Boxster/Cayman.
CLA 250 is approx. 3300 lbs which is about 150 pounds less than a C32. I think we will will still see mid 4 sec 0-60 and high 12 sec passes with trap times of 110 mph

Viper98912

No way, you're closer to 5.0 and mid-high 13's.

InTheBenz0

lol what?

MB already released it does 0-60 in 4.5 (that's MB time) typically they are conservative across the brand.

I believe the car will do 1/4 in 12.7-12.8 1/4 mile stock with that 0-60 and 4matic.

Viper98912

If MB has said that, then I'm surprised. The hp/liter numbers are impressive, but I don't believe them to be 4's and 12's impressive...

InTheBenz0

yessir, check out the press release thread

(here is excerpt)

The All-New 2014 Mercedes-Benz CLA45 AMG Press Information

'Driving Performance' at its Best

March 27, 2013

MONTVALE, NJ – Mercedes-Benz AMG will celebrate its world debut of the
2014 model year CLA45 AMG at the New York International Auto Show. The
four-door coupe follows in the design footsteps of the successful CLS63
AMG, the trendsetter for four-door high-performance coupes. With a
maximum power output of 355 hp and a peak torque of 332 lb.-ft., the 2014
CLA45 AMG is the world's most powerful four-cylinder engine built in
series production. The performance-oriented AMG 4MATIC all-wheel drive
on the CLA45 AMG sets new standards in the competitive segment as well.
The 2014 CLA45 AMG goes on sale in the U.S. this November.

Ola Källenius, CEO of Mercedes-AMG GmbH: "In the CLA45 AMG,
Mercedes-AMG presents a unique and absolutely desirable automobile with
the characteristic AMG genes. The high-tech package with the world's most
powerful four-cylinder production engine and performance-oriented AMG
4MATIC all-wheel drive stands for 'Driving Performance' at its best."
Mercedes-Benz AMG establishes a new segment with the exciting new four-door performance coupe CLA45 AMG -

Key figures at a glance:

Mercedes-Benz CLA45 AMG
Displacement 1,991 cc
Bore x stroke 83.0 x 92.0 mm
Compression ratio 8.6 : 1
Rated power output (U.S.) 355 hp at 6,000 rpm
Peak torque (U.S.) 332 lb.-ft. at 2,250-5,000 rpm
Engine weight (dry) 326 lbs.
Maximum engine speed 6,700 rpm
Power density 178 hp per liter
Maximum boost pressure 26.1 psi
Acceleration 0-60 mph km/h 4.5s

Viper98912

Hmm...

bmoney12

I agree. I think it'll at least be that quick and depending on weight it may drop into low-mid 12s.

propain

The 0-60 will most likely stick at 4.5. Decent torque and AWD with a fast tranny will get it there.


The 1/4 mile predictions however I disagree and are pretty far off in my opinion. I think you would be lucky to post a high 12.

Take the 2012 STI as an example.

305HP
3300LB's
0-60 in 4.7
1/4 mile 13.2-13.5 @ 98-101


The CLA45 will not weight less than 3300lb's. It has 55 more HP but how much more weight? It will shift better so you gain some there. Low to mid 12 you guys are dreaming unless it weights 2800lb's.

My prediction is 0-60 in 4.5 on a good day. 1/4 12.95@105.

bmoney12

Well an Audi TTRS(DSG)weighs in the 3300lbs range with 335hp and did a 3.6 to 60 and 12.1 1/4 mile so if it weighs anywhere near that then I could see it being possible. My 2010 Audi S4 would do a 4.5 to 60 and upper 12s 1/4 mile and weighed 4000lbs with similar HP and TQ so you'd think the CLA would be much lighter and faster. The car won't be able to compete with the next gen Audi RS3 if it's a 13 sec car so if that's the case then AMG missed the mark. It's all arm chair racing at this point! I guess time will tell.

propain

The TTRS is much more car. 2.5L 5 cylinder vs a 2.0L 4 cylinder. Peak torque at 1625RPM for the TT. 2250 for the MB.

I wish the US Audi model came with the S Tronic. Sure does help the numbers.

The CLA45 wont be 3300lb's either. Probably more like 3500+


Bench racing is fun and time will tell but I think in its stock form the numbers wont be close to what many think. If it is it would be the bargain of the century.

bmoney12

Same...I'd be driving one now. I had a TTS with a APR tune for a year or so and loved it cept for the terrible turbo lag. From the below first ride it sounds like the lag might not be too bad in the CLA45.

http://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz...oad-test1.html

VividRacing

The fact that it's running over 2 bar of boost pressure to make 350 hp tells us MB is using a tiny little turbo to get the least amount of lag possible! It should feel really nice from the factory but I'm looking forward to some lag and big HP numbers

AMGAffalterbach

>Sexy entry level car
>Beautiful, youthful design
>350+ HP from a 4-Cylinder. Our boys over at AMG have done it again

Newzchspy

I think one of the mags already drove one and got a 4.5 0-60 out of it. That would make for a solid 12.5 second car at 110-113 (most likely). For $55 K , what more could you want. Gorgeous shape, AWD and 35 MPG?? BTW, the CD on the car is alleged to be the lowest ever for a production vehicle at .022??

I think that AMG is gunning for the BMW 4 bangers that are now hitting the street.

Mabuhay

It might be fast 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile. But how does it handle? With it being a predominantly FRONT WHEEL DRIVE CAR (with UP TO 50% send to the rear WHEN it needs it), this has the makings of a glorified VW GTI (not knocking the GTI since it's a great car for what it is.). For an AMG, I am expecting a lot. ANY company can slap a turbo on a car and make it go fast straight. With AMG's expertise, I am expecting a whole lot more than this. The proof is in the pudding and I can't wait to drive it to see for myself.

InTheBenz0

New Mexico advertisement video:

AMGAffalterbach

Important note that you haven't driven it yet as you said, so I am curious as well. But this is a lot like BMW X-Drive where unlike 4-Matic and Quattro which are fixed all-wheel-drive systems, it only delegates power to the front wheels (in this case the rear wheels) when slippage occurs. But the short wheel base, built off the A-Class frame is of huge benefit I'm sure, and the 4-Matic AMG tuning will be different from the stock CLA I believe.

propain

Hard to extrapolate 1/4 mile times from only 0-60 data. If that were the case the wrx sti would be a mid 12 stock and its not.

Time will tell. 12.9 at best is my bet.

bmoney12

My Audi TTS had the Haldex AWD system similar to the CLA45. A torsen AWD system is definitely much better especially in the snow. That being said the TTS handled really well and had no trouble putting the power down so I guess it served its purpose!

AMGAffalterbach

Need to brush up on my AWD system knowledge for sure... but I have confidence that the CLA45 will handle like an AMG, I doubt most drivers will notice the difference unless they are 1) very experienced 2) come from a higher end AMG. For most entry-level AMG buyers I think it will be a step up regardless.

Mabuhay

At a "winter driving school", a VW GTI R32 had a Haldex system that performed exactly the same way as the video...to the major disappointment of the owner (who also had an R8). Notice how it was very slow to engage the rear wheels. No offense to the TTS, but I don't see "performance" here.

AMGAffalterbach

But the CLA isn't a high end "performance" car like the mountains of unbelievable power from most AMGs. I would consider it closer to a good compromise between a short wheel-base sports car and a performance car.