midasmike

o.k. benzo!! here's your ip address. let's see you do your magic and track this guy down.

i'd be glad to drive to the oc and meet up with anyone who would like to go see this guy and recover our money.

i'm in santa cruz, ca. anyone else in the bay area who wants to join me, let me know.

itsmeek

you can't track him down anymore then that. in order to do so you need a court order. i don't care what anyone says about being able to do so. only other way is to hack into his box and get personal information. which you should already have from paypal. ultimate whitepages anyone?

Benz-O-Rama

You're correct. Given his IP address, you can track him down to a region of the country, which is easy. But, what you can do, is file an internet theft/fraud case with the local P.D. in his region. They inturn can contact his ISP (which we know) and they should be able to track his IP address down to an account. That account should have a name and billing address associated with it. The only possible problem is if his ISP uses dynamic IP addressing, which most DSL providers do, unless he's paying extra for a static IP. But, if we supply the IP address and the date of his post, hopefully the ISP keeps logs of who had that IP at that time.

I work for an ISP and we are required by law to keep track of IP's and who has them for cases such as this as well as child **** cases etc. The ISP I work for assigns mostly static IPs so that makes life easier.

I just need to decide if I want to spearhead this campaign. It appears that Paypal is going to refund my money so that definately lessens the sting a bit. But, if they don't, you can bet I'll go after this guy. I should do it on general principle but you know how things go.

We'll see...

itsmeek

in that case...contact me, i can get into his box.

unlukky

Elevated mine to an open dispute on paypal too.

Moderators: I believe it's time to at least ban him.

, John

crazyfox

story is getting interesting, i always hate those low life scammers! i mean like, they should get a life! cheating from other ppl won't get anything especially in this century, they will only gain hates and warrants! beat him to the ground! bury him alive! geez i just hate when it happen!

Clk&Slk

Dream on because you pretty much pay for the items privately. Another words, if the items/parts you bought does not have an Ebay bid # then they considered a private transaction and Ebay won't help you.

midasmike

he's not getting help from ebay but from paypal. i paid with a c/c thru paypal and expect to get my $ back also.

unlukky

Guess that about sums it up... Oh wait:

dutnguye

One thing about paypal is that it's always better to pay using credit card rather than just straight transfering from bank account. if anything, you can always call your cc company and do a reverse and let your cc company deal with paypal. This way, you are more guaranteed to get your money back. If you file a dispute with paypal and even if paypal said you won your case but the seller has withdraw all the money out already, then you are basically out of luck.

Goood luck to y'all and catch this scammer

dsc

I hope you guys get justice, guys like this deserve old school re-payment. Good luck!

midasmike

hey benzo, have you contacted itsmeek yet? if he can get the guys address were in business. let'sw jump on this now!!!

tgood

If anyone has his first and last name, I can provide his postal address..

Benz-O-Rama

How about first initial and last name?

R. Gua

ZedStyle

in some other forums, if you have less than 50 posts and start a thread in the for sale forums, it puts a 'buyer beware' tag on the title of the thread...

MB_Vclass

Just saw this for the first time. This smelled of scam as I read the original post. An intern that works for Free is giving the boss a $200 gift? I may have beleived it if the boss gave the intern $200 in giftcards. And the intern turned around to sell them to make some cash.

Benz-O-Rama

Hindsight is always 20/20, isn't it?

tgood

I got nothing with Gua, possibly short for a longer last name?

Dan Wang

First name is Evan according to this post.

https://mbworld.org/forums/s55-amg-s65-amg-s63-amg-w220-w221/195757-new-here-few-q-s-about-63-a.html

Again he could be BS'ing.

unlukky

Well, here's my sad ending to a sad tale:

Dear John,

We have concluded our investigation into the following case:

Case ID: PP-292-248-603
Transaction Date: Jun 1, 2007
Transaction Amount: -$70.00 USD
Seller's Email: jetblackm5@gmail.com
Seller's Name: R Gua

After careful review, we have determined that the seller is at fault
but regret to inform you that we were unable to recover any funds from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, recovery of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.

We appreciate your business and apologize for any inconvenience this
situation may have caused.

Please know that we will make our best effort to recover the funds in question if they become available in the seller's account in the future and will take appropriate action against the seller. Such action may include issuing a warning, a temporary restriction, or terminating the account. Keep in mind that PayPal uses a number of factors to determine when to take action, including member complaints. Due to privacy laws, we cannot discuss the details of any action taken.

We hope you understand our policy and that it assures you that you are safe
using PayPal.

To ensure that future transactions proceed smoothly, we recommend that
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I figured as much. Lesson learned. My paypal account will now be linked to my credit card instead of my checking that way at least I can possibly get resolution through the credit card.

I hope that the moderators can see their way clear to ban him now.

-John

Air Marshall Eldritch

He was banned a couple of weeks ago. Not much else we can do.

z168

Ive followed a thread like this on another forum. To everyone else who was scammed, please make sure to call your local PD. No matter how small an amount. Everything adds up. And if more people have been scammed and more people have reported, the feds will step in.

Your reports might be the last straw to finally open a case. And good learning to never use your bank account to pay thru paypal. Always use a credit card. Infact next time this happens, forget paypal. Just call your credit card company and dispute the charge - they will take it from there.