How many are getting the CLA 2014
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Sorry to sidetrack the forum, everybody. Let's get back to the discussion at hand.
I would buy the CLA for design more than anything. I don't see why they couldn't put that type of aesthetics into our W204. I feel like my car will look so dated once the new E-class and CLA's are out on the road.
I would buy the CLA for design more than anything. I don't see why they couldn't put that type of aesthetics into our W204. I feel like my car will look so dated once the new E-class and CLA's are out on the road.
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Sorry to sidetrack the forum, everybody. Let's get back to the discussion at hand.
I would buy the CLA for design more than anything. I don't see why they couldn't put that type of aesthetics into our W204. I feel like my car will look so dated once the new E-class and CLA's are out on the road.
I would buy the CLA for design more than anything. I don't see why they couldn't put that type of aesthetics into our W204. I feel like my car will look so dated once the new E-class and CLA's are out on the road.
I think w204 will look very classic once the new e and c hit the road... The new e and c is so round that it looks girly
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I don't think he was talking about the AMG but if he was, then I'm gonna go crawl back in my corner now...
I used to love the 335i design, more than my C-class even, but as soon as the 2013's hit the market, I couldn't help but think that the design looked dated (classic nonetheless) which is what I'm afraid will happen to mine. I'm just a materialistic guy, I suppose.
I used to love the 335i design, more than my C-class even, but as soon as the 2013's hit the market, I couldn't help but think that the design looked dated (classic nonetheless) which is what I'm afraid will happen to mine. I'm just a materialistic guy, I suppose.
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I expect them to be available by Oct 2013 in the USA. Unfortunately I don't think the BMW 2 series Gran Coupe or A3 Sedan will be available then to compare.
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The CLA is based on a FWD platform and will initially be offered as FWD only. In about 6-12 months an AWD version will be released and the car mags also believe the AMG version will be AWD. So it is going to be a wait for the AWD.
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And even then, it'll be a predominantly FWD arrangement. The power will only be pushed to the rear axle when the front starts losing traction, kind of like the Haldex system used on transverse VW/Audi cars.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/mercedes...ic-system.html
Still, better than a plain FWD one, and it'll help deliver better MPG for sure (compared to permanent AWD, like in the C-class). Just not the same driving dynamics as a rear-biased drive system provides.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/mercedes...ic-system.html
Still, better than a plain FWD one, and it'll help deliver better MPG for sure (compared to permanent AWD, like in the C-class). Just not the same driving dynamics as a rear-biased drive system provides.
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There may be nomenclature confusion coming, but these guys (and a bunch of other links on Google like them) seem to be a reliable early authority....
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=427000
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=427000
I HAVE heard they're planning a fwd sedan that'll probably carry the 1 series badge that will slot below the current 1 series (as it's renamed 2 series). Somehow I doubt BMW will make an M1 though. I'd say we'll see a "sport-tuned" 135i M-Sport, but no M1.
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I would doubt that. The new NA spec 1 series is already well into development and it's actually going to be called the 2 series and be rwd as it's based on the new euro 1 series hatch. I've not seen any mention of a sedan for the next generation (2014) of this car. The 2 series coupe will have an M variant called M2.
I HAVE heard they're planning a fwd sedan that'll probably carry the 1 series badge that will slot below the current 1 series (as it's renamed 2 series). Somehow I doubt BMW will make an M1 though. I'd say we'll see a "sport-tuned" 135i M-Sport, but no M1.
I HAVE heard they're planning a fwd sedan that'll probably carry the 1 series badge that will slot below the current 1 series (as it's renamed 2 series). Somehow I doubt BMW will make an M1 though. I'd say we'll see a "sport-tuned" 135i M-Sport, but no M1.
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The evidence for a new rwd 1 series sedan and M1 is pretty strong if you google around and read the multiple articles and see camo photos from Europe. The 2 will be the Coupe and Gran Coupe version of the 1, just as the 4 is the coupe and Gran Coupe versions of the 3.
I think it's unlikely BMW will give a RWD sedan and a FWD city car the same name.
If there is a sedan version of the new 2 series, I'd expect it to be the gran coupe only which will retain the 2 series name.
We'll have to wait and see.
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I'm still skeptical. There's already a confirmed 1 series on the way and it's a FWD hatchback based on next generation Mini Cooper architecture. Spy shots all over the web and a concept version released a while back. Google 1 Series GT.
I think it's unlikely BMW will give a RWD sedan and a FWD city car the same name.
If there is a sedan version of the new 2 series, I'd expect it to be the gran coupe only which will retain the 2 series name.
We'll have to wait and see.
I think it's unlikely BMW will give a RWD sedan and a FWD city car the same name.
If there is a sedan version of the new 2 series, I'd expect it to be the gran coupe only which will retain the 2 series name.
We'll have to wait and see.
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0 to 60 in 6.7 seconds is more than good enough. This dumb world of ours is going to have to stop thinking that more cubic inches = good.
We need decent performance from frugal, fun to drive cars & that's where it is going.
The new E Class sans a pair of lights looks very nice!
We need decent performance from frugal, fun to drive cars & that's where it is going.
The new E Class sans a pair of lights looks very nice!
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No need for AWD and will definitely not get FWD, so it's good that neither me nor my wife have any needs to get a new car anytime soon.
Well..., maybe in the next year or so when there are more W212s in the ~$25K range, my wife will bite, but that's about it. CLA? Definitely not.
Well..., maybe in the next year or so when there are more W212s in the ~$25K range, my wife will bite, but that's about it. CLA? Definitely not.
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I certainly know where you are coming from but I do think that capacity is more of an American thing.A colleague of mine's kid comes & borrows tools from time to time. "till now he has had a Ford Focus ST 5 Cylinder. A little car that always put a smile on my face. Well he arrived the other day with the new ST 4 cylinder Turbo Ecoboost in eye searing, bright metallic orange "Tangerine Scream". I took it for a thrash through the pass behind where I live (something like what you guys would call a canyon run). Ford has done wonders with the chassis & the engine just loves to be revved. Sounds brilliant too. I never thought a 4 banger could sound as good as the NA 5 banger but it does. A really fun little car. I had to buy Alfa's (of which I had 7) in my youth to have that sort of fun.
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Yes, the ST has had a wonderful reception here too, considered very much the equal of VW GTI. The trend to smaller is happening as the technology makes it less painful. But, you're correct, we have a long history with "bigger is better" (probably goes back to musket size in the Revolutionary War!) and I don't think that will ever completely disappear.
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Regarding the CLA, the more I look into it the more I like it. It's not supposed to be a rwd premium sedan, nor is it supposed to appeal to Mercedes' current customers. It is what it is; a stylish and modern sporty sedan aimed at young buyers. It's Mercedes' take on the VW GLI/Acura TSX crowd. I think it will be a big hit assuming they aren't all spec'd to $40k when they hit dealer lots.
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